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Singles who are married and cheating - - JenandBrandon: Spot on! If you can't discuss this with your spouse, 1 Don't do it! or 2 End it and move on! Don't drag them down into the gutter of lies deceit and broken trust.
Blueeysinutah: You are honest, and discrete. You're right your kids don't need to see this. But the fact that you are honest with your husband, whether he agrees with you or not (as you are separated and seeking dissolution of your marriage) shows the kind of integrity, so quickly evaporating from our larger society, that is to be commended.
T4REAL69: If you mean to imply that having open sexual relations with others means that as swingers we have no right to define any morals, there are plenty of places in which you may live in your sainted paradise. In our experience the greatest thing we have found among REAL swingers is integrity. This is one of the greatest and most anciently recognized virtues. Without that societies based on social contract of any kind will revert to total lawless brutality. The concept of "The Rule of Law" is a social contract, and has no hold where integrity is absent.
As for our part, we do take self proclaimed singles at their word with the honor system. We appreciate the honesty of those who do tell us about their situation, and decline any opportunities to play with them, as we don't need any of that kind of drama (buckshot anyone?) Even for those who are in the lifestyle and have a "hall pass" we will make a best effort to confirm with all parties that it is ok before we do any play. We do not feel it our place to "out" anyone whom we have discovered as a cheater, as this is something between them, with whomever they are espoused, and with whomever they are involved. If push comes to shove, we will however not hesitate to "throw them under the bus."
St. Pete FL... Anyone out there!?!?!? - - In Tampa there is club Elite and also Eyez Wide Shut. To be honest - this website is not the best for FL swingers, although I bought a lifetime membership a while ago when it seemed to be more robust with Floridians in the lifestyle. There are a TON of swingers in FL, and Tampa is not the exception - you just need to find the right avenues to find the right people. A few years ago this site lead me to my first house party with multiple couples and it was just north of Tampa, so I still check it from time to time!
Spitroast - Mfm - [quote=COUPLE4_U]Single male swingers,,,, Really doesn’t make any sense to me[/quote]
And your profile says looking for cpl and SINGLE FEMALES…
Age differences - How do you handle it - We look to make some sort of a friendship with anyone we play with so we feel the best chance that would happen is if they were close to our ages but we have found many exceptions to that theory. We are just playing the odds that a connection is most commonly found with someone of similar ages.
The reason for this thread was because of conversation we were involved in at a party recently that we attended. People of all ages were there. I was sitting with a few older ladies, who I must say were very attractive, but then they started talking about all of their ailments and it almost makes me afraid that I might accidently hurt them if we played. I want to provide pleasure, not pain.
Also a few were saying they went to a big party and it was mostly younger couples who were dirty dancing and flirting but not really playing and they felt the younger swingers are not as sexual as the older people are. One rationalized it by saying that maybe the fear of pregnancy is the issue.
We try to be ourselves at all times and if we find common interests with a couple younger or older then us, great. Since we are somewhere in the middle we can go higher or lower then our ages. We would go higher then our ages first because of the experience and maturity factors hoping their experience will provide us some fun and share their knowledge with us. We wonder what those at either end of the spectrum think and what is their biggest concerns. Great input so far from everyone so thank you for that.
Joe and Lori
KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - "it felt like 5th grade and not getting picked for a team"
Divorce rates - How do we compare - We are a bit of an older couple with a different prospective. Amoung our swinging friends and aquaintances if we were to generalize it is that they are on a second marriage, have been married for 10 years or so and are very happy. Amoung our non-swinging friends they are on their first second, or third marriage and are generally unhappy. I would put the divorce rate amoung the non-swingers at more than double that of the swingers over a 10 year period.
The thin line in the sand. - Where does "cheating" begin? - I wrote this somewhere else...but hopefully it fits here.
"Fidelity.
What is it?
Most of you (some of you) might think I'm gonna come off as a hypocrite on this one. But please, bear with me.
Fidelity is a key issue with me in relationships. It's one of the only lines that exist that is an instant kill switch. I've been in relationships where I've had to pull that switch and watch the bodies fall. Then again, I look at the insane stance I take in my "Sexual Play" life.
Swingers.
Kink that plays with submissives.
Dangerous, flirtatious chat.
Both Domme and I have regular communication with past lovers.
Yet...faithful.
How does that make sense you ask?
Even when "Swinging" or involved in Kink "play" we always play together. Our communications are open. And in the end it all comes down to one very simple thing.
Trust.
So where does that leave Fidelity?
As a personal choice between two consenting adults."
That's my line...hope it helps!
-Mr. K_T
BUSTED! Your Kids Found Out Your Swingers. Now What? - - oh boy. Ok, we have a friend, his adult daughter knows because she's a swinger and stumbled across their profile on a site like this! They are fine with it. Obviously our kids don't know. They are way to young. And if they ever did somehow find out, I wouldn't discuss it with them. ITA with the vanilla sex comment, I wouldn't discuss *my* sexual activities with my kids. They do not need to know. I will dicuss sex with my kids, when the time is right, but not what daddy and I do.
My brother does know that we are swingers and that I am bi. I think he's okay with it. The Mr told him and I haven't heard him say shit about it.
The Mr's mom may have a clue. She was digging through our trunk looking for tools to help Mr fix the car and found his stash of "out for a night" condoms. He's had the V done, so obviously its not because we're trying not have more children.
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - SexyRiders and MoxyGurl: We also drive a new Camaro. 2010 2LT model, red jewel and I love it! Hard to believe I've had it 2.5 yrs already. We're totally down for a cruise sometime. Anyone else broken in the 'backseat' of their camaro--talk about difficult!! And we're both just 5'6 and 5'7!
What really defines a TRUE swinger? - - [quote=SHAZAMER]Other people may or may not define you as a swinger. But in your heart, you define yourself as a swinger. And really, who gives a fuck what anyone else thinks? I love single swingers. I love married swingers. I love hot sexy snooty swingers. I just want you to love me too...... with your sex parts. ;)
Nibbles & Licks,
Monika [/quote]
Suddenly I'm a little turned on. :D
xox
Tammy
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