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patriot or not - pledge - I've been reading, with some interest, the pontifications and protestations on the issues of this post. Some talk about morals some about duty some about apothy of people. I 'll ask: What is worals? Are swingers moral if society finds it averant? Is this country based on good Christian principals? Is this current government or administration trying to turn this country into a theocracy? This ccountry was founded so that everyone should have the right to live their life in their own manner, to be free to pursue whatever they wish so long as it does not interfere with others rights and liberties, and to be happy in those rights.
As for religion, here I go again quoting the father of our constitution, Thomas Jefferson said; "I have recently been examining all known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition (Christianity) one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology."
God's be damned, government be damned as well and if we do nothing to oppose bad government we are not patriotic, we are fools who will watch our country drown in it's own bile.. We can talk forever about what is and is not good but until we live what is good and moral, (morality is that principle which basically says "do no harm" like the doctors pledge) but until we apply true morality to our own lives and speak boldly to government which rules in fear and demogogery and to business which thinks that God is a dollar or a yen or any other form of currency, we will be be responsible for our own plight....
Just a thought or two... Since we do not study history or at least it's tennons we will be forced to repeat the mistakes made before....
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - Today up towards Solitude...
closed doors? - - Ha ha to the comment about swingers parties being one big orgy. We have been to several parties and none of them have been that :( If anyone knows where they have those, please let us know:p
Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - We are thinking about making our first trip out to unspoken tonight, has anyone been as of late and know if people are actually going out there?
On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - What cracks me up about the "moral majority" here is that most of them secretly are into all kinds of stuff. This is now the number one state for paid porn subscriptions !!!!!! That tells me that all those horny old men that make the laws here are the ones living in secret. It is so sad :( My husband and I have lived all over the US and love the on premise clubs. Would love to see one here in SLC. But like everyone has stated, you will have to really look into the laws and how to go about it the right way.
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - We are also interested been looking for couples that might take us under their wing. Show us the ropes so to say
how do i get my girlfriend into lifestyle? - - I assume you two watch XXX porn. Does any porn with multi partners, gal/gal seem to make her more juicy or hot after? this might be a clue. Also dont forget to tell her that this is not some line you just one day have to decide to jump over and it means you have sex with others. TO us it just meant stopping to say hey! What is wrong with nudity? What is wrong seeing others having sex or being seen? This is all normal and a big part of our lives. Why is it so taboo?
Perhaps all she would consider is nudity. Near the start of our adventure we choose to go to desires resort a "clothing optional" beach place South of Cancun. IT does have some 30% on average swingers. But a swinger means many different levels. There you have no pressure and lots of fun even if you choose to wear clothes but it is easy in an atmosphere like that 2k miles from home to let at least some of the clothes come off and see how that feels.. Then seeing all the sexy folks going to dinner dressed up from body paint to stuff you think of as night wear is really a turn on. When she enjoys the mind blowing sex back in the privacy of your room she will either get the interest or not. But first I would think you need to just man up and be able to talk about stuff or this gal is not for you!
Swinging parties - Ice breaker/sex games - I still have not heard if anyone has any of these games. The ones that I was interested in are
DV8 Swingers.
The game of Lifestyle.
Let's fool around.
Dirty Deeds.
Does anyone here have any of these games I would like to see what they are like before I buy.
Is anybody on this site for fucking real or just a bunch of tease - - So just as everything else in life folks have preferences. So what you maybe attracted to is not attracted to you. We get this all the time probably because of age, who knows maybe its his beard. We have found the swingers in Salt Lake to be very friendly and we find we get responses pretty easy in our age group. Comparatively speaking we have never had a response on this web site from anyone we have written to in 4 years in Houston where we live. Good thing we spend about 8 weeks in the Salt Lake area.
Swingers in a vanilla bar... - - In my experience, try to ask an innocent question, as in, 'Have you ben to *insert name of local swing club*?'
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