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Mormons - - [quote=SKICOUPLE]See what I mean...who wants to question others religious motivations on a swinger site? I find it hard to believe others would fall for this question from the original post. So being in the LDS church sucks for you...move on and find some folks to get naked with.[/quote] Right on! This is a pointless, unsexy, and stupid topic to discuss on a site like this! It comes up every once in a while...super “accepting and open minded people” often are the most closed minded of them all. Right on Mormons who explore! ExMo’s, we get your bad feels... but save it for other forums. Who cares what someone’s religion is or was? Protestant, Catholic, Judaism, Muslim, Buddhists, Hindus, JW, Wiccan, agnostic or whatever; don’t knock any of them. Open mind and positive vibes peeps. We feel the same way about political discussions among swingers. Freak, this isn’t a dating website. Honestly if you’re a hater of any religion or political persuasion...save it for other places. I mean we cant stand communists but seriously we’d tap a super hot communist chick...c’mon. As if the LS isn’t lame enough in UT mixing in hate or bad vibes about any religion or lack of is SO narrow minded and UNSEXY. Live and let live. Keep it sexy people. #openmind #nojudgement

Gym - - Gold's in Bountiful is FULL of nasty swingers. [em]Emo_12[/em] At least one class teacher and one trainer. [em]Emo_89[/em]

Know any Mormon swingers in SoCal? - Single girl in SoCal wants to know! - Well....honestly....it's kind of 'hot' to hookup with other mormons...Kind of like I'd love to find out about actual stories of BYU professors getting it on with their students.

Facebook group - - Seems like we read where there is a swingers Facebook group. Does anyone know if this true? If so, how do we find it?

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Headed to Unspoken tonight. It’s her birthday.

Creating an Amazing Swingers Profile - How to market yourself better - [quote=UTAHSJCOUPLE]Shit! We aren't verified. We are totally screwed! ~The Mrs.[/quote] I hereby certify the Mrs is real. I further certify that good spelling gives her a lady boner!

Xmas carols for swingers. - - Rudoulph the Big Cock Reindeer....Had the biggest cock ever known....and if you ever it saw it would very surely grow!!!

Single Males - - [quote=CTA313][quote=EVILDOERS] ...get a girl to join you....Not only do you now "bring more to the table", but you have the added credibility that if you can find and finesse a girl into joining you in this little adventure we call swinging (whether it be a girlfriend, a wife, a second cousin twice removed, or just a hot fwb) you might just not be a giant douchecopter.[/quote] Ignoring the need to "finesse" someone and unhealthy gender stereotypes in general, this line of reasoning is a little troubling as it presumes that a male's company is inherently worth less. Or that an absence of semi-romantic relationships somehow speaks poorly of his character. I personally think approaching someone whom you aren't already fairly close with and soliciting to go to a swingers party is a bit out of line. Especially if her company is sought as an accessory to demonstrate to others that he is not, as you say, “a douchecopter”. Call me old-fashioned. [quote=EVILDOERS] I know we can't be the only people who secretly wonder just a little bit about some single guys and why they aren't with somebody. Do they secretly hate women (yes, we've met some that actually do), are they just too lazy (or busy, maybe...but hey, we're all busy) to find someone, are they serial killers and/or just not very nice guys? [/quote] Oh, I hope you are! That's a really unfortunate outlook to have. Promising relationships take time to find, let alone build to the requisite amount of trust and stability to try things like this. In the mean time, I don't see anything wrong with someone pursuing their interests while still holding out for someone worthy of their emotional investment. To me, that behavior is quite attractive should be respected! It doesn't get any better than someone who is confident, self-actualized, and motivated to pursue their desires. Sadly, it sounds their gender influences whether this is seen as a desirable trait. I'm not sure how long you've been out of things (30 years?), but it's easy to forget the struggle when you're comfortable in a marriage. Things are more fluid. People don't feel the need to settle down like they used to. [quote=EVILDOERS]I know many will say they've tried and swinging is a deal breaker for most women. After almost 3 decades in the swinging trenches meeting and talking to other people, both couples and singles, we would disagree....many, if not most, women could eventually come around to the idea of swinging once they feel safe and secure in a relationship.[/quote] This is just confirmation bias if the evidence comes from a sample of people you have met while swinging. [quote=EVILDOERS]...those of us who DID put in all the blood, sweat, and tears into a relationship and allow it to grow to the point of daring (don't think for a second we aren't risking a LOT in opening up our relationships to other people!) to allow others access to our significant other sometimes wonder why some others want to take a shortcut to all the sweet swinging bennies with little or no risk on their own part.[/quote] If you're not comfortable sharing your wife with someone you might view as a potential competition, you definitely don't have to. On the other hand, there are a lot of people enjoy it :) This smacks of the old “you must suffer as I did” chestnut. [/quote] Yes, I agree, "finesse" was a poor choice of words. In my defense, I was at work and rather in a hurry to make a point...that apparently I didn't make well (and my attempts to also be humorous apparently fell flat too). Rereading my post it does smack a little of mild gender bias but I can assure you that it wasn't my intent in any way and most certainly is not my outlook on women, relationships or life in general. My intent was simply to advocate approaching swinging as a mutually desirable activity that two partners desire and share equally in. And not that it matters, but I've shared my wife with probably over a hundred men, married and single, and I've never thought of any of them as competition. But I never thought of swinging as "sharing" my wife either, but instead as her deciding to be sexual with another person and me being totally okay with her decision to do so. Sharing her, to me, almost denotes some sort of ownership or at very least some kind of permission that I would have to give. Both those ideas are not a part of our relationship. Perhaps the concept of "competition" in swinging interactions is a single male attitude? I don't know. And I didn't mean it in any way, shape, or form as a "you must suffer as I did" trope but simply as the idea that we invested a LOT of hard work and time making our marriage what it is and together deciding to risk opening it up to the excitement and also the possibility of harm that is swinging. I think, perhaps, that sometimes single people in the lifestyle don't quite understand the very real possibility of permanent damage (or worse) to the relationship that couples who swing are flirting with. For many (most?) of us, our marriages/relationships are THE most precious thing we have. What, if anything, are you risking? A bruised ego?

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - we are looking for friends ,, the friends i have now,, we can party & set around , talk, joke. and whatever.and not worry about what is said or who said it. To give you an example our friend Glen got him a new girlfriend she is spanish, now our friends are people of all colors different religons, there polish italian, irish, african american, etc..etc.. But Glens new girlfriend is new to the crowd. She been dating him for about 4 months. Now we don't swing with any of these people, the problem we have is this ,in our group of friends and Glen is in agreement with this , that we all have to watch what we say now if we say anything that has to do with spanish people, as in joking,cutin' up, whatever.she will get mad. If you can't sit around and joke and cut up without anyone getting offended then your not friends. We have tried to discuss this with her, to no aveil... This is what we are looking for, friends that can get along... without all the other bullshit that goes on in the rest of the world.. kristy & alton

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - I think my profile says this,, not into (( Interacial ))) but i do have friends that are black so i guess im racist when i know who i will & will not sleep with.. so i guess i need to let my black friends know i will no longer be there friends because there black and im a racist.. i will get there opinion on this and get back with you. but im sure you know exactly what they will say lol.. kristy