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Men, oh men, where are your pics... - - Sooo agree with this!!!! We hate when we see a nice looking female, then nothing of him. As much as my wife loves me, she is never going to play with a couple until she gets to see what she can play with too so it is not an "unpleasant surprise" like the one time we rolled the dice...lol . We don't even contact anyone anymore unless we see both. We have tons of face pics in the private album, almost to the point where someone asked if we were "really" swingers because that is all there was, Now we have body parts in there too,:) Women, be proud of your man and show him off!!!!!

Logan - Vasa gyms - [quote=EVILDOERS]As to the second part of your question, we haven't actually played AT the gym since the old Sports Forum in Woods Cross was open. We used to occasionally sneak into the spin room when the gym wasn't crowded and do naughty stuff. Only once with another couple tho. [em]Emo_82[/em] [/quote]Thats hot. We should create a swingers only gym 😀!

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - perhaps TEQUILAROSE was confused by my statement, I stated that alot of people have fetish's but I do not know alot of white couples that are interested in black men, not every woman like a cock over 8" either, there are some but we have not met very many and it seems to be a very select group and type of swinger. I am not speaking for all swingers, I am stating what I have seen in the past and my experience in what others have told me about why they do not prefer single men. I can tell you that "I" have had many men tell me that they have a wife or live in gf and that she is "not into it". In reality its safer for a man that is afraid of losing what he has to cheat on his partner in a swinger enviroment because the chances of it coming back to expose him is much less likely, no connections, no ties, no one knows someone that knows the other person, its very safe. Alot of single men have also told me that they feel that they are bringing excitement to a couples relationship that the husband can no longer provide or that the wife is simply bored with her husband and wants another. These misconceptions are what gives single men a bad name. Guys, seriously, as a woman I can tell you just because you get me excited in bed does not mean im falling for you or I just cant wait until I have you again, it does not mean that I do not get excited with my husband and it does not mean I will be with you when he is not there. I am not a booty call, I am not here to give you a safe ticket to adultry, I am a swinger, I believe in the value of a close friendship with others that you can be completely open, some of the best friendships I have ever had were with swingers that wanted FRIENDSHIP and showed RESPECT. In my humble opinion that is my and only MY definition of a swinger. This statement is not meant to represent any other swingers aside from myself so please do not imply that my statements are a canvas for the lifestyle, there was a question, this is my answer and opinion.

Small Admission Fee - Come join us but pay a small fee - God I love a bashing party and with nothing to do can't resist jumping in. Even though I love to be a smart ass sorry Dave I can't bash you, you did nothing wrong by defending yourself against this garbage post and have harmed me in no way so maybe another time. As for the rest of you that have spoken wisdom and given me the right to express mine I thank you. Now Mav I would like to know how your created such a following with your words of wisdom or maybe it's the smell of horse shit that attracts them. You have made a total of 6 comments. First Comment I'm all about helping cover hotel costs but "bring a bottle and a small admission fee of $50" seems rather excessive. Shouldn't the costs of the room be divvied up evenly? This seems like prostitution to me. OK I was the dumb one here thinking it was a legitimate question and answered it not knowing you were about to name and judge someone you had no right to. Now your second comment I love and my favorite reason to bash anyone that chooses to make newbies feel stupid then feed them garbage that makes no sense.. I wonder how many good people left the site thanks to you. I understand newbies can say some really dumb shit at times but unlike you I try and give a real answer GILDETHRILL wrote I would say $50 is fine for single guys! To help pay for the room cuz all your really going to be doing is fucking the woman that come and 90% of the time men out number the woman! But if there was a party that the woman out numbered the men, then the woman should pay to cover costs! Spoken like a total nube. Member since August 2014. Mav you said. No, it is not all right to discriminate. If you like that scene, go for it. Or you could have some class and hold out for the couple/single/group that truly appreciates you. WTF are you saying he is discriminating against women, men, money? Did you tell him anything that made sense at all? Now my answer to you GILDETHRILL would be why don't you do one for yourself and tell all the women for fifty bucks,,,, no wait for free they can have you. Well I think you can guess within one how many will show up. See women don't think like us men and have the urge to stick anything that will spread their legs. It also is why an event charges double for men and free for women, it evens things up a little, if it was the other way around a lot of single guys would be standing around with dick in hand wondering where the women were. Now number three and your legal advice all I have to say is next time I need legal advice I would ask the horse your sitting on before you. WOW! Never saw the lawsuit angle coming. I'm not surprised often but DAMN! Totally got me. Just remember everyone, the single most effective defense against libel is THE TRUTH! You can't be sued for saying what someone ACTUALLY did. So, feel free to post away what was said between people. And notice I am talking in generalities. Not giving legal advice, just common knowledge. Your fourth comment came after SheLove wrote Utah people are such tight asses with there money. Where can you get layed for under $50. Really. Grow some balls. You said SheLove, it isn't about the money. It is about sex for money. That is called prostitution. Do you not see that? The lifestyle is not about paying for sex. It is about consenting adults having fun for the sake of having fun. No money involved. Now I'm a little confused because I consider sex a type of entertainment. So I'm trying to think of something fun that wouldn't cost me a dime. Lets see solitaire na need to buy cards, wait after some thought my sock puppet will always join me for free, O shit I forgot to wash it last time and that costs money. So Mav I have to ask what exactly is sex to you anyway, your profile says nothing of what your willing to GIVE a lady to make it worth her time. And so you understand I'm not talking about money. Do you have a big dick, know how to use your tongue or fingers. Or do you just roll over on your back and tell her to please you because it's a womans job and not worth a cent anyway. Next you said Now he is advertising the orgy on craigslist!! Come on now it that the best news from craigs you have to tell us. What about this one did you post it? Its late, any ladies interested in some black cock tonight?8/7 - m4w 25 (University of Utah ) Then comes this piece of work OK, I've had a change of mind based on the opinions presented here. CrazyDave is a businessman like other posts and hosts. I cannot hold that against him. His tactics, well, that is questionable. But others are doing it as well. So, go forth and party CrazyDave. $50 isn't that bad off considering the costs of other parties. A Little Magic: if you DEMAND that I pay for everything to EXPECT sex, then yes, that is prostitution. If you ask me to pay for everything in 2014, then we would never go out. There isn't anything less sexy than a woman wanting the guy to pay for everything. Hike up that skirt and join 2014. You insult Dave, anyone that posts, hosts of parties others. Then called a very sweet lady that has foot the bill for a guy more times than you know a PROSTITUTE. What I don't get is how without a single nice good word about anyone you managed to put together a wonderful fallowing of perfect swingers, maybe you should think about a group of your own called bashing swingers enter at your own risk. If only I wasn't tired I could comment about their worthless bashing and speculation. [em]Emo_60[/em]

Why swingers are happier. - - The larger question looms as to whether or not those who take anything EVIL posts as something other than sarcasm are happier.

Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - [quote=HT51210]We had a hard time buying tickets when the event first posted (and do meet the age requirement). Got some weird error and sent BMSHELL a screenshot to see if they'd seen it before. Not sure what was going on with it. We gave up on it after a while. Oh well, maybe next time .... :)[/quote] You can just come to keys on main with our group. It won't be a huge lifestyle party but a select fun younger sexy couples

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - Shit before long we're gonna have to start being built with Two cocks just to keep up! =)

If you give it a try, it don't mean you're bi !!!!!! - - judging from some of the negative reaction men get from saying they would at least like to try bi it is not wonder you won't see a lot of men admitting it. The stigma and hostility it brings out in some must really make it hard for some men to even consider it. It is a shame there is a double standard and that folks can't be open minded enough to allow those who want to explore do so without being ostrasized. What open minded people should keep in mind is that the whole lifestyle is about pleasure and having fun. If it is not your cup of tea then I am sure nobody will force you to it. But you shouldn't condemn others because they do. After all I am sure vanilla folks condemn swingers and I am sure the swingers dislike being condemned. Why they would they in turn condemn those doing something they don't like? I mean yeah if something is forced on you then condemn the person. But if they don't do something to bother you then let them do what they want.

Where are all the private parties? - where are the private parties. - hi there. We have also been looking for a party. If you look up kentcheney on this site, he may have some suggestions. We are very new at going to parties and so we may try a few meet and greets this weekend... plus we want to find some couples to talk to, who may have been to hedo11. We are thinking of going there, or a place like that, next Spring or Summer and want to get ideas on where to go, how they are, etc.. We also may be going to habits tonight. Another couple emailed us and said some swingers go there, and the club is having it's one year anniversary. We have never been there, however, we also have free time right now and decided to get out... we may even try the party that kentcheney is having this weekend - if we get our nerves to drop down a notch.. hope this helps M & D

Hot Tubbing - Interesting Read.. - what's next, I suspect there will be a report that states swingers are at a high risk for sore crotches, tongues, and muscles on sunday mornings. Simples