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KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - [quote=FUCKCHASTITY]We get so many comments from our vanilla friends that we have the best relationship and happiest marriage they have ever seen. In fact, we have had total strangers observing us come up and say to me that they wish their spouse were like mr chastity, as loving and devoted to me as he clearly is. If only they knew that our big secret to a loving, happy, long lasting relationship is open communication, absolute honesty, and no jelousy; pretty much the stuff the sums up the lifestyle for those that start with a strong relationship and go into it together for fun and not as a last ditch effort to save a sinking ship. [/quote] People ask Joe and I all the time how long we have been married. We say we are on our 11th year (almost 12 together) and they say we act like newlyweds. I'd like to think that our kinky, poly, swinging relationship has something to do with our happiness. PS She would not have gotten the STD if they had this little thing called "communication" where you tell your partner your needs and they listen then express their own. Her hubby was obviously cheating, convinced her to try it, she didn't like it from the get go, and when the STD story was done SHE contacted the news saying that same STD AND swinging ruined her marriage...OH and she has been with her new hubby for fie years, she should be OVER it by now if she is (as she claims) happy in her new marriage.

Speling and Swining - - [quote=IHORUS69]Turns out this lame program allows one to edit the content of your post and not the title. So you can hack on the mis-spell all you want, but you are missing the forest from the trees. Its a fine example of missing the point; anal banality-- and proves a disappointing social and emotional maturity.[/quote] I think you may have missed the point. Evildoers is one funny person. it was all in jest. Maybe I'll start a thread asking why swingers don't try harder to have a sense of humor. On a side note, I hear steroids make one irritable and judgmental.

Vegas next week - Not this week (11/3) but next week (11/9) - The Adult Indusry show in Vegas is on Jan 8th, 9th, and 10th. The three clubs that are having swingers during that weekend are Cathouse, MIX, and ASIA. IF you want to get in with the in crowd of local swingers get with PerfectLV. Think they have a website. J&L

New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - We would be interested.

KSL swing story - - For those of you guys out of town. This is the transcript from the KSL website. "Everyone has shared their partners with everyone else in the room." "You're in happy valley and you think nothing like that could happen." An Eyewitness News Investigation takes us inside a delicate subject few people like to talk about -- infidelity, couples cheating, in secret, in the open, and joining a movement that appears to be gaining momentum. We heard persistent rumors that spouse-swapping and adultery is commonplace in certain suburban neighborhoods. We discovered those rumors were based on at least some truth. People told us they were being recruited -- marriage counselors say they are seeing more if it. There aren't statistics or easy answers, but it's clear the effects can be devastating. Love, commitment, holy matrimony. In Utah, where marriage vows and family values run deep. Woman: "They said it was more exciting when their spouse was involved." This story will open eyes to something many would like to keep secret. "It was taboo within their religious background." "I thought, this can't be happening here. This is Utah." Sometimes it's kept very quiet, among neighbors and friends. Other times, it's out in the open. Studies show infidelity is to blame for more than half of divorces in Utah. What we found surprised even experts. We knocked on doors, attended a party. We heard stories by phone, by email, but nothing could match what we heard in a pocket of Draper. "Something was wrong with every other neighbor in that neighborhood." Her husband's indiscretions shattered their marriage. "Intensely, intensely painful. It's the hardest thing I've ever been through in my life." The divorce final, he remarried one of their neighbors within a week. It seems adultery ran rampant. Up the block it was consensual with other married neighbors cheating together. People told us they moved to get away from it and stayed inside to avoid it. Across town one woman told us she just wanted to run from it: "Everyone in the room had shared their partners with everyone else in the room. These people had been married five, 10, 20 years." She and her husband were invited to a barbeque with couples from Draper, Provo, Sandy and Salt Lake. A doctor made a move. "He's hitting on me, like he's single, and his wife's sitting right there. I think, there's another motive to this party and it's not just to hang out and meet new people." They got out of there. While there's no data, experts say it's proof of a trend. Vicky Burgess/Ph.D. Clinical Psychologist: "I think, because sexual relations and sex itself is more open, I think we're seeing more of it." We found there are several parties where couples can meet. Randy Chatelain, Ph.D./ Marriage and Family Therapist: "I believe this kind of behavior is going to catch up with a couple, because where does it stop? What more do you have to involve to create the high?" Hundreds of couples pack a popular Sandy nightclub. "A lot of people nowadays have fantasies and they want to fulfill them with their significant other. This is the best way to do that." This man, who asked not to be identified, built a business, helping couples meet at parties. His website suggests spouses can be in love and still enjoy sex with others. "They figure, 'I would much rather do it with the person I love than have them do it behind my back.'" From the looks of it, he's pretty successful. He has 4,000 members living in Utah. How fast is it growing? Four years ago there were 150 members. How common is it? Posing as a married woman, we signed up on a website aimed at so-called "swingers." In six days, 70 married men, most from Utah, ask to start a fling.

Sexuality - Where does it come from? - - I, personally, don't think you can change your orientation, it is something that is developed in childhood, and you are not aware until you become an adolescent. I knew I was a bisexual in my teens, and even though I primarily was with women, I always had the desire to be with a man. That desire has never gone away. Now, as an adult, I have learned that I can be with both a man and a woman, and be sexually satisfied. The sexual satisfaction is obviously different, but, it is very exciting. It is wonderful to be able to explore your sexuality freely, and bisexuals are very open-minded individuals. Again, this is my opinion. I have lived a good sexual life, for the most part, and right now is the best time. I have a wonderful woman, who accepts me for who I am, and loves to see my bi side in action. We have met some wonderful swingers, and would not change anything. Ron

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Well said Mr. X -D-

playtime - - I dont think you will have any trouble finding volunteers. The best place to find friends is Habits in south salt lake. on a friday or saturday there are typically 50 or more swingers there. have a great time in the lifestyle....

Creating an Amazing Swingers Profile - How to market yourself better - Very nicely written! I couldn't agree more!

Erotic Couples Photos - - And yes, we ALWAYS give full, untouched copies to the folks we photograph/play with. Makes sense, right? yes we do the same thing, and for the swingers .we also do it for free,, even if they don't want to hookup.. we do alot of free photos shoots..T.F.P i alton, just injoy it.and it makes us friends.. and they can see the real us,, we are not the assholes you think we are.. there are 3 things we don't get over 1,someone ripping us off 2,calling the cops on us 3, liars but all else we can get over, Alton but if you are cutting us just to fuck around thats cool i can deal with that just send me a private email to let me know so i wont take it so personal cause the deeper you cut me the deeper i will cut you. to be honest with ya ..i can get real nasty.anyway with that said if your not affraid pick up the phone and give me a call and talk to the real me and you will find out i am a really a nice guy. just cause we live to far apart doesnt mean we cant be friends..i think if more people did this more on swingular there would not be so much name calling in the forums.but then you are thinking if i put my number on the net you would think i would have everyone calling me but i dont even though you would think i would be getting alot of harrassing calls but i dont..occassionally i get someone to call and hang up but that is the risk you take ..i have gotten 20 bunk calls in the last 8 years..try it sometime you will find that it works pretty good.. all my info is listed here and on my website alton