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am back - spliting up sucks - We would not play with either of the couple if they were divorced. We became swingers so we can play as a couple with another couple. We don't entertain single male or female for the reason we do not want one of us to be playing while the other watches. We would still be "vanilla" with both if they are still in the lifestyle but would treat them like all other singles in the lifestyle when it comes to playtime.
YOLO Cruise April 26 2009 - swingers cruise - We're going as well... should be a fun time!
Can you be in love AND swing? If so, tell us how! - - The only way any relationship works is mutual respect/love/caring/communication. It doesn't matter if it's a marriage, LTR, or any other possible configuration. As proof I would submit that 60+ to 70+ percentage of marriages, both first and second, fail in the "normal" world. Also in poles taken, 60 to 70% of all married people or people in relationships have had relationships outside of marriage without their partner's knowledge.....i.e., "CHEATING". Swingers can hardly cheat, although it sometimes happens... Divorce in the swinging community is about one quarter of that in the "normal" community. I would submit that the reason for this is
a. the partners respect and love and trust each other as no other group does.
b. the need or want to cheat is virtually eliminated...
c. communication needed for the trust and the ability to work thru hard relationship problems is in place and working well
d. RESPECT for each other as individuals is greatly enhanced. Jealousy is part fear and part possessivness... Fear of loosing, fear that someone is better, fear that they are inadequate.. and many more fears are basiclly absent. And possessivness is not possible if you and your wife or SO are sharing yourself with others.
One thing about swinging.... If your relationship is good, communications are good and your sex life is good .....Swinging might very well work for you, as a couple. If there are any problems, fix them first or stay out of swinging... A good relationship will generall be enhanced by swinging. A relationship with problems will generally magnify problems introduce problems and ultimately cause devistation in that relationship.
You life coach has their head where the sun doesn't shine...and knows not of what he spake...
Amen
Stabbing at swingers party? - - SCAREY!!!!!
50 shades - - Hire a boy scout for the night to teach you some knots. He could even earn a merit badge out of it. It's win win. And they say swingers don't do anything good for the community.
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=XTRAINERBLK]DP & Airtight...yes. DVP..hell no. Just dont want to touch another guy's dick.[/quote]
I'm 100% straight but....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi7gwX7rjOw
Professionals - - Some of our best friends work in retail and construction trades. Some are "professionals." But it IS relevant to how we interract and what everyone's expectations and comfort levels are.
If we were construction workers or farmers (for example), we wouldn't give a rat's ass who knew we were swingers. But our livelihoods could and would be dramatically impacted if it became common knowledge that we are swingers. This means a few things are done differently than they would be otherwise:
1. No public face pics.
2. No public names or detailed descriptions.
3. "You show us yours...we'll show you ours" policy with locals.
4. 99.9% "no locals" play policy.
5. When we do entertain locally, it must be discreet. If we go to a public place, there is no cross-couple PDA.
If it were not for our status in the community as "professionals" being a matter of eating and living indoors for us, we wouldn' have ANY of these guidelines. We know couples who have met couples publicly who are NOT "professionals" who simply could not respect their boundaries and risked their reputations (thus livelihoods) with inappropriate behavior even after being asked not to. It freaking happens! And it is one of the gravest forms of disrespect/disregard for someone to do this. You think I'm gonna walk into the convenience store where your wife works and stick my tongue down her throat in front of her boss? NOT! And it's the same thing for us when couples disrespect our discretion boundaries. It could force us into bankruptcy.
If you have a problem with that and think we're snobs because of it, screw you! Please don't contact us. :@
Rather than say all that in a profile, we tend to just play nice and say "we're an attractive professional couple..." ;)
Okay shitheads. What about relationships??? - - [quote=HELLO_KITTY12984]Its all about personal preference. Not a required "line" we are all required to have. We respect people's varying preferences and the way they like to play. Doesn't mean anybody has more or less respect due to that particular factor.[/quote]I totally agree Kitty. You've always been a wise and good yummy friend! Is it horrible that we don't wanna play if we don't have some kind of "emotional" or "common" bond with the people we meet? It's not just a "physical" game for us...it's a trust and commonality, and even a compatibility issue. We aren't very good at this whole "swinging" thing if you wanna "fuck me and forget me". We've only played 3 times in almost 4 years. Are we swingers, experimental, or just frigid??? We play with girls a lot, but it's a whole new world when we wanna jump into a 2X2.
Cruise - pricing - You guys are really bitching about paying $2000 for two people for a 7 day lifestyle takeover cruise? I heard Utah people were cheap but come on. Let's break that down per day... $285... per couple... per day... We've been many places that aren't nearly as nice as being on a cruise with 2100 swingers and paid a lot more than that for just hotel rooms. Throw in car rental and food and you're out even more.
So what if you're paying $600 more than what they charge for a regular cruise... you don't have to worry about children and you're around people you can actually have fun with. Sounds like the extra money is worth it to me. And have you ever been on ANY vacation when you fly? Add in airfare, liquor, tips and gratuities as well. You're not getting those things free on most other vacations anyways.
Did you go to SwingFest? The rooms there were $300 a night! So if you can't afford this cruise, don't knock the people who put it together, we've been waiting for something like this for a long time and they deserve to make a bit of money off this because I'm sure it wasn't easy.
And you're probably the ones who bitch about there never being any events or parties for lifestylers, then when someone puts one together, you bitch about it because they make a dollar for their efforts.
We'll be on the cruise and we'll be glad to see those who aren't cheap on there with us.
Craigslist Personals closed now what... - Craigslist Personals closed now what... - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET][quote=EVILDOERS]It's a PLOT! Big Swinging has lobbied our lawmakers to take down CL personals so they can charge whatever they want just so poor swingers can get laid. They can HAVE my swinging when they pry my cold dead cock...er...uh...nevermind. [em]Emo_9[/em] [/quote]
Damned dick control lobby. If you try and take free booty calls away from single men, then only single men will post free booty calls. Wait, does that make sense?
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Dick control means TWO hands on my cock when it fires!
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