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Playing Alone - - Couples all have different rules. Many categorically refuse to play alone with ANYONE ever. This is their "security" place. They feel comfortable in the place where they can see each other and "protect" if necessary. It takes some people a long time to get passed this.
It's kind of a 'control' thing leftover from the vanilla life. I'm not saying it's bad, good or indifferent it's just the way it is. Some people take longer to get passed their histories as vanillas than others. As they progress and get more comfortable with themselves, the lifestyle, their partners then they will slowly open up and begin to trust a bit more.
Don't take it personally, that's the key. Many people still hang on to their vanilla background that their partners are their most 'valued' possession. I liken it to my $450 deep sea fishing reel. Sure I'll loan it to someone to use if I'm on the boat with them and can make sure they're taking care of it. Is there anyone I'd just let 'borrow' it out right for the day or weekend? Not a chance in hell.
It takes time to let go of that 'she's/he's mine' get feeling. I think my wife and I took almost 6 years before we got there successfully. We tried many times before that but it never worked out well for either of us. We finally came to a point where it's okay to play separately everything from next room to next state it no longer bothers us. I personally prefer within 30 - 50 miles so she get's home faster for the "after play" sex you're describing (which I really like too.)
You'll have to find a VERY secure, VERY established, VERY strong couple to fulfill your fantasy. They are out there, my wife and I for example but even though we're open to playing separately are we open to YOU playing with her or me separately? That's a different level of trust. Does it mean no? No. It means "maybe" in time it's a possibility. (I'm speaking hypothetically of course.)
Don't worry your "couple" or "person" will come along. You might also try investigating a subsection of the lifestyle called "hotwifeing" while I know few swingers who are hardcore into only hotwifing, there are quite a few that tip toe in that part of the lifestyle (quick def, she plays he doesn't except with her.) That's the post play joy for you and the play and post play joy for her. Most people just bounce between that and swinging. There are people out there just be patient and don't expect it from any current playmates that you have established rules with, they need to progress at their own speed.
If only you could tell in public who is and isnt in the LS - - We're in favor of forcibly branding all swingers in a place that's readily visible to everyone. Of course, we promise to keep it a secret and nobody will EVER find out the secret symbol that we all decide will depict the fact that we're disgusting perverts who fuck each other's spouses. Shhhhh! [em]Emo_72[/em]
swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - Swinging isn't just about finding people to have sex with. Yes, that is the main goal but I'd like to think that the people that I hook up with have other interest besides sex. we - at least I am here to meet people who share my lifestyle and make friends that I can chat with or just chill and enjoy each other without being pressured into anything.
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With some assistance from a close knit group of friends Club Elite began to take shape on August, 6th 2007. A location was found, licenses were acquired, and construction began. The club illustrates the love and passion that Eric and Angie have for the swinging lifestyle. They have poured their hearts and souls into the creation of Club Elite and are making it the home for Floridian swingers and swinging visitors from around the world.
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Mormonmomtok - Tiktok mormon swingers - Ya I call bullshit on what I have seen.
Happy Fathers Day - Hope it has ~ - Massage I think I understand where you're going. The first response I read before you edited. I think your doing what they people who classify single males in one group are doing. And broad group everyone. What you covered goes over so many different types of swingers. I'll explain me in part now and yes she reads what I type and gives me input, she just isn't into posting on sites like this. Many of us are not on here for either of us specially where on here for each other this is a swinger site I don't come here for single males. I come here to find couple's for both of us.
The fact my wife didn't realize till I told her last month is when it comes to single males I'm so picky. I'm bi sexual as many know I can post on a site like grinder and I will get sexy guys in there 20s in perfect shape messaging me for hook ups. Full disclosure I don't like doing those because of fear of STDs, but the reason I say that is the market for guys is so over supplied, so if me or my wife want a single guy to play with we typically look for that else where. I don't do hook ups with guys neither does she we want relationship with guys or girls then if it comes sex. That's kind of all over the place sorry I write it on my phone. But if single guys wouldn't go against profile requests on this site I think they would have better reputation. Let's face it this is a swinger site so in my opinion single guys are more of guests that need to watch what they say do. Or get replaced. That sounds harsh but it's true. With all that said me and Brenda did find an amazing single guy on this site. But we contacted him.
Age differences - How do you handle it - We2, I can understand what you are saying. My first wife was 16 years older then I and my current wife is 6 years younger. First wife helped me to mature early and quickly and current wife keeps me young and on my toes. Seems like most everyone feels similar to us. Maybe the people having the conversation we were involved in should have said the younger swingers that were at the party they were referring to were not as mature instead of saying they are more into flirting and dirty dancing rather then playing.
Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - [quote=T0RQUE][quote=MORKANDMINDY]I think the fact that the site hasn't offered lifetime membership specials for so long has really impacted people's ability to connect with newer couples. [/quote]
Contrare, Mr. Mork. Last month, our lifetime membership was $35.
just sayin...
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what you got your lifetime membership for $35...shit they charged me $35.50, and what happened to the endless supply of former Victoria secret models living in the salt lake valley that they promised at my every whim? What ever happened to the good old days when a handshake was a promise...not a way to ejaculate.
Puddle Jumpers Campout - - Just over a week to go. Hope to see a bunch of Puddle Jumpers (swingers) there.
Need A Change? Northern Utah - Business Start Up - [quote=BLUEIDKAT]Well you can tell we are in Utah. Even the swingers site has multi-level marketing ads.[/quote]
lol so true.
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