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Why are there so many swingers from Utah? - - sorry...i had to post just to get simplyhung's pic off there before he poked someone's eye out! lol
On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - 'Church' Busted for Prostitution Takes Religious Freedom Too Far
Church Not What the Constitution Meant
By Isa-Lee Wolf
Takeaways
COMMENTARY | Sometimes you just have to give people credit for creativity. Phoenix police have busted a church called the Phoenix Goddess Temple, alleging that it was actually a front for prostitution.
According to CNN, authorities claim churchgoers received sexual services in exchange for "donations." Twenty men and women have been arrested in regard to the church's practices of so-called "neo-tantric" healing; police are still seeking 17 more individuals.
What makes this case so interesting is, if the allegations are true, the great lengths of planning undertaken to skirt the laws against prostitution. People tend to believe the First Amendment serves as a blanket protection of religious groups, shielding them from the general laws of the state when laws and beliefs are in conflict. Unfortunately for this group, that interpretation of freedom of religion does not always hold true.
Glenn Hudson, a club owner in Dallas with the same perspective, also tried to get creative, calling his alleged nightclub/drug den a "spiritual organization," reports CBS News Dallas/Fort Worth. After his bust for running an unlicensed dance club, he claimed it was actually a youth outreach program, getting the young people of Dallas engaged with their spirituality through dance. Meanwhile, four undercover visits by police yielded 15 separate drug buys.
But the Fenix/Darkside wasn't Hudson's only supposed religious group. He also owned a spiritual organization/swinger's club called The Playground, where people could allegedly watch pornography and have sex. The Playground garnered the city's attention for being housed in a building with a "certificate of occupancy for a church, mosque or synagogue." Dallas ordered both clubs permanently closed.
Such creativity in using freedom of religion to shield a group from law enforcement can have tragic results. In a much darker example, polygamous sect leader Warren Jeffs sought the protection of freedom of religion to avoid consequences for his abuses of children . His lawyers argued before his trial and he now claims in his motion for a new trial that his "marriages" to children as young as 12 were protected by the Constitution, according to Reuters. Jeffs was convicted and sentenced to life in prison.
Religion is addressed in the first clause of the Bill of Rights for good reason. The framers of the Constitution knew what harm religious tyranny caused, and how the beliefs of the minority could easily be trampled by the majority.
But trying to hide unsavory acts under the mantle of freedom of religion is an affront to all Americans, the religious and the non-religious. The religion clause is meant to protect that which is most personal, most fundamental: the individuality of a belief system. While arguments like those of the Phoenix Goddess Temple; The Playground; and, particularly, Warren Jeffs, wave the banner of religious freedom, the claims are hollow.
Worst of all, manipulation of the spirit of the religion clause is an abuse of the gift of a freedom once unknown in the world.
Logan - Vasa gyms - [quote=Utahldscouple][quote=EVILDOERS]As to the second part of your question, we haven't actually played AT the gym since the old Sports Forum in Woods Cross was open. We used to occasionally sneak into the spin room when the gym wasn't crowded and do naughty stuff. Only once with another couple tho. [em]Emo_82[/em] [/quote]Thats hot. We should create a swingers only gym 😀![/quote]
YAAAS! With hardcore porn in the Cardio Cinema! [em]Emo_12[/em]
Just between Us - Is there anything that you don't do with a swinging partner that you keep just between you and your partner? - The obvious ones Love and unprotected sex! Then we will do Anal and that is something left just for us! Really dirty dirty talk tends to stay between us too.
:z Other then that we are pretty open to almost everything else with other swingers! We feel that every couple if they think about it has things that they only do with their partner its just some of it you never really notice it until you sit and think really hard about it.
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=UTBIPLAYMATE][quote=EDANY0178][quote=UTCPL][quote=UTBIPLAYMATE]We would love to try both DP and DVP. It's one of my favorite fantasies!! ;)[/quote]
We've done dvp a few times & love it. Never
dp though. [/quote] Would love to help you out with that[/quote]
We would love to have someone to show us the ropes!! ;)[/quote] would love to sexies
On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - [quote=2INWVC]I'm probably betraying my ignorance here.
But what about West Wendover? (The Nevada side) Or maybe Mesquite?
I think there should be some houses there that the owners or banks are desperate to sell. Heck, the cops in either place might welcome some extra tax revenue.[/quote]
Would definitely have to agree. West Wendover would be better and more successful. Less population to "spy" on the club. Only 1.5 from SLC. The "Out of State, Out of Mind" philosophy would apply well there. That is probably why the Vegas clubs do so well.
Build it in SLC or anywhere near SLC and you will have problems from the "moral majority." Another possibility may be a ranch somewhere in a remote area close to SLC like Grantsville. But with the Wendover solution, at least there are hotels available.
Mav
Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - I think there are a number of definitions of "moral".
I've always tried to live a good clean, law-abiding life - one guided by the Golden Rule.
I've never stolen from anyone, I've never killed anyone, and I've never knowingly done anything to hurt anyone.
As it applies to the Swinging Lifestyle, let me put it this way:
I may "fuck" your wife - but I'd never "fuck" you.
So tell me, does that make me moral or immoral?
Young Swingers Myspace Swinger Party@Club Hedonism - - 35?
Its your party and you can cry if you want to. Oh thats right most under 35 couples would'nt remeber that!
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Bunny,
Pelvis gave it away eh?
J&J,
Let's hang soon.
-D-
Meeting new swingers? - Where to meet them? - We have met most via the web. The first couples we met were at a club but since then is all the web.. We have also noticed that a lot of local couples say they want to meet but when presented with a genuine couple that is local (same town or next one over) we try to meet and then get the
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