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Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Alton, I do not deny that. Hilter, the KKK, Stalin, Osama Bin Ladin all had/have their opinions. Does that justify their actions??? NO. It's my opinion that Marijuana should be legal ;-) -D-

SouthJordanCouple - Fun Trails for ATV’s - [quote=SouthJordanCouple]Hi everyone. Just wondering if anyone can suggest any fun, scenic, not so rocky ATV trails somewhere in the Utah area? My girlfriend and I have 4-wheelers that we like to take out and ride on the weekends. Also, are there any lifestyle friendly people that meet every now and then that go riding?[/quote] Your going to have to be more specific, which lifestyle? Because off roading lifestyle people are just as adamant that it's a lifestyle as swingers are. And don't even get me started on Jeep folk.. But those that have utv's, side by sides, and even Jeep owners are just messing around, you want hardcore? Find yourselves some Samurai owners!

Las Vegas - Swingers clubs ect. - [quote=ROYFUN]Me and my GF are heading to Las Vegas tomorrow morning. She is curious about the lifestyle and want to take her somewhere fun but not to wild. Any recommendations? [/quote] Flirtslv is our favorite club. Check out their website. Flirtslv.com

Single male in this lifestyle.. - I have questions for couples and single females. - At the risk of restating for the millionth time... Cold hard truth time, JOSH. Single guys in the lifestyle are a dime a dozen (that's a really old fashioned way of saying there are a LOT of you). And believe it or not you all claim you're super spiffy dudes (you're not...not all of you anyway). If you all WERE super duper All American boy-next-door stud muffins you'd have girls falling all over you and we wouldn't be having this (single male) conversation for the bazillionth time. So let's do the math. There are a LOT of single guys in the lifestyle (despite some who would argue that singles aren't really swingers). There are fewer couples in the lifestyle and even fewer single ladies (again despite that 'swingles aren't swingers' argument). So even factoring in the fact that ALL swinger females are insatiable minxes who have sex almost continuously there just isn't enough time in the day for them to get around to fucking each and every single guy. Sorry, man. My advice to you, and you aren't gonna like it, is to take all those amazing qualities you possess and find a hottie of your own that you can go out into the wild world of swingdom and share with other people. Swinging really is a couple centric activity. There's a reason it used to be called "wife swapping" and people wearing like disco clothes and gold chains and stuff used to go to key parties. Can you imagine the chaos that would have ensued if a bunch of single guys threw their keys in the bowel at a key party? ps- If you'd rather not find a woman to swing with and prefer to keep your single male status my advice to you would be to grow a very thick skin, become more patient than a Buddhist monk and never ever ever come across as desperate or WORSE pissy that you don't feel like you're getting your fair share of hot swinger tail.

Looking For A Party This Weekend? - Big Bang 4th Of July Weekend At JJ's! - You found it! Come party at JJ Western Swing July 3, 4, & 5! You won't get kicked out at 3am at this party! No, at JJ's we go all night/weekend long and you can stay on premises - no need to rent a motel! JJ's is located in beautiful Pahrump, Nevada; a short, scenic drive from Las Vegas. If you live in Nevada, Utah, Arizona, or California the drive will be well worth it! JJ's regularly attracts visitors from all of these states but the last thing you will find here is a "tourist trap". These are real life-stylers at a real lifestyle party! We already have people RSVP'd from all over the country as well as plenty of Vegas/Pahrump locals and the list is growing. (Last weekend we had real swinger couples from Pennsylvania and Salt Lake as well as ladies from Alabama and Atlantic City!) Come enjoy the sexy, no pressure atmosphere. Real swingers abound but first-timers and those investigating the lifestyle are always welcome! JJ's Party Information Line: (775) 513-3544 [url=http://www.swingular.com/partyZone.php?_a=details&_PID=137]July 3rd Party Information[/url] [url=http://www.swingular.com/partyZone.php?_a=details&_PID=138]July 4th Party Information[/url] [url=http://www.swingular.com/partyZone.php?_a=details&_PID=139]July 5th Party Information[/url] [url=http://jjwesternswing.com]JJ Western Swing Official Website[/url]

Personal Web Page - - We never worried about the webpage here. We have our own. http://www.swingers.ws

KSL swing story - - The story was terribley produced. Little to no research. As I said in the thread leading up to KSL being at the Club 90 party, they decided what story they were going to write before they even put pen to paper, and they were not going to let the truth get in the way of their story. I particularily liked the way it played women to be victims in the Lifestyle, especially when everyone knows it is women that really run the show and have the biggest say-so in who a couple plays with. Also, in surveys of swingers when asked "Who's idea was it to start swinging?" 34% of the time it was the wife that first brought it up. Sure, men still accounted for 54% of the survey (the rest couldn't remember who's idea it was originally), but it's not the men wanting sex with other women and drawing their poor defenseless wife into the lurid underground world of wife swapping to do it. Hell, anyone who's been around it for a while knows it's more "husband swapping" anyway. :p I've been following the comments on KSL's website, and these people have no life. They wait to watch the news every night and then add their two cents to every subject. None of them have any idea what they are talking about. As Ozzie Guillen says about arm chair coaches and sportscasters "the farther you sit from the plate the smarter you think you are." LMAO But all the comments are along the same lines, the evil cheating husband luring his innocent, unsuspecting wife into the seedy underworld. Then you get the fake profile they put up and within "six days, 70 married men, most from Utah, ask to start a fling." LMAO Damn, how many couples get emails every day from "free member" married men looking to cheat? We get at least one a day. The same old story over and over: Married Mormon family man who says "I love my wife but she doesn't like sex". These people need to look within themselves. We're not the problem, they are. Plus, most of us won't play with cheaters and after a time we've become very adept at sniffing them out. My wife gets at least one married Mormon man a day sending her an IM on her personal Yahoo! Messenger ID, and they find her in the Yahoo! directory (not Yahoo! Personals, the directory). They just go through looking for women online to contact. They don't know she is a swinger. Her Yahoo! profile is innocent as can be. If they are going to cheat they will find a way, with or without swingers. Wow... I'd love to say this on KSL's site, but like fun4usxx said, it will just add fuel to the fire and you can't win. You can't fix stupid. Mr. Caress4u

BD/SM- Why are there no groups? - - Now this IS Terry. OMG, did I unleash a monster when I put a profile on Fetlife.com for her? Just kidding, she's an angel. Even if there might be just a touch of devil, or at least imp. Anyway, that didn't work out as well as hoped, like Evil said, most fetish groups don't swing, their events aren't usually about sex, just discussions, socializing, and demonstrations, with people doing scenes with the people they're already in a BDSM relationship with. And before someone asks me "well, why don't you just ...", it's simple. She's into some things I'm not and in that life, if you aren't really into something, even if you do know what to do and how to do it, you can't really be a very good Dom. Since the guy is supposed to make the girl happy, I did the Fetlife profile for her. The first thing a new person who's interested in some BDSM group will get told is "We don't swing", that he/she isn't going to be able to go to an event or even party and hook up with someone, that even if he/she gets invited to participate in someone's scene (it does happen occasionally) it isn't likely to culminate in actual sex. Which makes it difficult for someone who wants her BDSM to be part of actual sex. One thing though, Evil. The Fifty Shades of Gray phenomenon notwithstanding, BDSM is more secretive than swinging. Anyone who finds a swing event online can attend, unless he's a single male and it's a no single males thing. Not so with BDSM. Fetlife, for example, has more than one sub-group that sponsors events. You can find the events on the site, but you can't just go to them. You have to be sponsored by someone from that group. And not everyone in the group, people who themselves have been through the process and can attend the group's events without a sponsor, can even be a sponsor. There are always specific requirements and a process of some sort to go through to become approved to sponsor new people. There's still a stronger stigma attached to BDSM than there is to swinging, and the potential consequences to being outed are more severe, especially in a place like Utah. So the people are much more cautious than are swingers, and swingers don't exactly put up billboards ads on the highway. ~ Terry

Single Male Market - Need feedback on a feature idea. - Brilliant! Thousands of other guys!!! That is very well said! I actually did some soul searching a couple of months ago and I noticed the difference.. I am pretty sure someone is saying I may be lucky because we have some “Affirmative Action Swingers” LOL

Curious Question - - Actually POOHBEAR... its a major secret society, (swingers), that have been practicing underground in this area, away from public opinion ever since the pioneers came west. Recently it was exposed by the 20/20 news show and now everyone wants to get in on the action. Seriously... most of the western area of Nev, Utah, Ariz. etc is desert and the cities grow where ever water is available. That means alot of empty space in between cities. As for the number of people in lifestyles... I think alot of us just got bored and had to find something better to do than go bowling at night. You are right however, there are alot of very wonderful people out here.. Best of luck to you on your move and relocation. Cyndi