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Dating other Couples - Have you done it? - Been there, done that, have the t-shirt. We know plenty of people who've done it, and done it successfully (up to a point), ourselves included. We don't know of many, if any, where it has lasted for more than a few years and didn't end somewhat badly. It CAN be quite heady and has the potential to take swinging to the next level. Unfortunately, it is also exponentially more likely to crank up the drama factor to eleven (out of ten). Quite often each couple has their own "agenda" (for lack of a better term) that is often at odds with the other couple's agenda. We've seen it frequently cause weird jealousies not only between primary partners but also between non-primary partners and in a few extreme notable cases it has ended marriages. In our case, we were relatively long-term swingers at that point who, although never really super active in the scene, felt like we'd checked off most of the things on our swinging bucket list and were somewhat curious if there was more out there to explore in swingerdom...or if we were sort of done with the scene. The couple we started "dating" wasn't really the kind of couple we usually were attracted to and maybe that was part of the allure. They also had a very interesting (to say the least) dynamic in their marriage that really was at odds with that in our relationship. Ultimately they kept pushing boundaries (started throwing the "L" word around and much more), pushed for more and more separate activities and were insidious in slowly and subtly causing rifts, both large and small, as well as a LOT of drama. We actually didn't even realize how much drama and subterfuge had occurred until we were finally out of the situation entirely. We actually miss them a little, at times, and often wonder if there might have been a way to talk things out and come to a better understanding of how to continue on in a healthier way but they've actually gone on to do exactly the same thing to a number of other couples we know (it's a small world in Utah swinging and word gets around) and it seems to be their pattern. Tldr; It can work. It's quite rare when it works long term. It has the potential for disaster. While it's appealing in many ways we don't really recommend it. YMMV

Christian Swingers - - By the most basic definition, being a Christian simply means you believe that Christ was the son of God. After that it's all doctrinal squabbling. And at that point all you need is positive outlook, and the general idea that being kind, tolerant, and honest are positive things we all should do, and you've got the makings for a perfect Christian swinger. As far as any such sect being widely accepted, the LDS Church is one of the largest, most famous in the world, and it just so happens that a significant number of people still refer to it as a cult, and think that Utah still has polygamy. Misconceptions abound in any faith-structure. And, at risk of beating a dead horse, (which is a vile and ineffective practice) a joint study by grad students at Princeton and Dartmouth found that 28% of interviewees didn't relate to, or only related a little to their Christian denomination. Now it was a sampling of the population, but given the number of Christians in America, 28% can translate into hundreds of thousands, to millions of Christians out there who don't relate well to their denomination, and can practice their own form of spirituality. But I wax verbose, and slightly British. God bless the Swingers. -V

Swing Color Bands - Swing Color Bands - [quote=MR_TRIXIEE][quote=MASSMN]I agree the wristbands are a good idea but Having so many colors is ridiculous and confusing as this site is proving. What is everyone going to have to carry a cheat card in their pockets to remind them of what colors what. Why not stay to the basic's: One color which just signifies you are swingers and can be worn outside the club these also can have a universal Logo of choice. Have Two clors which shows Female is BI, multicolored, and Third, tri-colored, which shows Both are Bi. That's One band with NO more then 3 colors which u can wear anywear and maybe meet new people u wouldn't have been able to do before. Again, keep it simple and less confusing. [/quote] I think the color chart is great... all you have to do is remember what your color is about and then when you run into someone that has a band on and you don't know what the color stands for you will be impaled to actually go up to that person and ask them what it stands for...[size=200] [color=#56121d"]this is what is called a great conversation starter...[/color][/size] this is what we are trying to get across to people.. you don't need to remember all the colors just the number that is on the bracelet... Last night we sold over 47 of them at the meet and greet so people are going to be wearing this out there so be looking for them!!! If you didn't get yours last night contact us and we will get the ball rolling to get you one.... Mr Trixiee[/quote] Exactly! What a great ice breaker. I'm hoping they work when we're out and about.

Let's play, rate a profile. - - Wow! I just want to call out some REALLY AWESOME things in this thread. 1) Ucouple - you did a FANTASTIC job of calling out all the things I was thinking about rude3050's profile and you weren't rude or condescending. You were sincere and helpful and that is AWESOME! I hope we can cultivate more of this kind of a culture in this community. Thanks for being the example! :) 2) rude3050 - you took the constructive criticism and advice you were given and acted on it right away, very effectively and without getting defensive. Good on you man! Your profile just improved by leaps and bounds today. I don't have any idea what the lifestyle scene is like in Kansas but the changes definitely improve your odds. Kansas swingers take note of this guy! 3) All the other thoughtful, encouraging and kind words in this thread...kudos all around! We all tend to get hung up on the bad behavior - sometimes it seems like there is an awful lot of it. I think the majority of the real people on this site value kindness, honesty, inclusion, etc. I'm going to make an effort to focus on and call out the positive more often - starting now. Thanks everyone for the uplift! :)

KEY PARTY - - We 'get' and actually applaud the effort to find some way to avoid the often typical cliquey swing party but still have to wonder how feasible it might be in practice. The problem, as we see it, is that swinging is an atypical social construct in that it is driven almost entirely by superficial factors such as relative attractiveness (age, height, weight, body type, breast size, cock size, and any number of other physical characteristics). When we first started swinging, back around the time Cleopatra was busy inventing hookup culture and the term unicorn, we quickly discovered that swinging wasn't the sexual egalitarian utopia that many people believe it should be. Indeed, there was actually a broad, distinct caste system, if you will, that governed who hooked up with who and who was relegated to the sidelines at least in certain circles or situations. This might be best illustrated by one of our very early encounters with two couples at a swinger meet and greet back east. One of the couples was loudly expounding on their utter disgust with the concept that people in the lifestyle seem to be so "stuck-up" (their term) and were too concerned about "looks" and other superficial characteristics. They went on and on for probably close to an hour before they, I guess, ran out of steam and decided to leave. After they were gone, the other couple at the table laughed a little bit and gave us some fairly sage advice. They told us that we would likely meet three general kinds of swingers in the lifestyle. They said that the first couple was the "Hey, you're swingers and we're swingers so let's fuck!" kind of people and that on the opposite end of the spectrum were the extremely picky, "beautiful people" who spent more time "watching the door" at a swing function always looking for the BBD (bigger, better, deal) and who more often than not left without actually hooking-up/playing. They said that the relatively smaller group in between those two extremes were those who had a little more realistic attitude and who were, while still giving a good amount of weight to initial physical attraction, actually looking a little more FOR reasons to play rather than for reasons NOT to play. They told us to decide for ourselves what kind of swingers we wanted to be and go from there but to never fuck someone that we really didn't want to fuck. *shrug* As to your idea of making it more of a "speed swinging" type of party, I'm almost certain that there are at least a few people here on Swingular who have talked about, if not hosted, just such a party. It might be interesting if they or any of their guests chimed in as to how it turned out.

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - ULUV... nice way to prove your point...

Looking for Swinger friendly hotels in Brevard Co. Fl - - Here are all of te sites that I could fit together from all over FL... Hope this helps. Name: AMORE SWINGERS CLUB Address: P.O. Box 2283 City, State: Ormond Beach, FL Distance: 449 miles Phone: 386-255-1600 Email: [email protected] Contact: Petra & Joe Website: Not Listed Description: PARTIES EVERY WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY & SATURDAY 7.00PM-3.00AM, FOR INVITED COUPLES & SELECT SINGLES. Name: The Lifestyle Ranch Address: 16571 SE 49St Rd City, State: Ocklawaha, FL Distance: 472 miles Phone: 352-625-8918 Email: [email protected] Contact: N/A Website: http://www.angelfire.com/fl4/lifestylera... Description: 8 acre secluded Private ranch catering to lifestyle couples and single ladies! We are Free and intrested in friends and friendship only! Name: CharlieWoods Address: Just off I-4 City, State: Orange City, FL Distance: 474 miles Phone: (386) 775-2372 Email: N/A Contact: Charlie and Carolyn Website: Not Listed Description: On-premise for couples and singles. We have 6 acres to party on with dance floor, hot tub, pool and private playrooms. Name: Club Relate Address: PO Box 574584 City, State: Orlando, FL Distance: 500 miles Phone: 407-678-2540 Email: [email protected] Contact: Tom & Lynda Website: http://www.clubrelate.net Description: A masturbation swing club for couples and singles of both sexes, meeting on Saturdays. Twelve years of operation Name: RANCH 4 PLAY Address: Call City, State: Orlando, FL Distance: 502 miles Phone: (352) 483-1988 Email: [email protected] Contact: N/A Website: http://ranch4play.com/ Description: RANCH 4 PLAY is situated on a 5 acre site in a peaceful, wooded site 30 minutes from Orlando Florida. As a guest of RANCH 4 PLAY, you will have access to the cleanest on-premise, private, swingers party in all of central Florida. Name: J.D. & Sandra's Address: P.O. Box 720249 City, State: Orlando, FL Distance: 509 miles Phone: 866-738-3950 Email: [email protected] Contact: J.D. & Sandra Website: http://www.jdnsandras.com Description: On premise club for couples and select singles every Saturday. Name: Florida Social Address: * City, State: Fort Walton Beach, FL Distance: 516 miles Phone: * Email: [email protected] Contact: Steve and Mandy Website: http://www.floridasocial.com Description: Premiere off-premise adult swingers club. We strive to provide adult couples in the swinging lifestyle a fun safe place to meet and get to know other like minded adult couples. Our socials are always exciting and we can't wait to meet you! Rating: (10=Best 1=Worst) 12 Ratings Clean Atmos. Cost Summary Website Avg. 7 7 6 7 You may only rate clubs within 350 miles of you. Name: The Partyhouse Address: 14051 Old Dade City Road City, State: Kathleen, FL Distance: 531 miles Phone: 863-853-7750 Email: [email protected] Contact: Anne Website: http://www.centralflpartyhouse.com Description: We party in a private home, with ample parking and privacy for couples and single males and females. We have monthly special events The parties are on friday and saturday evenings Name: The Bottom Line Address: 3090 Evans Avenue City, State: Fort Myers, FL Distance: 637 miles Phone: 239-337-7292 Email: n/a Contact: John Website: http://www.clubtbl.com Description: Club that meets every Friday night. Name: Deenies Hideaway Address: 5011 W. Hillsboro Blvd. City, State: Pompano Beach, FL Distance: 650 miles Phone: 954-428-3336 Email: [email protected] Contact: Deenie Website: http://deenieshideaway.com Description: Luxurious private on premise swingers retreat for over 20 years. We are open 365 days a year. We have gourmet buffet, volleyball, a pool talbe, indoor hot tub, swimming pool and cozy playrooms. Name: Club Hedonism Address: 1000 east sample road City, State: Pompano Beach, FL Distance: 651 miles Phone: 954-783-4741 Email: [email protected] Contact: N/A Website: http://clubhedonism.com/ Description: South Florida's finest on premise club. wed -sat 8pm till 4am couples only sat. huge dance floor private rooms group rooms.Upscale and affordable Name: Club 3299 Address: n/a City, State: Pompano Beach, FL Distance: 651 miles Phone: 954-815-3299 Email: [email protected] Contact: Jeff Website: n/a Description: Social club for those in the lifestyle. Name: Club Chic Address: 525 East Sample Road City, State: Pompano, FL Distance: 654 miles Phone: 954-781-8884 Email: [email protected] Contact: n/a Website: http://www.clubchic.com/ Description: Off premise club with DJ, buffet, BYOB. Open Saturdays Name: Trapeze Address: 3660 W. Commercial Blvd City, State: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Distance: 658 miles Phone: 954-730-8121 Email: [email protected] Contact: Alan or Dennis Website: http://www.trapezeclub.com Description: On premise club open Wed-Sun 8pm-5am. We offer a buffet. BYOB Name: Platos Repeat Address: 321 West Sunrise Blvd City, State: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Distance: 658 miles Phone: 954-523-9818 Email: [email protected] Contact: n/a Website: http://www.platos-repeat.com/ Description: Private on premise swing club open Wed-Sun. We have a four star buffet, made to oder breakfast on weekends, DJ and alcohol is BYOB. Rating: Name: Anakosha Address: 2338 Immokalee Road #146 City, State: Naples, FL Distance: 665 miles Phone: 941-436-2014 Email: [email protected] Contact: n/a Website: http://www.anakosha.org/ Description: Couples only parties for the purposes of education and exploration of human sexuality and love in the context of marriage and alternative relationships. Membership required.

Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - [quote=EVILDOERS](cough*suckup*cough)[/quote] Indeed. We suck up, we suck down, otherwise you lose that "vacuum seal" and it's just not as pleasurable. Ha!

Analog - Fun 1971 Swinger magazine - Wow that would take a lot of effort. Imaging getting your pictures taken and waiting a week while the toll of film is getting developed at the local pharmacy, writing a full bio by hand and mailing it off.. We used to just go to the local gay bar and meet other swingers.

Hey all you "totally secure couples" - Just in case you got it wrong you have methods to recover your loss. - Other than the law suit this is pretty typical of couples who try to "fix" or "spice-up" their failing marriage by swinging. They somehow foolishly think that having sex with other people will magically repair all the self-inflicted damage they've done to their relationship over the years. What they find out is it just intensifies all of it. It just gives them one more thing to argue about. I've read all the newspaper articles on this deal that I could find on Google News. This couple was already in divorce court and just didn't know it. They definitely were swinging to "fix" their screwed-up relationship. According to her, she didn't want to and he coerced and manipulated her into doing it. Of course this sounds great in court for her case. I think the truth is they both had one foot out the door and this was just the break they needed to get away from each other. "There must be 50 ways to leave your lover" type stuff. Unfortunately, they only strengthened what most people already think about swingers. You never hear the good stories, just the "swinging destroyed my marriage" or "I had some friends that tried swinging and they're now divorced." You look into it further though, and you always find out that they were already emotionally divorced, just not legally. Good riddance to this couple. They are truly boneheads.