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cool karaoke clubs tonight??? - Where to go karaoke - Any one know some cool karaoke clubs for tonight. Any swingers hang out there?
Gym - - Gold's in Bountiful is FULL of nasty swingers. [em]Emo_12[/em] At least one class teacher and one trainer. [em]Emo_89[/em]
Open Topic - Seduced a \"vanilla\" person last night... - **It seems that many \"vanilla\" people aren\'t as vanilla as they would seem when given an opportunity to be with a hot couple. lol **
Aint it the truth! I think that most single men are complete closet swingers anyway. I dont even think the term \"swinger\" should really apply. It is more like that big red button on those staples commercials...push it and instant Git Er Done! gratification!
I can not think of one single, horny male that would pass on the opportunity if it was presented.
Luvbugs!
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Friends Lists - - Maybe all swingers should move to utah hell poligamy seems to be leagal....LOL and we rebel towards th establishment personally? who would think. what a party that would be!!!
Disneyland swingers - - We are going to be there Oct 4th to the 7th and wondering if there are any swingers that go to disneyland maybe hook up on its a small world lol or close to disney land that would like to meet us at Downtown Disney for lunch dinner or something.
Email us D and J
Who is going to Younge swingers week HEDO? - anyone going? - [quote=SHEPASKI]It's already sold out that week right?[/quote]
oh yeah been for a while.
Age differences - How do you handle it - We2, I can understand what you are saying. My first wife was 16 years older then I and my current wife is 6 years younger. First wife helped me to mature early and quickly and current wife keeps me young and on my toes. Seems like most everyone feels similar to us. Maybe the people having the conversation we were involved in should have said the younger swingers that were at the party they were referring to were not as mature instead of saying they are more into flirting and dirty dancing rather then playing.
Secret facebook group for SLC? - - I actually started one: Northern Utah / Southwest Wyoming Swingers
It isn't jumping yet, but would like to see more people added.
Search for Nathan H., I live in Mtn View.
I posted this in case you are interested in joining. I figured that if we were able to get a group going we could communicate in ways other than on here. The choice is yours, there is no pressure
Single Men Meeting Couples - Are Single Men Treated Un Fairly In The Lifestyle - In an earlier response someone wrote:
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*** Short & Sweet: In our opinion, we don't view single men in the swinging lifestyle as swingers - more like single men wanting to have easy sex (most of them anyway) with someone else's wife. They bring nothing to the "table" that another man "within a couple" could bring. ***
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What anyone brings to the table in the lifestlye is highly subjective; it would greatly depend on what you were looking for in the first place wouldnt it?
While we have met quite a few single men who were lying assholes, we have also met as many who were complete gentleman who earned our respect and trust.
As for having "easy" sex with someone else's wife...well, it shouldnt be all that easy should it? That is, unless we as couples are as indiscriminate as the single men are about with whom we have sexual relations.
What is the proverbial "table" anyway? What you bring to the "table" is YOU, or yourselves if you are a couple. What you have to offer can only be valued by those who would recognize and appreciate your contribution.
It isn't a swap meet. (My wife for your wife.) That is a classic misconception about who we are and what we do as lifestylers. During the "key " parties of the 70's this was the general attitude, but those days are gone. We are a much more sophisticated breed now, who have exprienced a sexual evolution unlike anything our parents could have imagined, thanks to the addition of the internet and sites like this one.
There are GAY swinging couples comprised of 2 MEN. We have no desire to date them, but we do not disagree with their right to participate....Are they swingers? Absolutely! Why not? They seek what we do for all of the same reasons. Who are we to determine their place, or value in the lifestyle?
A lot of couples take a very narrow view on this subject, which to me is very sad.
I am here to tell you that the word "swinger" is absolutely NOT synonymous with the phrase "wife swapper". That archaic, stupid phrase only hurts us as lifestylers, and is not truly representative of who we are, and what we do. "Threesome" does not ONLY imply 2 women and a man. We come in all flavors, with varying desires and fantasies to fullfill.
Many times (and we have seen this too many times to count in the last 13 years swinging) it is the MAN of the COUPLE who is too insecure to allow HIS wife to be with another man, 3some or couple! So they only date single women... or attempt to atleast. LoL. I am not saying that this is true for everyone. But I have seen it too many times to count. The hypocrisy is staggering.
Everyone makes choices, and we are all free to make them. We do not judge those who choose to only date couples. YES, there are single male assholes in the world. The fact that they are single does NOT make them a health risk. Swinging COUPLES have far more sex than ANY of the single men I know! Most of the COUPLES we know have done things in the clubs that these poor guys can only jerk off too in their dreams, with far far more regularity.
A well dressed, well mannered, MATURE, professional male who is not cheating on his spouse, looking to attempt cause trouble in someone's marriage, and wants to have a great time with an honest couple is out there. We have met scores of them! Police officers, doctors, lawyers, business professionals....you cant sell me that they are all midnight "corner store" Johns looking for a cheap sexual fix with any pussy that comes along. Geesh, guys have standards too. I have FAR MORE sex than ANY single man I know! And so do the rest of you couples! Unless ofcourse they are college kids, and then....come on! What wild and crazy college aged 22 year old man ISNT looking for pussy in bars and strip clubs? Is THAT who you would swing with anyway?
If there were as many single women swinging as single men, there would be quite a few single WOMEN assholes out there too. We live right next to The University of Maryland, so I employ some of the biggest hookers I have seen anywhere, anytime.
I say, pick through the weeds, be selective about with whom you have sex (shouldn't we anyway?), and let the chips fall where they may.
Thats what the lifestyle is all about.
Just my $1.25...
Luvbugs! (mR.) ;)
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