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Too Many Fake People Here - Nobody really wants to fuck! - [quote=WILDONEZ2004][quote=TIFFND][quote=HAOPENGYOU]Before we moved to the coast 3 years ago, we were pretty active in the Utah lifestyle, and it definitely seemed more active and vibrant than it does now, at least insofar as we can judge from activity on this website. Back then we would regularly do things with the same three couples, all of whom we met on Swingular, and we notice now that two of their profiles are no longer here on this site. So you might be right, although we hope not, because we had a blast with this in Utah. When we did make the move out of Utah, we switched to another website, as Swingular is strongly Utah-centric. In fact, we've never had a single communication on Swingular from anywhere at all outside of Utah. Hey, if things get too sparse, come meet us in Portland, which apparently is the [url=https://www.prunderground.com/swingery-publishes-top-10-cities-with-the-most-swingers-in-the-us/00102465/]#1 swinger city in the country[/url]. We had no idea about that when we moved to Oregon, but we're not complaining. Go to Privata downtown if you ever have the chance. And if you ever tell anyone that you're not interested in a physical relationship with them, and they lose it (happened to us one time), then they're no one you wanted to hang with anyway. You'll do well to be rid of them. If any of you ever make it to the coast, you're invited to sip wine with us and watch whales from our deck. Best of luck to you. And Happy New Year.[/quote] Our point originally was that perhaps these people aren't really as fake, as they are private. I think the scene here is actually still doing quite well! It's just changing. In our case, we're just not as "out there" anymore as we used to be....And kind of feel like maybe that's true for a lot of folks. And maybe it's our age...we are 10 years older now...and not exactly in high demand. That said...we just may have to do a bit of whale watching in Portland, someday.....[/quote] When we started nearly 10 years ago, we made MANY more connections through this site. Now...not so much. We’ve changed. The scene has changed. I remember bi-guys being afraid to mention it for fear of outright hostility. We now prefer a connection, and to meet first to see if the connection is there, if they are in fact real, and to see if they “creep us out.” We do enjoy finding new friends, even if it is just for the night, all the better of more than that. And just finding people who are a bit more liberated to share some company even if there’s no play involved is also great. We have much more to offer than a good roll in the hay, as do most people, and the hay rolling is awesome, but enhanced by an intelectual and mutual respect.[/quote] Well said!

Vegan lifestyle - Plant based playmates - [quote=Yummycpl]Now we are debating on a swingers website? Lame! 🤣[/quote] Seriously ? You make a false negative comment against other’s lifestyle choice and you don’t expect a debate ? I’d like to know the source of your information as well ! It’s not even logical much less fact !

LDS Swingers Survey - Will any former/active LDS swingers take my survey? - Yeah, you might also want to ask if you have rules about who you play with. And maybe another section: Are you LDS and using this to cheat on your spouse?

What the Actual Fuck? - - [quote=ILLUSTRATOR]Evil, the "mean German man" is into furries. Sorry, but it's true. And, because there are so few willing to have sex with an angry man, he gets frustrated and pulls out his dictionary. Instant grammar Nazi. It's an ugly cycle of abuse, really. [/quote] Well I'm certainly not going to vilify a man for enjoying a normal, healthy sexual outlet. On closer inspection I don't think that's Gizmo after all. I think it's actually some freak accident from the Build A Bear store. And speaking of freak accidents, you should see the uncut director's version of 'Rudolf, The Red Nosed Reindeer'. Those misfit toys weren't misfit because they were broken. They're ALL kinds of freaky naughty pervy and were banished to that island (the same one Ted Cruz plans to send swingers after he's elected) so they wouldn't pervert the rest of society. You don't EVEN want to know what Charlie-In-The-Box does inside his box with Dolly and Spotted Elephant! [em]Emo_21[/em]

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=JUSTLOOKING5548][quote=HOTTIEHOGANS]I LOVE dp :) love love love. I would like to try dvp too. but we don't do single guys and finding girls that want to do it/allow their hubby's to do it is difficult. :([/quote] well maybe you need to loosen your standard a little bit? just sayin. I dont mean to be rude but the overall stigma on swingular of how single males are big pieces of shit gets old. I mean that is your choice just dont get on here complaining how rough it is for you to accoplish your goal. Thats like me complaining i am not getting laid because i will only do jennifer anniston, carmen elctra, or megan fox and none of them are returning my calls...lol know what i mean?[/quote] I totally get what you are saying. The no single guys is by request of my hubby, not me. If it were up to me, I'd have him and about 3 singles guys at, once :) bit I love my man and he's less comfortable with that so I respect it. Single guys are in no way pieces of shit ;)

Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - SAGITTARIUS

Dear single females and males - Tired of this. - [quote=MrandMrsSexyKats]This is the problem with single anything on a swingers site...you demonstrate your one track selfish motivation...it isn’t a thread about hooking up it’s about informing the community about a problem..and you hijack it...what a fucking idiot...[/quote] Why are you being so aggressive towards people who aren't doing anything to you?

Opening your marriage - How did the conversation come up? - It was pretty much a mutual idea. We both grew up in very strict religious (Yes, Mormon.) households. We took each other's virginity on our wedding night after a rather weird ceremony in the temple. Immediately we decided that we REALLY liked sex. We started discussing our fantasies and both wondering what we might have missed out on growing up and not being able to explore sexually like many of our less religious peers. We also enjoyed reading and telling each other erotic stories in bed. One day a few years after we got married, while living back east, I wandered into an adult bookstore to grab the latest Penthouse Letters and a cheaply printed "magazine" of adult ads for swingers caught my eye. I bought it and took it home. We'd read, of course, about swinging in Penthouse Letters but had never really considered that people actually DID it. Not too long after that, after MUCH fantasizing, we found ourselves parked outside a small house party, chugging Bartles and Jaymes, and daring each other to go in. That was in 1989! [em]Emo_12[/em]

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=ORALODYSSEY]Both DP and DVP are incredibly fun! We love it and it is so hot!![/quote]Average size guy here... fits all warm wet places.....DP and DVP...Apple pie :O

Evil's latest poll. Fellas, would you ever... - - [quote=CHEFFETTE][quote=EVILDOERS]Naw. Not tryin' to be the Soup...er Sex Nazi. Just wanted to try to understand where some of the attitudes about male bisexuality and swinging come from. I find it extremely interesting how much homophobia still exists in the world and how much exists in a community of people dedicated to sexual freedom. I find human nature fascinating and especially when that nature is something that is more or less taught rather than innate. [/quote]In the three months + I've been reading here all I can come up w/ to explain certain members' homophobia and continued, idiotic comments is this is a male-dominated swinger site and in my experience males feel more threatened by the potential they're perceived as something they don't want to be seen as; you'd think that w/ as much time as they spend w/ their own cock in their hand every single day they'd be less terrified of a cock belonging to another guy, but apparently they must declaim it at every turn or they'll go sterile/bald/teh gayz w/o even TRYING.[/quote] If I were from Maine, I'd say "Ahyup". As I told a girl a couple days back when we were talking about "Sexual Fluidity" by Lisa Diamond, when she said she'd heard that Diamond is working on a new study along the same lines, but on men instead of women, I doubted she'd find much there because, for whatever reason, society has a much more severe taboo against male-male sex than it does against female-female sex. The taboo against women with women was once nearly as strong, but since probably sometime in the '60s it has become much less so. And you're surrounded by society's attitudes, and they're pounded into your head from they day you're old enough to understand anything. And the stronger a taboo, and male-male sex is one of the strongest, the more unlikely it is that you'll get ever rid of it. Physically, sex is a matter of friction properly applied to the correct parts of the body, ultimately resulting in orgasm. So the sex of the person applying it, or to whom you're applying it, really shouldn't matter. But it does. I have absolutely zero homophobia. If I'm in bed with more than one person, and some guy's hand touches me someplace for a second I won't freak out or even care. I understand that I've been socialized into how I feel, and that if I'd grown up in, for example, ancient Greece, I wouldn't have been. I understand that the prohibition of male-male sex grew out of humanity needing to expand as quickly as possible in order to survive, and that the cultural attitudes which that created got written into religions as they developed. I know that there's absolutely no logical reason for it. I know that the "logical" arguments against homosexual sex are nonsense. Like "it isn't natural - you don't see homosexual animals." Bullshit. Yes you do, all the time. I have a hen who's always humping the other hens. She doesn't accomplish anything, but she does it. One of the animals that is genetically closest to humans, the Benobo, a type of chimpanzee, has sex all the time with members of its band (the true swingers of the animal world), male or female, doesn't matter. I know that physically, biologically, there's no reason sex with one sex shouldn't work as well as with the other. I have a really good friend who is a pre-op male to female transexual, and if she ever has the surgery, and becomes physically female below as well as above the waist, sure I'd have sex with her if she wanted to. And I have other friends who are lesbian or gay. And I even belong to and volunteer for HRC (Human Rights Council). I should be a prime candidate for bisexuality. But no, I would not suck someone's dick. Or want some guy sucking mine. Even though I understand that that feeling has been socialized into me, that it probably wasn't predetermined when I was born male, still it's there, and it is what it is. The more emphatically something is socialized into you as you grow up, the less likely it is that you'll ever break away from it, even if you do manage to get away from some of the other things you were "taught". And I think that, Evil is your answer. ~ Terry