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ksl - did you watch?? - Ok this is the Mrs. now - up until a post on KSL I didn't care to say anyting but someone's post pissed me off - they made it seem as if all the men were making the choice and us little women just went along with everything. Sorry I get pissed when people try to tell me that women mean nothing in this world... Okay enough ranting I am posting the comment that bugged me and then mine and 1 others. This is on the KSL website about the story they ran on supposed swingers lol ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ReplyAn observation by Steve L. @ 10:10am - Tue May 9th, 2006 Looking at the comments, it seems that the men accept it and the women do not. Reply(No Subject) by Kimberlie R. @ 11:12am - Tue May 9th, 2006 As a woman participating in this lifestyle, I figured I would add my .02. I was the one who brought it up not him. We started talking about it and decided it was something we wanted to try, it was not a decision made over night - we talked about it for quite awhile. This is not something you hear about that often (depending on where you grow up. People keep quiet about it because of people like you, who sit here and have the nerve to condemn us for a choice we make as adults and as husband and wife. We are not hurting anyone, we don't involve our families or kids. We are not trying to recruit anyone into what we are doing, if someone joins because they know we do it it's their choice as ADULTS. Every person who sits here and says its "nasty", "perverted", or "that the people who do this are more apt to be predators" have no idea what you are talking about. How dare you condemn someone for a choice they make as ADULTS. Last time I checked we still lived in America not Iraq and had the freedom of choice. You people are just like all the other people in other centuries who condemn someone for something you don't understand. You go to a church who's founder was teaching plural marraiges at one point, look what happened to him, all because the rest of the world didn't believe or understand what he did. Get a life people, quit condemning people for something they have the right to choose to do. ReplyBy the way by Glen T. @ 11:07am - Tue May 9th, 2006 Most Women in this lifestyle or Bi, or bi curious and like the option of having the best of both worlds. At least we don't have to hind in our closets or behind closed doors on the internet surfing for porn

what do guys think of when they masterbate? - - I have to admit that the thought of my wife being fucked by another man is sometimes he topic of maserbatory fantasy. More often it's fantasy of both of us with either another couple or another single female. Sometime the fantasies are of people we haven't met, fictional characters, or swingers we've been with. I think the most erotic are fantasies of vanila singles or couples we'd like to hook up with. When I was younger I sometimes masterbated to fantasies of fucking the Bishop's wife, who was a complete and total hottie. Mr. Sexperimentors

Hot Wife Anklets - Who knows what they are and notices them? - I think they're mostly an urban legend, at least as far as the myth of a woman who wears an anklet being into that particular sexual act. Yes, women in the "hotwife" lifestyle sometimes wear them. But so do other women of all ages and persuasions. Personally, I wouldn't make any assumptions about a woman's sexual proclivities based on a particular piece of jewelry that she is or isn't wearing. I even had a neighbor once who I noticed wearing an anklet that actually SAID "Hotwife" on it. I guarantee that the only connotation it had for her was that she was a wife and her husband thought she was hot. But if you enjoy wearing them, knock yourself out. Just don't assume all, or even many, of the people you encounter (outside of a swingers party) will know the implication. And fwiw I've seen more than one tween wearing them at the mall. So there's that....

Spanish Fork to American Fork - Utah - [quote=JoeThe1Mac]I am Looking for a Cuckold Couple or submissive married lady to use as my personal Slut. From Spanish Fork to American Fork. Remember discretion is always assured. [/quote] Unfortunately, there is VERY common belief among single males that all or most swingers are into the cuck lifestyle. I mean, how could any self-respecting man let his significant other fuck other men if he wasn't a cuck? We've actually heard single guys say that. And we can't count the number of times over the years that we've been approached online or even in person at parties and meet-ups by SM's who have this misconception. There are plenty of cuckold-specific websites online for people who are into that dynamic.

Swingfest - Hollywood Florida! - We are going to Swingfest 08 and are counting down the days to when 10,000 Naked, Joyful and Partying Swingers will converge upon Hollywood Florida to have more fun than most have ever dreamed of. Life is Really Good. Hope to see many of you there. Nancy & Tom

What about the lifestyle didn't meet your expectations? - Preconceptions and disappointment. - I'm home bored, so stop here if you don't want to read a bunch of shite. lol. I think we both entered the lifestyle with some preconceived notions of what the people in the LS would be like, but that was mostly from our limited experience with being vanilla and having LS peeps try to hit on us. It just seemed creepy, desperate and gross at the time. We assumed most of the players would be super aggressive, ready to fuck anyone and have zero interest in relationships outside of sex. Our initial entry was simply to watch and be watched. We quickly learned that there are just as many wonderful people in the LS as out of it. Maybe more. There will always be the outliers, the few percentage on each end of the spectrum that are more extreme, but that happens in any population. Overall, it was a happy surprise. So that would be a negative expectation that wasn't met. As far as things we were hoping would happen or expectation that weren't met, we have very few. But we also went into the labyrinth without really expecting or assuming anything. I don't think we were naive enough to think that this segment of the population was somehow immune from the social characteristics that reveal themselves in any other social class or group. You will always have the "cool kids" the "shy people" the "jocks" the "geeks" the people who classify themselves as the "pity party" and blame the world for their problems. Those things will exist anywhere and should. Swingers are a diverse group of people with a few, maybe very few, common goals. Those goals I think are to meet others with social deviancy and those interested in expanding their sexual experiences or simply to meet new friends. Swinging, in itself, doesn't solidify your beliefs in anything else (politics, food preferences, choice of travel location, or even how or what you are looking for as swingers). I think that is where expectations can fail. If a person goes into a situation thinking, "I/we think "x" so everyone else must think "x" as well", they are bound to be disappointed. I've said this a lot of times, the lifestyle is not black and white. Life isn't black and white. There will be frustrations around every turn if you allow yourself to be duped into thinking your way of thinking is more than just your viewpoint, that it is universal to everyone. I see people complaining of flakes, people who meet once then run away, etc. That's how they roll. That's their truth. It's what they are comfortable with or wanting and who am I to judge. That being said, I don't have to associate with them and hopefully learn how to avoid that situation or become more efficient at finding people with similar interests. The lifestyle is work. Sometimes a lot of work. I think it's foolish to think that it should be easy to find 4 people who all jive. Think about how many people you have dated before settling on the right one for you. And to assume that somehow changes in the lifestyle and that after chatting on kik for a few weeks then meeting over drinks will somehow magically connect you. Ugh. Sometimes it happens. Sometimes not. But I wouldn't expect it. For others, the thought of any connection past the one-nighter is absurd. Why would you want to make friends with your fuck-buddies? It may be too risky and cause too many emotions. Point is, we are all different and that is what makes the journey so beautiful. And, just a note about flakes, since it is a recurrent theme. Yes, maybe there are more flakes in the lifestyle, but I'm guessing it's specifically related to the nature of the LS. Swinging for some can be very intimidating and frightening. Sometimes the chase is much more fun than the fucking. Not excusing them that do flake, it seems a problem for sure, but I think I understand, at least in part, why it happens so much. There is so much social pressure not to be in the lifestyle and most were brought up without it being the normal way to live. So society is telling us we are wrong, gross, deviant, etc. Add to that the fear of actually getting naked and fucking someone else and it can cause a lot of anxiety in some. When we first started we were petrified to even go the parties thinking it was going to be a fuck/rape fest. lol. Turned out we were wrong but it was a learning process. Lastly, if you are already treading carefully and the couple/person you are supposed to be meeting gives off any bad vibes, maybe flaking is best. It's hard not to hurt someone's feelings and honesty isn't always what happens. I know we have been honest with couples and it turned into a shit-show. Why don't you like us? If you only meet us and give us a chance we can prove we are wonderful. Other's like us, why don't you. It's hard to be honest at times about why there isn't a connection. May flaking be a way to spare feelings? I don't know. There are probably a plethora (Hefe, do you know what a plethora is?)of reasons people flake and some of those my be that they are just douches. But likely there are other people that aren't and are just trying to get out of a situation they are unfamiliar with. Avoid the douches but maybe give those others a second chance. Evil: always good topics you bring to the table. So you think because people like sex they should be good at it? I know a lot of people who love food but suck at cooking. haha. Maybe having too many options on the table can also make people lazy. I don't have to try hard if I know tomorrow is another partner. To some it's the quantity and not the quality. But I can see why the expectation would be there. All in all we really have no complaints. It's been a fascination journey. Some ups, some downs, but always and adventure. We will keep our expectations low, both of ourselves and those around us. Less disappointment that way. I'm going back to sitting in my underwear, drinking a beer and watching TV. Zero expectations. haha. :) Mr. SRO

COVID and Lifestyle - Testing or risking it - [quote=NPDP99]Hey we are in Tennessee and wondering if anyone knows of any adult theaters[/quote] You've come to the right place. If there's ANYTHING that swingers in Utah are knowledgable about it's adult theaters in Tennessee!

Hostile pricks in the lifestyle - - sorry...Male here... Whoever said something about your wife being grown in alaska...I would like to have one grown...Can you tell me which garden? COme on...Do not be greedy with the info...We could use one...I would have taken it as a compliment....but I like whales and think your wife is a fox... As to the to old to fat comment...A lot of people are "fantasy swingers" and as soon as they have some sort of real contact, they have to quickly find an excuse to turn you off...and what woman, no matter how big she is, would NOT be turned off by that comment? So to all your swinging people...I have a motto I live by...and I will share oit with you... FUCK THEM ALL BUT ONE...NEED SOMEONE TO LIGHT THE FIRE...AND I HOPE THAT ASSHOLE LIGHTS HIS SHIRT ON FIRE DOING IT!!!! Not that everyone is an asshole, but a lot are, and thusly the fuck them all attitude...BUt then again..I am an asshole to...I just hide it better than some others ;)

Other activities? - Do you only meet swingers for sex? - No it is not just for sex although that is a really fun part of it. Some of the things we have done with couples that we swing with inlude, going out to dinner, go to a movie together, go to a play, go to a concert, go shoot some pool toether, go bowling, invite them up to our cabin for the weekend (yes we have had couples come spend an entire weekend at the cabin and not play even though we had before and since). We like to go hiking together, fix a fun dinner in at our place in town or at the cabin and enjoy. Other things have included some plane old fashioned helping out stuff like working equipment or building something. Lots of things we like besides fun and frolic in the bedroom, but we like that too.

Hollywood Swingers? - - Discretion is the name of the game. You could go through my trash for last 20 years and never find one scrap of paper showing my wife and I were swingers. My computer would be a different story. I guess a dedicated "hacker" could get into my computer but which one would he choose? Anyway, I say that if the Hollywood types want to play it is none of my business, unless of course for some reason they want to play with me.