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Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - Personally I think you might be a little too eager (can't blame you, we all were when we started) and pushing just a little too hard to make her fantasy a reality. Rather than trying to find a way to get around the "Catch 22" of her fantasy maybe just explore it more verbally and see if it evolves into some kind of scenario that she is comfortable with that more easily can happen in the real world. The most successful swingers we know, ourselves included, arrived at where they are by being open and supportive of each other's fantasies and desires without forcing them in any way. In other words, be patient, explore your fantasies verbally and maybe role play, a LOT, with each other before you jump into anything that either of you isn't quite ready for. You might be surprised as you fantasize openly and honestly how your fantasies might evolve and become something that you eventually can and will make a reality. You know your wife better than anyone and maybe she does need a little nudge but most of the swingers we've known over the years who've crashed and burned did so because one partner pushed the limits too fast and didn't wait for the more hesitant partner to catch up. In our case we were quite surprised and what our fantasies morphed into when we really dug deep and talked about the truly deviant (by local standards anyway-lol) aspects of our fantasies. Sorry, I know that's probably not the kind of advice you were hoping for but it's been our observation over a rather lengthy swinging career. Another thought, if you're bound and determined to make your first swinging experience a MFM, is to find a guy who is okay with just watching you two play or maybe getting involved in some soft swinging...i.e. back rubs and or touching but no intercourse. We were soft swap for the first year or two of our swinging life and it was great fun and took the pressure off until we were ready to take the next step. Best of luck! edit- Sorry about what now seems like a long rambling response. In my defense it was pre-coffee. [em]Emo_79[/em]

Keeping safe - Single females staying safe - [quote=EVILDOERS]Hell, we've had guys write us and ask to meet them and their wives (without disclosing that we're swingers) and suggest that we get the wife really drunk and then have sex with them.[/quote]That is just plain awful. What a nightmarish scenario for everyone involved but the guy getting his rocks off watching his wife raped.

ARE THEY REAL? - - I really don't understand why we have little luck with COUPLES. We are a REAL couple, who really swing, and really want to meet people. So thinking on it I have come up with a couple of reasons why. Maybe its because we are NOT interested in single fems? I have noticed that the majority of females on here are BI, and I am not, so I think that could have an impact on our success with having couples want to meet us. I think the MAJOR problem we have had is with Geography, we are down in in No-swingers land and to make the drive to SLC to meet someone who "doesn't play on the first date" or "wants to be friends first" is just not going to happen. Not sluts, but then again, yes we are! We are in this for the Sex I'm not gonna lie to ya! We don't want to make 2 trips to SLC on a maybe. I'm not going to tell you we have never met anyone on this site, just that we don't really EXPECT to anymore, haven't given up yet, but we are feeling like its kind of a lost cause sometimes. I think the forum is fun enough to keep up on, great pics and stories, I don't have any swinger friends so I love the interaction of it. I will probably always be here couple times a week, raising hell! ~K~

A letter to Single Men looking to meet a willing Single Woman - - [quote=STANSBURYCPL]OK single peoples I could use some advise. My ex and I divorced 3 months ago. We were active swingers and that did not have anything to do with the divorce. We are still best friends and hang out all the time just live separate places and are following our different paths in life which was one of the things that led us to our divorce. Now upon divorce we talked about our Swingular profile and swinging in general. We love it and want to continue to attend parties together and be each others "wingman" per say. I have clearly outlined this on our profile in our description. Now to where I need advise. Now as a single man I would like to also find a single lady to have some fun with as well. I messaged and emailed and well to say the least the majority think I'm lying and trying to cheat, or wont talk with me because I do not have a profile picture. I explain that I cant post a public picture as it could cost me my job if the wrong person were to see it, but I'm happy to email one if requested. Now several months later I have not received one invite, one friend request, its radio silence. I would like to change this but I don't know how. Its led me to feelings of maybe I'm just not attractive enough sob story sob story bla no one wants to hear that crap, but I'm super frustrated. Any advise would be welcome. Thanks in advance. Aaron [/quote] This might sound simplistic, but I have been approached by government agents, school principals, Fortune 500 CEO's and CFO's that are unable to provide a face picture but will email one as you mentioned. Why can't you put your face picture in your private pictures. The only people that would see it is the ones you granted access to? I am given some reasons for this from them, but most stem because of government conspiracy theories. Hoping that is not you. If you can be fooled granting access you can also be fooled sending your picture by email. I don't want to give out my email to single men or newly single men with or with out a wing woman. Assuming you are verified and I haven't checked that, but this would also insure the person you are communicating with that the picture is indeed you. Just a thought.

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Then there's this. - Enjoy! - I’ll be honest and say I feel terrible jumping into this online mess again. It seems there are so many tools out there for all of us to point fingers, argue, and simply divide us all. I shouldn’t have jumped in and helped turn something that was likely meant to be funny into another argument. Everyone has the right to feel safe and secure and I hope you do whatever you need to do that, I just hope people tread lightly pushing those views onto others. EVILDOERS Has always been a refreshing light on this forum with great advice for newbs and the funniest twist on everything. I apologize. Hopefully I can do better and only add positivity to our great Utah swingers community to make 2021 better.

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Verified Real VS Not - How trusting are you in non-verified accounts? - [quote=EVILDOERS] Look for the union label when you are buying that coat, dress or blouse. Remember somewhere our union's sewing, our wages going to feed the kids, and run the house. We work hard, but who's complaining? Thanks to the I.L.G. we're paying our way! So always look for the union label, it says we're able to make it in the U.S.A.! Join Swingers Union Local 6969 today![/quote] Do we have to Verified to join?

swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - I have found that people have muddied up the forums with baggage. Your point is well made WAAA1101, I think that a swing site should be just that, not room for venting crap. I don't mean to sound indifferent about the massacre, war or such but I don't think a swing site forum is the place for it, nor is it a place to tolerate! Forums are not garbage disposal!!