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Question - do you talk about other swingers? - I think most of us have talked about who we have met before, but there is a line that shouldn't be crossed when talking about others. Like Canitb said...it will come back on them. I think it is nice to hear that another person has "recommended" someone...LOL Isn't that kind of what the real and VIP seal is? If someone is GREAT to "hang out" with, hell I want to meet them. I mean, we NEVER talk bad about someone, but it's good to talk nicely about others. Or am I wrong?

Professionals - - Some of our best friends work in retail and construction trades. Some are "professionals." But it IS relevant to how we interract and what everyone's expectations and comfort levels are. If we were construction workers or farmers (for example), we wouldn't give a rat's ass who knew we were swingers. But our livelihoods could and would be dramatically impacted if it became common knowledge that we are swingers. This means a few things are done differently than they would be otherwise: 1. No public face pics. 2. No public names or detailed descriptions. 3. "You show us yours...we'll show you ours" policy with locals. 4. 99.9% "no locals" play policy. 5. When we do entertain locally, it must be discreet. If we go to a public place, there is no cross-couple PDA. If it were not for our status in the community as "professionals" being a matter of eating and living indoors for us, we wouldn' have ANY of these guidelines. We know couples who have met couples publicly who are NOT "professionals" who simply could not respect their boundaries and risked their reputations (thus livelihoods) with inappropriate behavior even after being asked not to. It freaking happens! And it is one of the gravest forms of disrespect/disregard for someone to do this. You think I'm gonna walk into the convenience store where your wife works and stick my tongue down her throat in front of her boss? NOT! And it's the same thing for us when couples disrespect our discretion boundaries. It could force us into bankruptcy. If you have a problem with that and think we're snobs because of it, screw you! Please don't contact us. :@ Rather than say all that in a profile, we tend to just play nice and say "we're an attractive professional couple..." ;)

swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - I have found that people have muddied up the forums with baggage. Your point is well made WAAA1101, I think that a swing site should be just that, not room for venting crap. I don't mean to sound indifferent about the massacre, war or such but I don't think a swing site forum is the place for it, nor is it a place to tolerate! Forums are not garbage disposal!!

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Bunny, Pelvis gave it away eh? J&J, Let's hang soon. -D-

Swingers - a couples only lifestyle? - Are singles considered to be swingers? - T4 - I thought your response was spot-on (as close to definitive as possible). As other posters have indicated, getting common agreement on something like this is futile. Heck, there isn't even agreement among women as to whether bigger is better. Swinging is in the eyes of the beholder?

What to wear to a swingers party??? - - Wear whatever makes you comfortable ladies wear something sexy guys don't show up in suit coat and tie or you will be the only one there like that ! Sports shirt and sports pants for a a guy is the norm. Clothing is not really a big deal if its a true swingers party clothes won't be on that long anyways lol. Norm&Sharon

Poly-Swingers - Moving beyond FWB relationship - [quote=T4REAL69]I for one am still not clear what the input is the OP is seeking (and yes I realize he asked this of poly couples)? OP are you asking how you should proceed in the relationship seeing how feelings have developed to a deeper level then just the casual? [/quote] Just curious as to what other Non monogamous couples' have experienced when strong emotional bonds to people other than one's spouse has emerged.

Has swinging changed? - - We know there are always a lot of noobs so this might not be the best question for them but for those of you who've been doing this a while, has the lifestyle changed? If so, in what way and has it changed for the better? We started swinging MANY years ago. In fact we were still in college! Now we've never been really hard core swingers and have taken many breaks over the years...sometimes for years; when we've had other stuff going on in our lives and/or we needed time for ourselves. But we've seen some fairly drastic shifts in the whole vibe in the lifestyle especially the past 5 years or so and wondered if anyone else has noticed this?

Gangbang - - I been to a few. It's always been done by close friends so the trust factor was always solid from the get-go. A few drinks...laugh a bit...loosen up. Once the woman was blind-folded and we all took turns touching her. She knew all of us that were there, but still...the thought of her not knowing who was doing what at which time was a turn on to her. She was very open to anything, which was fun. So, yeah...good times. But I think as a single male it's important to understand that yes...it's great getting your rocks off on a woman that loves the attention. That is what I think makes it stimulating for all involved...but I've seen a few guys freeze up over the whole concept when they realize whatever fantasy they been imagining in their head is about to start in front of their faces. LOL Reality slaps a few guys in the face and they realize they can't either a) deal with it or b) can't perform. So I like what Trigeek36 said...if you want a certain number, invite double that. Some are going to have issues. I always liked attached women so the fun of it was just that...all of us having a good time with no-strings. The cool thing is...some of the best people I ever met are swingers. We can always fuck and then go shoot pool afterwards...or vice versa. LOL The main thing is to remember this (single guys)...a guy loves having his woman banged by others...she ain't gonna start dating you. Respect them, buy them both alcohol on a regular basis and you will have a great time for a LONG time. Not sure if that answered any of FOX'S questions but I hope that may have helped somebody. :)

Vegas next month - - we can only speak for what we like: zumanity and absinthe are fun and SEXY. copperfield: was great, chris angel = HORRIBLE carrot top: we've seen 3 times, and he updates his show regularly. you will be pleasantly surprised. gordy browne: we've seen 3 times funny and a great variety show any cirque' show is worth seeing, dress up and have a fun date night together. laugh factory & brad garrett's comedy clubs are fun, but really not any better than the cheaper ones you can find @ the discount ticket booths. free concerts on the weekend @ Fremont experience, + great place to people watch! you could go to any of the topless pools, but you DO have to pay to get in. best value is buying a lounger because it comes with food and drink. couples oasis: a private swingers club, huge variety of people that go artisan hotel is a fun and sexy boutique hotel, not well known, but a lot better than any of the swingers clubs. do NOT stay there if you want peace and quiet. western sahara: sex & stripper shops for fun & sexy clothing we go to vegas monthly because we live nearby, and we stay somewhere different each time. sometimes down town, sometimes on the strip, and sometimes @ a Hilton, or embassy suites. for us, we don't do the topless pools anymore. kinda a "been there, done that" thing for us. also because of the extra cost to get in. it's been over 4 years since we've been to couples oasis. but the rest of our opinions are very current. we discovered we are getting older, ouch!! we went to Omnia, and HATED the synth dance music. we prefer r&b and 80 & 90's rock and roll. to get in was $50.00, drinks were $17-22 each, water $7.00. go to Tao, the food is great, and when you are ready to dance, you bypass the long line outside by just going upstairs. if you don't get to vegas often, go to the strip, TONZ of things to see have extra time, go down town, go to pawn stars, vamped, capo's, etc..