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Swinging and the Mormon Church - - We know and have known many active Mormon swingers over the years and I think they pretty much have a personal "don't ask don't tell" policy. And, of course, they lie...to their Bish or whoever when asked if they're chaste and stuff. I'm fairly certain most religions pretty much frown on wife swapping and most other forms of sexual relations with someone other than your God approved spouse. So I think the bottom line for most people who espouse a religion would be denial or simply willful disregard of THAT particular religious doctrine. However, as FORMER Mormons (well raised that way, anyway) we do know that there is sort of a loophole that many may not be aware of so you can basically fuck other peeps (and do other naughty shit...short of murder) and still go to heaven...eventually. Check out D&C 132:26. Now the way I interpret that "scripture" I'm pretty much covered (even though I'm an atheist) and will still get to go to heaven and stuff if on the VERY slim chance I'm wrong and it isn't all bullshit. ;-)

ISO: sexy married couple - exclusive FWB - Let's have some fun... - [quote=EVILDOERS]Not really talking about lowering the bar necessarily...more just not getting in your own way by setting impossible standards that few, if any, couples might likely ever meet. And like I said, Ms. Evil and I are absolutely as guilty of this as the next guy. My only point was that in almost THIRTY years of swinging we have, on more than one occasion, been surprised by our eventual connection with couples that we didn't really even give a second glance the first time we met them. Sometimes quality is a very fluid concept that, as humans, we aren't always great at judging. And we agree 100% about quality over quantity. In fact, if you consider the actual number of couples that we've played with in almost three decades in the lifestyle you'd likely surmise that we were either extremely picky or just really lame swingers (Actually, that last one might be true. lol). Bottom line, you absolutely should ONLY fuck people you want to fuck but maybe, just maybe, give a little thought to your criteria for choosing couples and think about which things on your checklist might actually end up not being all that important and prevent you from finding some really great people that might not check off every single box. And speaking of boxes, I'll get off MY soapbox now. [em]Emo_12[/em] [/quote] agreed.

How to find other swingers - - Luvbugs wrote: > > Rumor has it that they congregate together in large online groups where they > share pictures, stories, and sometimes...even get together for crazy group sex. Are you SERIOUS? You mean people actually DO that? Must be those damn people from that KSL bit doing their nefarious recruiting... Who woulda thunk it? ;)

Does anybody really... - ANOTHER annoying poll. - ...fuck anymore? We've talked to quite a few people who have been in the lifestyle for some time now and have yet to hook up and fuck so we thought we'd ask the obvious question as to whether swingers actually still hook up and fuck each other. *Disclaimer: Though we've been in the lifestyle for a long time we've never been SUPER active and have actually gone months at a time and even, occasionally, a few YEARS without playing. In fact, right now it's been probably 2-3 years since we've actually fucked anyone else because life has a tendency to totally get in the way sometimes. 1) Yes, actually. We hook-up and fuck regularly. We're actually quite slutty and fuck other people every chance we get...and that's fairly often. 2) Nope. Swinger sex is just an urban legend...a myth. Nobody really fucks anyone else. Only in Penthouse Letters...or in bad pornos. 3) 2 or 3 YEARS?!!? What are you, monks?!!? 4) We've been wondering the same thing. We're sorta new and have yet to fuck anybody. 5) Swinging is dead. It's been replaced by CrossFit and video games. 6) We'll fuck you, Evil. We're totally into throwing someone a pity fuck. 7) We wouldn't fuck you guys with somebody ELSE'S genitals! 8) You should try the nude beach at the GSL. One billion brine flies can't be wrong. 9) Sex with others is SCARY. We're just here for the titillation factor. 10) You think YOU have trouble getting laid. Try being a single male. 11) Feel free to add your own poll answer. ps-We're NOT trying to get laid. We're just bored (and a little drunk) on a Sunday evening and there's nothing good on TV. [em]Emo_70[/em]

Anyone else getting sick of clubs - - It is why I joined a pretty exclusive group in Chicago. We meet in a private home...there are no fees...all members are checked ahead of time and all are experienced swingers who want to play and are attractive. I LOVE IT! I exclusively swing there, with people I meet there or if recommended by friends I swing with there. LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fantasy Friday - Share them! - I know it's only Thursday (or Thorsday, if you prefer) but Friday can NOT get here fucking soon enough so I'm going to start this a little early and see if it can get some traction that will carry this thread into the weekend. We thought it might be fun to share some of our naughtiest sexual fantasies with each other. Let's either share some written fantasies or, maybe, even some pics or gifs (or videos!) of any fantasies that are rolling around in your brain right now, or that HAVE rolled around in there in the past, or that might pop up based on something you read about someone else's fantasy. This is the place to post your deepest, darkest, wildest sex thoughts even if it might be something you don't necessarily ever want to act out. Oh, and just for fun, please post a "Yes", "No", or "Maybe" about each fantasy depending on whether it's something you def would like to happen, def DON'T ever want to happen IRL, or MAYBE would like to happen given the right circumstances and/or people involved. And PLEASE, no judgments about someone else's fantasy...unless it like involves kids or something illegal or really disgusting. Who knows, maybe it will strike a chord with other swingers and it might start a dialog or something that could lead to meeting people IRL who share your fantasy and want to help you fulfill it. I'll start it off with a fairly mainstream one of Ms. Evil's and this is a 'maybe' but most likely closer to a 'yes'! :-) [img]https://images.sex.com/images/pinporn/2016/07/21/620/16187171.gif[/img]

The vent! - Judgements, I'm so tired of them. - On judgments: My wife and I were in the lifestyle for many years. She died 5 years ago of cancer and was the love of my life. It has been very hard for me as we were married for 34 years. Many of our friends were swingers because, as others have found, those not involved in the lifestyle often have negative judgmental attitudes. We made many friends. After she died I was supported by my friends but I was no longer invited to parties. For a while that was fine because I wasn't ready. But since I've tried to renew my lifestyle activities, I've found that I am no longer welcome. Why? Because I'm a single male. Forget that my wife and I were involved in the lifestyle up in Seattle, forget the many times we hosted parties at our house, my wife's death made me a pariah to other swingers. I really do not understand this. I'm still the same person. I'm discrete, clean, disease and drug free, I'm not pushy and no always means no. I guess I do not understand why all of a sudden I'm no longer welcome at parties i used to attend. Yes, many people not in the lifestyle judge those of us who are. But a large number of people in the lifestyle are just as judgmental, only they pretend that they are not.

Picky Picky - No not your nose - [quote=ALLWENEEDISU]I'm picky, like probably a little bit unrealistically so. I figure I have the man of my dreams who is hung, smart, fun, charismatic and attractive. I shouldn't settle for less then total attraction. This should be true for all. I realize I'm a old hand at this, been in and out (ha) of the lifestyle since 2011, and I've basically done all the things, but if you're with your perfect partner then my understanding is swinging is an enhancement to your sex life. Never settle for less (old swinger advice for the newer swingers) just to have a new partner/experience/taking one for the team. What are your thoughts? [/quote] I think it depends on what you're looking to get out of swinging and what you value in a sexual experience. While I agree with some of your points I also know from experience that different partners/playmates can bring many different things to the table. I've been with women who were absolutely amazing kissers. I've met play partners who knew little sex "tricks" that had never occured to me or to my primary partner that we've been able to incorporate in our own play. I've been fortunate to have sex with women who brought an amazing level of enthusiasm and energy to our encounters. And, lastly, and perhaps even more important, I've met and played with women who I wasn't necessarily immediately attracted to but who I became VERY attracted to once I got to know them a little better and the sex was mind-blowing. I've ultimately learned not to judge a book by it's cover. That physical attraction isn't necessarily the ENTIRE package. And that what makes a person a great sex partner sometimes transcends the purely physical. YMMV Ultimately you are likely get out of swinging more or less what you expect to get out of swinging. If you are less than thrilled at how other men compare to the physical criteria you've listed about your significant other then you probably won't really enjoy swinging all that much. Just my two cents after being in swinging even longer than you. [em]Emo_12[/em]

Swingers clubs in Amsterdam - - Going to be in Amsterdam for 2 nights in September and we would like some suggestions for swingers clubs. Has anyone been to Sameplace, it's look like it might be nice. We appreciate any suggestions.

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