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can we swing and still not be in sin ? - - For what it's worth here is my 2 cents on the subject. I agree with Don on what he said earlier in this thread. The entire concept of sin was created by the religious leaders as a form of control. Every organized religion serves 3 primary purposes; 1) to explain the why's and how's of creation, 2) to give a foundation of how to live, 3) to give comfort about death. From the beginning of time religious leaders have used the power of religion as a means of controlling the masses to do what the leaders wanted or at least thought was best. Judao-Christian and Islamic religions went a step farther and created the concept of sin as a method of control. They created a list of commandments and declared that to violate these was to be in sin. Some sins were of greater import than others but it all equalled to the same thing, commit too many or even one of the wrong ones and you would be barred from from enjoyment and peace offered in the afterlife. So to answer the original question here, Can you swing and not be in Sin? Absolutely you can. Sin cannot exist seperate of heavily regulated and controlled organized religion. Since Religion itself is a fabrication of man, then so Sin is also a fabrication. I don't know too many swingers that particularly care for anyone else telling them what to do, how to do it, or whom they can do it with, regardless of the area of their life. Especially when it comes to their sex life.

Can REAL FRIENDSHIPS in the Lifestyle TRULY exist? - More than just meeting and having fun - We believe you can have swinger friends as \"real\" friends. We have several couples that we consider to be our real friends. A couple of them, we have been to their house and they have been to our with both of our kids around and did as any other \"vertical\" couples would be. One couple especially, we\'ve been to their house with our kids and their kids were home on many occasions for a pool party, for labor day, for even their oldest\'s graduation, gone to a comedy club with other swingers as a group and just to get together and hang out. They have helped us move our belongings from house to house when we moved across town. We keep in touch alot even if its through a IM\'s on a messenger. The ones we consider friends are the people that want to be friends in and out of the bedroom. And we seem to pull it off with the right people that way. Just have to find the right combinations. Plus it seems the area we live in, we have a great community of swingers, so it makes it easier to be friends in/out of the bedroom. Jerry and Jen

Why swingers are happier. - - Damn - I have seen some great screaming smiles - and I know it makes me happier :-D

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - She works on the basis that if one cock is good, two are better. But only if she can have a pussy to lick too.

The Vent part II - Secrecy - I once heard it put *I dont grow potatos where I get my meat*, I prefer to say *I dont play in my own backyard*. I know... I'm just one of *those* single men. You know, it doesnt sound like you give your *vanilla* friends much credit. You assume *they* would not enjoy a local *off premise* swingers club. Have you ever sat your vanilla friends down and talk to them (feel them out so to speak), to see if they are looking for ways to *spice* up their relationship? I've taken many *vanilla* women to the local swinger clubs. Ok, so some wont go back, but others are like *wow, that was fun!! I'm not into swinging and swapping, but these people are great!* Here in the Dallas / Ft Worth area, the lifestyle is HOT and happening! There are at least 7 off premise clubs, and as many on premise clubs. Plus many swingers in the area prefer going to the *vanilla* clubs to pick up men, women, and other couples. In MHO, IF, and I say IF, you go to a swinger club hoping/looking/expecting to pick up someone, I feel you've gone for the wrong reason. Go to have fun, meet new people, network, and IF you find someone at the club you enjoy being with, then I'm sure *as they say here in Texas* ya'll are going to have some swapping fun.... And yes, I have been part of a couple, with a few different women. Why am I not still a couple with any of them? They seem to start really getting into the lifestyle, and then they realize they're having too much fun, and scare themselves out of it. Oh yeah, and I'm the asshole single male, the most unwanted animal in the lifestyle. lol

Lifestyle Questions by newcomer couple - - I WANTED TO WELCUM U TO THE SWINGERS LIFE STYLE . AND I HOPE U GET TO EXPLORE AND MEET LOTS OF NEW FRIENDS AND U HAVE LOTS OF FUN .I PULLED UP YOUR PROFILE AND IT SAYS FULL SWAP . WHICH IS GOING TO GIVE COUPLES THE WRONG IDEA . AND THERE IS ALOT OF COUPLES LOOKING JUST FOR GIRL ON GIRL ACTION . AND SOME COUPLES ARE FREE TO EXPLORE ALONE SO I WOULDNT JUST RULE OUT ALL COUPLES . I WOULD LOOK ON DIFFERENT SITES AND SEE IF U CAN FIND THAT SINGLE FEMALE EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR . OR TRY A ALL GIRLS WEBSITE . BUT THEN THEY MIGHT NOT WANT TO PLAY WITH THE HUBBY .GOING TO PARTIES AND CLUBS IS THE BEST WAY TO FIND MORE PEOPLE . AT THE CLUBS THERE IS ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF PEOPLE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS . AND THE MORE PEOPLE U KNOW THE BETTER YOUR CHANCES ARE TO FIND WHAT U ARE LOOKING FOR . CAUSE EVEN IF U CANT FIND THE ONE AT THE CLUB THEN AT LEAST THEY MIGHT KNOW A FRIEND FOR YA .. WE GO TO PLEASURE PALACE ON SAT NIGHTS . THERE IS ALWAYS ALOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS . EVEN THOUGH THE SINGLE FEMALE IS HARD TO FIND IN THE LIFE STYLE WE DO SEE SOME THERE . OUR CLUB HAS STRICK RULES ABOUT HOW PEOPLE BEHAVE . SO EVEN IF U JUST WANTED TO COME AND HANG OUT AND MEET NEW FRIENDS OR DO YOUR OWN THING . THERE IS ALOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT ALSO THERE . NORMALLY THE BIG PARTIES BRING IN ABOUT 600-700 PEOPLE SO IAM SURE U CAN MAKE SOME NEW FRIENDS . WE ARE DOING A PHOTO SHOOT WITH FIFI THIS SAT NIGHT . AND THERE IS GOING TO BE ALOT OF SWINGERS GROUPS . AND WCCC WILL ALSO BE THERE . SO IF U WANT TO COME AND MEET SOMENEW FRIEND SLET US KNOW AND U HAVE NO PICS UP . I THINK IT WOULD HELP OUT ALOT IF U ADDED SOME PICS OF YALL . EVEN IF U CANT SHOW YOUR FACE . THERE IS MANY WAYS TO COVER YOUR FACE . BUT STILL SHOW THE PEOPLE WHAT U LOOK LIKE . PICS HELP OUT ALOT . IF U NEED HELP WITH PICS LET ME KNOW . I TAKE PICS AND WORK ON THEM . BUT ANY KIDA OF PICS IS BETTER THEN NONE . NAUGHTY DREAMS FREAKY KITTY

Invatation to swingers. - open letter against Dr. Phil - Below is a copy of my post to Dr. Phils boards concerning the evils of swinging.His mods would not let it be posted as written. Gee I wonder why. I considered addressing this post to Dr. Phil, but as I do not think he really cares what anyone other than himself thinks, feels, or believes anyway, I will simply post it. The last time I checked, Dr. Phil was a man not unlike any other. He does not possess superhuman strength or any other ability. He is simply a man. It is not responsible, In My opinion, to ever assume that ones beliefs are the only, or correct beliefs. There is a huge difference between believing something and knowing it to be fact and Dr. Phil, again, just my opinion, lets himself forget that. I would not be upset if Dr. Phil said,

Toy Recommendations - If you had to choose just one... - Since we dont know much about toys we would have to improvise and make some wild and crazy toys from all the things that are around us. Could be fun to do this on day.......Get a bunch of swingers and do a cross between Survivor, the Amazing race, and that business one with Donald Trump......HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Any Sci-Fi lovers here? - What\'s to describe? Either you like a good sci fi TV series or movie or you don\'t. - I'm a voracious reader. Love most Sci Fi movies and TV(not to be confused with TV's). Love the Dr No series but several of the Dr's we not as good as others. Hated the Darlic series but liked most of the Master ones. I wonder why Heinlein's books were never made into movies most are quite good. C.S. Lewis, Athur C Clark, Asimov all super writers. Martian Chronicles, SG, SG Atlantis... Too many to mention... The day the Earth Stood Still with Michael Rennie...Rocketman Seriels in the movies from the 40's and 50's. Who remembers Rocky's Rocket Rangers from 50's TV brought to you by Ovaltine and if you sent so many jar seals into the show you could get the decoder ring for the secret messages..... Sci Fi has been predictive of future events for so long...Lazers, Rocket ships, Rocket packs, And a statement in Forbidden Planet; " the taped thrillers of the 20th century" Filmed in Eastman Kodac color and in 1956 or maybe 65 but long before video tape was available...The special effects were awsome ...no computer generated things.... And the landing scene... note the shadow and the bubbliing earth and dust.....all hand done animation. And Robbie the robot... a mechanical wonder for it's day... Swingers would and probably love Heinlein... Stranger in a Strange Land and Time Enough for Love.... Can't get enough Sci Fi...

Another Swingers Show on TV - - [quote=PARTNERZNCRIME]did anyone catch this show?....we thought it was a decent representation of some of the issues that arise in the lifestyle.However,we did think it was humorous at times as a few of the couples seemed to be concerned with privacy in not letting family and friends know they are swingers (we dont either) but they are on TV in a swinger show..lol..it will be interesting to see how they progress in upcoming episodes.[/quote] We'd DVR'd it. Pretty interesting. Of course you can bet there was some editing for shock value on some issues. Not sure how many episodes, but we'll definitely be recording them all.