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New Yorker Shutting down - - [quote=summerlovin]
Whatever. Enjoy your cesspool thread of bitching and moaning about Ross and the New Yorker.
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World famous swingers here gracing us with their lovely words.
Flying monkeys.
We had several anonymous and fake accounts come after us both on FB and here when we brought up issues at the New Yorker.
And heard they are still deleting and removing people for bringing anything up on the group about the article.
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thoughts on Pictures - -
I was just curious on how many swingers truly enjoy opening up a profile and seeing only a crotch shot? So many profiles on sites have people that post a crotch or penis shot and expect that will draw lots of responses.
I was also curious as to how many of you had run into profiles where the person(s) had posted pics that were several years out of date?
The definition of cheating - - Interesting discussion. Certainly from a relationship standpoint the classic definition of cheating is being with someone other than your partner physically and/or emotionally. As swingers, however, we often hold ourselves above others and fall back on the lying and/or sneaking around aspect. Personally I feel that being dishonest with the person you hold most dear in this life to be the essence of cheating for me. When information is withheld you take away that person's prerogative to choose whether or not to stay in the relationship with you based on your actions outside of the relationship. There are a million ways people rationalize cheating. I find that a person's attitude towards cheating is a very good litmus test for the depth of their character. Now should we talk about cheating on a test or cheating other people out of their hard earned money? How about cheating on your taxes or at a poker game with friends? At what point DOES cheating become morally reprehensible or should it be "all's fair in love and war" and "every man (or woman) for himself"? Or as SIRNEWBY asserts, is self deception/lying/cheating really the only valid metric? Or did I misunderstand your point, SN? It would be interesting to get feedback from people (I'm sure there are plenty) who've been cheated on.
Best Swingers Club in Houston? - Going there in Sept - Johnson Space Center
Explain why you like being a swinger - - Can't really answer as to the exact question posed, as I am a single guy and, therefore, I suppose I can't really be categorized as a swinger, per se. But as to why I like being part of this site with it's potential for associating with swingers: It's because I have never really fit the standard model of sexuality (if there really is one) and the opportunity to associate with people who have broken out of the "mold" and experience something new and bring something new to the scene is very interesting and exciting to me. Hopefully I will get to do a little more than theorize about it.
Lifestyle Stats - - According to Wikipedia there are over 4 million swingers in America. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swinging
Given that there are about 315.5 million people in America and that about 189 million of them are ages 21 to 65, here are some interesting stats on Swingers in the population.
If you're flying on an average Boeing 737, there are 4 swingers on-board. Rice-Eccles stadium would have about 968 swingers at a sold out game. A sold out Jazz game at Energy Solutions Arena would have 421 swingers cheering on their team. An average Utah movie theater might have as many as 5 swingers viewing an R rated movie. Madison Square Gardens would entertain 423 swingers at any given event. Pioneer Theater might have 20 in the lifestyle at one of it's shows. Going to a convention at the Southtowne Center; you'll enjoy the company of 572 swingers. Hale Center Theater might have 13 at one of it's shows. The Outdoor Retailers Winter Market appealed to as many as 174 swingers. You might be skiing with 138 swingers if you're going to Deer Valley. The average cruise ship might have 47 swingers aboard. A Utah Walmart sells to something like 71 swingers each day. If you're riding TRAX, so are 445 other swingers each day. If you ran the Salt Lake Marathon, you did so with 22 swingers. The Big Cottonwood Marathon didn't have as many, only about 19. Here are the big ones. Sturgis Motorcycle Rally - 10,584 swingers (not really a surprise). This one surprised me - Hot August Nights might have a whopping 16,935 swingers checking out the rod and custom cars. Amazing!
So if you're worried about running into another member of the lifestyle you can quit worrying. You're running into them on a real regular basis. You just might not know it. Based on the national statistics, there are actually about 36,624 swingers in Utah. That's more than 1 person in 50. How many people do you know?
Mr. Sexperimentors
PS. Imagine what it would be like if the entire lifestyle population of Utah partied together!
Female sex fantasies. - What do women really think about sex? - [quote=EVILDOERS] We may have to agree to disagree here. We've been in the lifestyle for almost 3 decades and have talked to countless people (yes, many of them even women-haha) who have talked openly about the fantasies they have and have had and sometimes, sadly, how often those fantasies were stifled to some degree or another by societal expectations and repression as well as suppressed by how they were raised by their parents (especially their mothers..."Good girls don't do/say/think things like that."). [/quote]
This is just anecdotal and you are failing to realize that you are talking to them in a LS scenario where everyone wants to be the super open and cool movie star-like swingers. Same reason all SM's in the LS are respectful, kind and the Good Lord's gift to couples seeking MFM or even the ones that are not. We all play The Imitation Game. They will talk to you openly, honestly, will tell you how much they enjoy it, how healthy for their relationship is. It almost becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. But, unless you were raised in a far away land where the LS was a norm and that we all know it has never existed, these confessions are an integral part of the illusion. And, if you take all that at face value, you are lying to yourself and even worst, believing it.
[quote=EVILDOERS] It seems more than just a little condescending and even a little bit misogynistic.[/quote]
I've been called worst lol.
It's just biology, we think we are this almighty superior species, key to the universe, chosen to be sovereigns of all when all we are is just mammals with an unusually large brain victims of our own imagination and gullibility for the most part.
And yes, imagination is sometimes good, that's how we got to the moon. But that's also why when you go to an Indian casino, you only see pictures last dozen big winners from last year but you don't see the thousands of losers of this week. Most of us are trapped in a dream and think we can make our own reality.
"What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun." -Ecclesiastes 1:9
VALIDATION - - yes definately when it comes to a site like this where there are so many phonies. well maybe some aren't phony, but not swingers either, and some are here just to watch lol
Symbol Question - -
WEFLY,
Not a guru, just takin a guess. Amy could be correct in that it maybe referencing swingers. LOL. I was going for the literal approach.
-Don-
Proud member of
Fly-fishing Swingers - New Swingular Group - Excellent! :z
We catch a lot of bass on the fly rod. So bass fishing is fine by us...especially if she's coming along! :*
Sure hope y'all join the group so we can stay in touch as we travel around the country.
I'd even consider some surf fishing if the right invite came along...like from this friend of ours. :h
