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Age differences - How do you handle it - We2, I can understand what you are saying. My first wife was 16 years older then I and my current wife is 6 years younger. First wife helped me to mature early and quickly and current wife keeps me young and on my toes. Seems like most everyone feels similar to us. Maybe the people having the conversation we were involved in should have said the younger swingers that were at the party they were referring to were not as mature instead of saying they are more into flirting and dirty dancing rather then playing.

Evil's latest poll. Fellas, would you ever... - - [quote=CHEFFETTE][quote=EVILDOERS]Naw. Not tryin' to be the Soup...er Sex Nazi. Just wanted to try to understand where some of the attitudes about male bisexuality and swinging come from. I find it extremely interesting how much homophobia still exists in the world and how much exists in a community of people dedicated to sexual freedom. I find human nature fascinating and especially when that nature is something that is more or less taught rather than innate. [/quote]In the three months + I've been reading here all I can come up w/ to explain certain members' homophobia and continued, idiotic comments is this is a male-dominated swinger site and in my experience males feel more threatened by the potential they're perceived as something they don't want to be seen as; you'd think that w/ as much time as they spend w/ their own cock in their hand every single day they'd be less terrified of a cock belonging to another guy, but apparently they must declaim it at every turn or they'll go sterile/bald/teh gayz w/o even TRYING.[/quote] If I were from Maine, I'd say "Ahyup". As I told a girl a couple days back when we were talking about "Sexual Fluidity" by Lisa Diamond, when she said she'd heard that Diamond is working on a new study along the same lines, but on men instead of women, I doubted she'd find much there because, for whatever reason, society has a much more severe taboo against male-male sex than it does against female-female sex. The taboo against women with women was once nearly as strong, but since probably sometime in the '60s it has become much less so. And you're surrounded by society's attitudes, and they're pounded into your head from they day you're old enough to understand anything. And the stronger a taboo, and male-male sex is one of the strongest, the more unlikely it is that you'll get ever rid of it. Physically, sex is a matter of friction properly applied to the correct parts of the body, ultimately resulting in orgasm. So the sex of the person applying it, or to whom you're applying it, really shouldn't matter. But it does. I have absolutely zero homophobia. If I'm in bed with more than one person, and some guy's hand touches me someplace for a second I won't freak out or even care. I understand that I've been socialized into how I feel, and that if I'd grown up in, for example, ancient Greece, I wouldn't have been. I understand that the prohibition of male-male sex grew out of humanity needing to expand as quickly as possible in order to survive, and that the cultural attitudes which that created got written into religions as they developed. I know that there's absolutely no logical reason for it. I know that the "logical" arguments against homosexual sex are nonsense. Like "it isn't natural - you don't see homosexual animals." Bullshit. Yes you do, all the time. I have a hen who's always humping the other hens. She doesn't accomplish anything, but she does it. One of the animals that is genetically closest to humans, the Benobo, a type of chimpanzee, has sex all the time with members of its band (the true swingers of the animal world), male or female, doesn't matter. I know that physically, biologically, there's no reason sex with one sex shouldn't work as well as with the other. I have a really good friend who is a pre-op male to female transexual, and if she ever has the surgery, and becomes physically female below as well as above the waist, sure I'd have sex with her if she wanted to. And I have other friends who are lesbian or gay. And I even belong to and volunteer for HRC (Human Rights Council). I should be a prime candidate for bisexuality. But no, I would not suck someone's dick. Or want some guy sucking mine. Even though I understand that that feeling has been socialized into me, that it probably wasn't predetermined when I was born male, still it's there, and it is what it is. The more emphatically something is socialized into you as you grow up, the less likely it is that you'll ever break away from it, even if you do manage to get away from some of the other things you were "taught". And I think that, Evil is your answer. ~ Terry

How Do you Find Out - Question about Friends - I disagree with CandJ. I have a buddy that I thought would be cool with it and since he has found out we are swingers he nearly never talks to me anymore. We are car guys and it takes something big to part those ways...

A NEW SITE TO SELL AND BUY SEXY STUFF - u may sell anything sexy there - A FEW OF YALL HAVE WRITTEN ME SAYING U ARE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING ON THE SITE . THERE IS DIFFERENT PARTS TO THE SITE . THERE IS JUST A SWINGERS SITE TO JUST TALK AND MEET PEOPLE . AND THEN THERE IS THE AUCTION PART . WHERE U SELL AND BUY STUFF AT . U HAVE TO SIGN UP FOR BOTH PARTS . AND THEN CLICK ON WHERE U WANT TO GO ONCE U ARE ON THE MAIN PAGE . IF U HAVE ANY PROBLEMS PLEASE EMAIL ME AND ILL WALK U THROUGH IT . DONT FORGET ABOUT THE PIC CONTEST . IF U ARENT SHY THEN PLEASE ADD SOME NAUGHTY PICS TO THE CONTEST SO U CAN GET THE CHANCE TO WIN SOMETHING SEXY AND NAUGHTY . AND TO THOSE THAT ARE WAITING FOR THE PANTIES TO COME IN THEY SHOULD BE HERE IN A FEW DAYS . AS SOON AS I GET THEM THEY WILL BE UP ON THE SITE . IF U KNOW A PARTY IS COMING UP LET ME KNOW THE THEME AND ILL TRY TO FIND SOME STUFF FOR YOU .I WAS ALSO THINKING ABOUT PUTTING A WANT AD FOR STUFF . SO U CAN WRITE FOR SOMETHING U ARE LOOKING FOR AND SEE IF ANYONE HAS IT THAT WOULD WANT TO SELL IT . WHAT DO YALL THINK ABOUT THAT .????????? I AM LOOKING FOR A SWING . BUT I DONT THINK ANYONE THAT HAS ONE WILL SELL IT ... HA HA HA NAUGHTY DREAMS FREAKY KITTY

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Anyone know if Unspoken in Ogden is having a lifestyle m&g this Friday night 2/4 and if so what is secret password?

Best swingers club for a 26m/36f couple - - I know it’s a long haul, but the masque in Paris is pretty amazing. Maybe even worth a trip :)

Another Swingers Show on TV - - That'll be something to be DVR'd.

just how long does it take ??? - - we have been swinging for 8 years now and have heard everybody say what fun it is . we have been to just about every party and club around here you can think of. and we have made very good friends from all this but we got into this to spice up our marrage. when we go to any party people are very nice to you but just dont want to have much to do with you . and no we didnt just set there and act like a wall flower. but its everywhere we go .its like we scare people or something. as of last year my wife said she has had enough of spending money to go to parties and have people not want to even talk to us except to say hi thanks for showing up and giveing us your money. so she stoped she said she is over all the drama from everybody. i cant blame her now . what ever happend to haveing good sex and go on ? we wa seven going to throw some parties here at our private campground for free. but thats most likely not going to happen now . we have tryed for 8 years thats a little bit stupid dont yeh think. east tennessee is not the place to meet swingers. at all.its full of fakers and wanna be and those that are real are the ones throwing the parties and they just want your money. with the exception of one cpl in cosby tenn. they are honest to goodness for real people they told us that they was to old to play with us , the age differance. so i ask you where does that put us now . and we cant move.

Is this one of your rules? What is it? is it fear? or something - Does everyone feel this way? - To everyone, and no one in particular, The reason I have asked this question was not to insult any one's rules, or chastise as some seem to have taken it, AGAIN. I have asked this because our rules have changed and even lightened. As we get deeper into the lifestyle we have given up alot of our original rules and now they are more like guidelines. (I don't know if any of you remember the beating I took in the forum for having a no kissing rule, but after abandoning it I still have yet to find another man I can kiss passionately, just doesn't do it for me I guess.) I am still wondering why this is such a popular rule. It seems there are many who have the "No friends, No play rule." I am only curious as to why. I do not think anyone owes anyone sex, I don't think that everyone should fuck on the first date, I am simply curious. We are very secluded in the south, and are limited as to options of swingers to befriend. A great deal of you Northern Utah swingers have this "No friends, No play rule," out of respect for your rules I can't hardly send you an email asking if you want to hookup this weekend as we are only going to be in town Friday, and have a life to get back to on Saturday. This would break your rule and I cannot feasibly ask it of you. Our guideline for this situation is "Management reserves the right to refuse service to anyone." or in other words, we will see how it goes. Anyway, I hope I didn't offend anyone, I have my own weird guidelines as well and have often wondered if there are just a bunch of weirdos out there I don't know about, or if I am the weirdo. ~CLASSY~

swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - Swinging isn't just about finding people to have sex with. Yes, that is the main goal but I'd like to think that the people that I hook up with have other interest besides sex. we - at least I am here to meet people who share my lifestyle and make friends that I can chat with or just chill and enjoy each other without being pressured into anything.