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Swinging capitol of USA - What state is the Swinging Capitol of USA and why? - Actually I would have to disagree wi Mr Evil. Although everyone brings up Utahs alcohol laws as the main argument. Although many question the laws here there are many states with more and stricter laws than us. The only one possibly as an argument is the 3.2% ABV beer content which is ridiculous. Anyway off point.
Perhaps that many people LDS or otherwise have just come to an enlightened understanding of what is meant by adultery and that it is not as deviant as people assume to want multiple partners as nature has hardwired into us over Thousands of years of evolution, and church or no church we just want to have a good time and party.
As for personal experiences during my month long workation in Hawaii I looked for swingers to play with and even being in the capital and most populated area of Hawaii their swinger scene from what I could find was non existant at best.
An out of this world (or state) encounter - swinging parties - [quote=UTCPL]The problem we have noticed in Utah is that there seems to be far more wanna be swingers than actual swingers. There are quite a few who think if the girls kiss or show their titties then they have had a great swinging evening. To us it is a lifestyle not a fad & the cool in thing to pretend to do. We almost always avoid house parties & private parties for this reason. In fact we almost prefer finding new couples & singles in a regular club & converting them over to swinging over meeting playmates here because it's easier & usually less drama. Not to mention it helps weed out the wanna be's & the ones who used a 20 year old photo that was taken when they still had teeth or before they put on that extra 125 lbs. [/quote]
Hmmm..sounds like you may be hitting the WRONG house parties...We have had a blast at the ones we have gone to...and no...not just girl kissing..and flashing titties...nope!!!
Sexy swingers closer to our age - 20-30 year old sexy swingers - Glad we are already friends! We will see you soon hopefully!
can we swing and still not be in sin ? - - For what it's worth here is my 2 cents on the subject.
I agree with Don on what he said earlier in this thread. The entire concept of sin was created by the religious leaders as a form of control. Every organized religion serves 3 primary purposes; 1) to explain the why's and how's of creation, 2) to give a foundation of how to live, 3) to give comfort about death. From the beginning of time religious leaders have used the power of religion as a means of controlling the masses to do what the leaders wanted or at least thought was best.
Judao-Christian and Islamic religions went a step farther and created the concept of sin as a method of control. They created a list of commandments and declared that to violate these was to be in sin. Some sins were of greater import than others but it all equalled to the same thing, commit too many or even one of the wrong ones and you would be barred from from enjoyment and peace offered in the afterlife.
So to answer the original question here, Can you swing and not be in Sin? Absolutely you can. Sin cannot exist seperate of heavily regulated and controlled organized religion. Since Religion itself is a fabrication of man, then so Sin is also a fabrication. I don't know too many swingers that particularly care for anyone else telling them what to do, how to do it, or whom they can do it with, regardless of the area of their life. Especially when it comes to their sex life.
Friend collectors or swingers - - We have a handful of friends now. We keep them because we would like to meet them, but we haven't reached out to all of them yet. If we reach out and they don't respond we delete them.
New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - Smartflirts,
There are certainly some things to look at and make sure we won't have too many problems. I think there are a number of ways to get around any issues. What happens on a private residence is up to those who own the property. I think this is one of the reasons it would have to be a private club, members only. What consenting adults choose to do isn't illegal in a venue like a club any more than it is illegal in a private residence. The trick, as I understand it, is that the venue cannot be a public venue because then you run into public exposure and indecency laws. I could be wrong, and I would have to find someone who understands these kind of laws... the question is... who would actually know... lol.
You are correct, there will certainly be some challenges, but I think they can be worked through.
As for your idea of renting a house or something like that, I have thought about the same thing and it may be a good idea. Not a fix for what is needed in a club, but it is a start.
Freyja4u,
Thank you for the ideas, we were planning on themed rooms. Perhaps you can email us with ideas for those themed rooms. What have you seen at places you have been to?
4funandmore,
Could you email us with things you liked and didn't like from clubs you have been to? What things would you like to see that you haven't seen or have seen and would like to see here?
Hello summer - Swingers couple party - [quote=Gitterdone]Who said anything about an asset? What makes women's filters different than men? If I decide to identify as a female do I need to be sponsored? I'm asking because I'm sure more people would like to know. I have been to parties and I've seen both single males and couples get kicked out. Both sex's can be rowdy when alcohol and sex are involved. Are you talking about the aggressive instinctive behavior than men have? If so, there's a lot of guys there to put them in their place. I'm not a social bug and I'll sit in a corner and mind my own business and only talk when spoken to but thats my personality at any event.[/quote]
Probably better to just go back to my original answer... if you have to ask, you're probably the reason why...
Orgy Party by Swingers Circle in Las Vegas - - Thank you for all the comments so far! Seems to be so hard to find good swinger activities anymore unless you are in the "IN" crowd! We've been "OUT" for awhile and just getting back in :)
Any swingers advise for Spain? - Swing clubs in Madrid - Well, crap. Sorry, we live in Germany and know where they are here, but have not been to the Spain locale yet. Let us know if you guys head to Deutschland.
What is up with Utah?! - Swingers in Utah and nowhere else? - There's a lot of great things and people to do here in Utah. Brigham Young was correct when he said "This is the place" to all his numerous wives and children on the swings.
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