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This one time at Swingers Camp - Discussion about N by N camp out - Another great year at camp! The work that Lang, Dre, Sue...and everyone else that makes this happen is appreciated here! For us one of the best things about this outing is the opportunity to make new friends! Sorry we didn't get around a bit more this year, but Thanks to everyone who made the extra effort to introduce yourselves to us! Don't be strangers...drop a line sometime!

real members? - - I have to disagree with you on your valadation process.. the ONLY thing that your photo or cam session proves is that it is a real person NOT a real swinger. In order for someone to prove that they are a REAL swinger.... There has to be some kind of reference referral from other swingers. Holding up a sign does NOT provide if they are swingers or not!!! BTW.... the couple that started this forum topic are REAL!!! We have never played with them but we have seen them at several parties. They are as real as they come. :) Carrie

Creating an Amazing Swingers Profile - How to market yourself better - So after reading the comments we went in and deleted some picture. Made some changes to the profile. We would change the profile picture but can't do it on the iPad. We were thinking the picture told a little about us. But your opinions are welcome. Simples.

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - "A former swinger and faithful Mormon reveals the dark side of the lifestyle and how it ruined her marriage." Hopefully it covers the good sides of the lifestyle too.

Utah county group - Group - It’s called Utah county FWB, swingers and kinks. It’s a private group but you should be able to find it, if not, let me know.

Single Men Meeting Couples - Are Single Men Treated Un Fairly In The Lifestyle - ______________________________________________________________________________ ** "Swinging" is just a different word for "swapping" and you can't swap if you bring nothing to the table. ** ______________________________________________________________________________ NOT. Swinging is absolutely NOT about simply swapping. DON JUAN was absoltely correct. The women are NOT commodities to be traded amongst the men in the clubs and at the parties, but many of you devalue yourselves by assuming that submissive role. Swinging is about choice. Thats is why the term "lifestyle" was coined in the early 80's; it's a way of life. If a single man is not to be considered a "real" swinger, then single women should not be considered "real" swingers either. What more does a single woman have to bring to the table than a single man? Do you think that these women do not represent the same set of issues that the men do? The clubs, the parties, the events...these activities are driven by the WOMEN who particpate. The clubs will allow single women in for next to nothing for a couple of good reasons. The first of which is obvios; without a room full of hot women dressed in almost nothing, you would have a room full of nt so hot men, all standing around waiting for the woen to arrive. It would be like a middle school dance. Or a gay club full of str8 men. The second reason is even more simple. They attract MEN who spend MONEY. Single MEN and married MEN alike. The lifestyle is financed by MEN. MEN who are willing to pay TOP dollar for the chance to meet with couples in the club. And let's face it, the guys who can afford to go on a regular basis are really the ones (if you are interested in single men anyway) that you would want to meet with, unlike a towel shark from the local adult arcade. MEN who accompany their wives to the club to meet with other couples for the evening. These married men often spend (on average) $200 to $300 in a single night. WOMEN are the EYE CANDY that keeps the party going. MEN do not want to go to a party that is full of other MEN, but they want to see EYE CANDY. So they are willing to pay to do it. Mrs. Luvbugs! is a bartender, and a good one at that. She makes more part time than most degreed professionals (including me! humph!) do working full time. Why? She is very attractive. She is outgoing. She knows her stuff. She understands that SEX SELLS, and that her clients are there to see HER as much as drink a jack and coke. I have seen men sit at her bar, stare at her all night, run up a $100 tab, and leave her $30. Thats average...do that 20 to 30 times a night and what do you get? All for the privelege of being served by HER. I wouldnt do it, even if I were single. But then, I dont have to either, so who knows? THEY constitute the LION SHARE of her business, and her livelyhood. The lifestyle is not different. We need these guys at the clubs. We need them to pay for memberships on our websites. They too are the oil that lubes the machine. Sorry, but thats how it is. Luvbugs! (mR.) ;)

Are we really as judgmental as vanilla people? - - Yes, many in the lifestyle are as judgmental as those outside. I am 15 pounds overweight but to some I am as broad as a battleship. What's more, after 34 years of marriage, 24 of which were in the lifestyle, my wife died. All of a sudden I was persona non grata at the club we attended because single males were not allowed. I had not changed, only my marital status. I have been pilloried and shunned because of being lumped with the FEW young single guys who don't have a clue. Now I have 3 strikes: I'm old, I'm slightly overweight, and single. I've learned these last 9 years that swingers can be just as cruel, predjudiced and uncaring as other people. What keeps me going is all those swingers who truely accept me as I am.:z

Traveling - Finding other lifestyle couples while traveling - Anybody know how to locate swingers in other st ates?

Help us out.. Take this Survey - For Utah Swingers - [quote=PASSIONATEFUN]Wish you had an area for comments . . .this being Utah, know you can't replicate Scarlett Ranch in Denver or Sea Mountain in Palm Springs, but if you could do something like that on occasion, great. Of course, the days of summer outdoor parties are nearing an end.[/quote] Good point.. I'll add something for comments... Highly unlikely those places could be replicated here for legal reasons..... Also, the swinger community here in Utah is REALLY tiny compared to other states.. (We like to think it's big... but most other states have much larger, much more active communities than we do).

Tampa area Swingers gulf Cruises - - Clothing Optional Lifetsyle friendly Cruises Prepare yourself fo the time of your life aboard an intermidiate cruising vessel. Clothing is optional and public lifestyle displays are encouraged!!! This is the ultimate swingers party for both couples and singles. We have 2 different cruise options in terms of length. First we have our most common 3day 2 night cruise. This cruise is open to singles and couples, although single men will be limited to 6. Each cruise can accomodate up to 28 people. Itinerary Day 1 Arrive at the port in St Petersburg and Board the Boat at 11:30am We will disembark at 12:30pm and head out to the gulf. Enjoy a light lunch while we make our way out to sea. Once we are 35 miles off shore, clothing becomes optional. Enjoy socializing, sunbathing, or even becoming playful!!! At 5pm we will arrive at our point of anchor and stop for the evening. Enjoy a heartiful dinner under the Gulf Skies. After dinner, it is time for more socializing, drinking, dancing and whatever else you fancy. Remember, this is a swingers cruise, so feel free to enjoy yourself wherever and however you please. Day 2 Out at sea We stay anbchored for the entire second day. Greta time to get some rays, swim, have fun, or just relax and recover from the first night. After all the second night is still coming!!! Breakfast, lunch and dinner will be served along with snacks all day long. Day 3 We will pull up anchor and start heading back at noon. This will give you about 4 more hours of uninhibited onboard freedom. We will dock back in St. Petersburg at approximately 5:30pm. Breakfast and lunch will be served. Our other package is exactly the same as above, except it is 4 days and 3 nights. We do have a single Guy package as well. They disembark 3 times a year and sell out fast. Our next single guy cruise is going to be on Febuary 18,2005. Single cruises allow for 15 single men to be a board. The rest of the guests are couples looking for that special guy to share intimate times with and single women. These too our oriented towards the swingers lifestyle. The singles cruise is 3 days and 2 nights. Prices: 3day/2night Single Laides- $125.00 Couples- $525.00 Single men- $850.00 4day/3night Single ladies- $200.00 Couples- $700.00 Single men- $925.00 Single male cruise- Single ladies- $100.00 Couples- $575.00 Single men- $880.00 All cruises are all inclusive. We have 3 meals a day and snacks throught the entire cruise. Alcohol is also provided, as well. The below are scheduled dates for our 2005 cruises. These sell out fast, so book now!!! (3/2 is the 3 day, 2 night, 4/3 is the 4 day, 3 night and SM is the single male cruise) 3/2 (departs 3 weeks in a row, then takes a week off) January 14, 2005 January 21, 2005 January 28, 2005 4/2 (departs once a month) Febuary 4, 2005 March 4, 2005 SM (Departs the same days as the 3/2) January 14, 2005 January 21, 2005 January 28, 2005 We have 3 boats in total to use for our weekly and monthly cruises. If you wish to charter a boat for private parties, please let us know. We will also be planning week long cruises to jamaica, bahamas, and mexico. All of these cruises will have land stays at lifestyle friendly resorts. Remember, we sail every friday. You can book up to 6 months in advance, and we do have payment plans avaiable. To reserve your space, we require a 25% deposit, the balance has to be paid in full one week prior to your cruise date. Single guys!!! Dont want to go as a single? we have several single ladies that have asked us to partner them up with a guy for the dcruises. Once you book your cruise, we will give you the contact info for each lady, so you can meet and hopefully find that perfect companion. These girls are real swingers, not escorts looking for someone to share their time with, after all, what fun would a swingers cruise be all alone. We do have single ladies looking for couples and other ladies, as well. You cannot beat these prices anywhere!!! Contact us now with your questions and to make your reservations now. We do give group discount rates if your group is larger than 10 people, ask us about it. Along with the cruise packages we offer, we will also be planning a land trip to Hedonism III in may, please email us to be added to the interest list for this vacation, as we will be sending the info out in the next week.