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just how long does it take ??? - - we have been swinging for 8 years now and have heard everybody say what fun it is . we have been to just about every party and club around here you can think of. and we have made very good friends from all this but we got into this to spice up our marrage. when we go to any party people are very nice to you but just dont want to have much to do with you . and no we didnt just set there and act like a wall flower. but its everywhere we go .its like we scare people or something. as of last year my wife said she has had enough of spending money to go to parties and have people not want to even talk to us except to say hi thanks for showing up and giveing us your money. so she stoped she said she is over all the drama from everybody. i cant blame her now . what ever happend to haveing good sex and go on ? we wa seven going to throw some parties here at our private campground for free. but thats most likely not going to happen now . we have tryed for 8 years thats a little bit stupid dont yeh think. east tennessee is not the place to meet swingers. at all.its full of fakers and wanna be and those that are real are the ones throwing the parties and they just want your money. with the exception of one cpl in cosby tenn. they are honest to goodness for real people they told us that they was to old to play with us , the age differance. so i ask you where does that put us now . and we cant move.

Swingers Rock Club - Live music, Dancing, and Sexy Friends - No where in my profile did it say I could spell that word correctly, as sad as this may seem it's been spelled like that for well over a year, and you're the first to point out my error thank you, here's a cookie 8-) Shawn

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - I think there is entirely too much bickering and bitching in these forums, and not nearly enough fucking....with the exception of Don :P Everyone here has their own tastes, their own likes, their own dislikes, and no one here is going to fill a need for everyone (again with the exception of Don, who's going to fill something ;) ). Just take what you get, have fun, and don't worry about what others think. Mrs. Two's two cents ;)

exspense of taking husband and boyfriend to party - - [quote=PITMOMMY]you know what i was originally think when i started this was that, iam masculine in my relationship with both guys, they both have more feminie than masculine qualities, then i read posts on here about homophobic guys who dont dp because they dont want to touch penises, its like wtf, then iam wondering where bi sexual men fit into this swingers community who are supposidly open mined, i would think that if this community were so open mined they would see a person as a masculine or femmine spirit, what if my bf like feminine guys, will there be any at a lifestyle party? what if a guy likes masculine women how many will be there? the closed minded nature of these parties sets the whole thing back to before the sixties, they might as well only allow straight wife swapping and no bisexual men allowed[/quote] Let's not go taking one thing and try calling it another! The topic had nothing to do with sexuality and everything to do with being too damn frugal.

Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - Sarasota... Great response!! I really was trying to say just that - there are 'perks' to any age of man, woman or couple... Of course it took me three paragraphs to say it....hehe. Happy Play! Te

Meeting new swingers? - Where to meet them? - we meet most on the net... but our friends have a monthly meet and greet party... about 300 to 400 show up its a great way to meet new friends. For those who are interested the link is http://www.secretdesires.org/

BD/SM- Why are there no groups? - - Now this IS Terry. OMG, did I unleash a monster when I put a profile on Fetlife.com for her? Just kidding, she's an angel. Even if there might be just a touch of devil, or at least imp. Anyway, that didn't work out as well as hoped, like Evil said, most fetish groups don't swing, their events aren't usually about sex, just discussions, socializing, and demonstrations, with people doing scenes with the people they're already in a BDSM relationship with. And before someone asks me "well, why don't you just ...", it's simple. She's into some things I'm not and in that life, if you aren't really into something, even if you do know what to do and how to do it, you can't really be a very good Dom. Since the guy is supposed to make the girl happy, I did the Fetlife profile for her. The first thing a new person who's interested in some BDSM group will get told is "We don't swing", that he/she isn't going to be able to go to an event or even party and hook up with someone, that even if he/she gets invited to participate in someone's scene (it does happen occasionally) it isn't likely to culminate in actual sex. Which makes it difficult for someone who wants her BDSM to be part of actual sex. One thing though, Evil. The Fifty Shades of Gray phenomenon notwithstanding, BDSM is more secretive than swinging. Anyone who finds a swing event online can attend, unless he's a single male and it's a no single males thing. Not so with BDSM. Fetlife, for example, has more than one sub-group that sponsors events. You can find the events on the site, but you can't just go to them. You have to be sponsored by someone from that group. And not everyone in the group, people who themselves have been through the process and can attend the group's events without a sponsor, can even be a sponsor. There are always specific requirements and a process of some sort to go through to become approved to sponsor new people. There's still a stronger stigma attached to BDSM than there is to swinging, and the potential consequences to being outed are more severe, especially in a place like Utah. So the people are much more cautious than are swingers, and swingers don't exactly put up billboards ads on the highway. ~ Terry

network swingers - - ....and which show would that be exactly?

What sets you apart from other swingers - Lets see whos looking for what. - Maybe it is the fact that I am single?! :z

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - "now.. waiting for the attacks.. which usually come from those who feel inadequate, inferior or cannot make a rational decision.. " Kinda like what you just did eh? LOL! "I find it quite amusing as well as revealing how some of the comments made in this forum by some mebers are diametrically opposed to their previous posts." Could it be personal enlightment? "now.. waiting for the attacks.. which usually come from those who feel inadequate, inferior or cannot make a rational decision." According to who? You? lol. Replies are welcome in a forum. If it were not in good form to reply to your drivel, this would be a monologue with your delusional ass talking to yourself. Well, that's just the first part of your day. This is the second part. It's called a dialogue, unlike the personalities with in your dementia, we have our own voices and opinions, born in other perspectives. ;-) -D-