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KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - Maybe KUTV can send a techie or two this way to get the site moving a little faster. That would be worth a sexual act in of itself.
SWING CLUBS - - This seems like a pretty standard thing for a swingers site and would be a welcome addition, especially if there's a chance to rate and/or offer comments on clubs. This would probably also be a big help in getting more couples validated, if there's a common place to meet someone. Actually, anything in the "info" section would be nice. Administrators, any idea when some of the proposed additions will be made? :)
UNIVERSAL "SWINGER" SIGN - UNIVERSAL "SWINGER" SIGN - Is there a Universal sign for Swingers? And if there is not, there should be! How many times have you been in a bar or out with your partner and spotted a nice looking couple and wondered???Are they??? What can you say without embarrassing yourself or them by saying, "hey are you in the lifestyle?"
We did some looking and found this website http://www.swingrings.com/index.html take a look and tell your friends it would be great if it worked....AND WE ARE NO WAY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PRODUCT just like the idea so we all can quit guessing.
If you know of anything tell the world.
Just looking for other couples happy with super soft and no swap - There must be more of us out there? - [quote=BADBOY8P]This subject is whats making it hard for us real swingers to find real friends !!!! I dont think they are trying to be mean by saying face book is a good place for ya they are just being honest ...... But I hope u find what your looking for dont really see much fun in it though !!! But each there own ... Just sayin ...
Thanx J
[/quote]"real" swingers? posts like this is the kind that will drive others that aren't as "hardcore" away from the lifestyle forever! Look up swinging..Google, Yahoo..whatever..and read as many definitions as you can find..there are many facets to the lifestyle, not just yours. And just because something isnt "fun" to You doesnt mean it might not be fun to someone else. Maybe the idea of full swap isnt fun to this couple that posted this topic, ever thought of that?
Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what.
I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused..
One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on.
You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden..
Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement.
In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that...
Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... .
So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them.
Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination....
We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced...
I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..
Cuckolding - Interesting article from some outsiders, what do yo - - I read the article and from a swinging standpoint don't consider encouraging and enjoying my wife's enjoyment of her sexuality as anything even approaching cuckoldry. I'm sure some vanillas might see it differently thru the lenses of their "vanilla goggles" but swinging is definitely NOT cuckoldry. The sad thing is that (yes, I have to go there) some single men view coupled male swingers as nothing more than cucks and often act accordingly and thus perpetuate the dreaded SM stigma. Don't get me wrong. There definitely are cucks in the lifestyle and to some the "hotwife" style of play approaches if not at times reaches the level of cuckoldry. But the vast majority of male swingers are definitely not cucks and simply enjoy the fact that their partners are free to explore their sexuality and "get off", if you will, on the fact that their partner is turned on and experiencing their sexual desires to the fullest.
On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - Another idea, probably bad:
Park City has a free bus system. During the summer at least, there are lots of places that owners and agencies want to rent out. With this economy, some of these places may even be empty during the winter.
People could park in the parking structure near downtown or even out at Newpark and take the bus over to the condo for the party. No complaints from neighbors about parking; cops would have to take pictures of every single car in the parking garage or the Newpark parking lot.
Go turn on Oprah - re:swingers - We missed it, wish we had known it was on.
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - It sounds like a great idea, we too are also looking for people that we can trust and let it all go. Count us in.!
Swingers gone bad?? - - That is just SO wrong! I mean having fantasies is great, but to do what she did to make her fantasy come true, its just not right. And for him to just let it happen, what in the world was he thinking? Can we say "roleplaying"?
To me, this is a good example of why not everyone can or should be in this lifestyle. And also a good reminder that the key to success in the lifestyle is communication and perhaps a better grasp on reality.
-SG
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