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Ugly people and swinging - - A few years ago we met our first "swingers." They were in their 50's, overweight, and not attractive. We eventually met more of their friends who were equally overweight and not attractive. They were always trying to entice us to participate in their "swinging" activities. It seemed as if all these couples lost interest in each other and just wanted some other person besides their own partner to fuck. They were always looking to trade up and we were the outcasts for not participating. The overweight ugly people always hide behind "inner beauty" and "connection." Sorry, I don't get it. My girl doesn't get it even more than me. I'm aware that ugly people need love too. It's great when two ugly couples can come together and eventually....come together. You know who you are. Or at least others know who you are. Attraction is everything in this lifestyle. Standards vary not only from couple to couple but person to person. Think about it: It's absolutely amazing that you found someone that isn't completely disgusted by you and vice versa. The odds of finding another couple that BOTH of you are into are astronomical. I think a lot of people in this lifestyle just "settle" for what's available, in turn lowering the collective standard. Don't be afraid to reject a couple if one of them is unattractive. Your partner will appreciate this.

hall passes - valid? - One of the deep dark secrets of swinging is that swingers don't magically have a corner on the honesty market. (GASP! I know, right?) And despite the fact that it seems somewhat counterintuitive, for some people, thumbing their noses at society's norms by fucking each other's spouses just isn't quite naughty enough. Nope, for them, they just have to add the extra dimension of sneaking around and lying about it. I think it reminds them of hiding their Playboys under the mattress when they were younger. Personally, we try to avoid people with the emotional maturity of Donald Trump. [em]Emo_67[/em]

Lifestyle Stats - - TINKERDORK, is that anything like the glass is half full or the glass is half empty? I suppose if it's a glass dildo that doesn't matter... Statistically speaking there should be something like 127,323 Mormons in America (more than double that world wide) who are also Swingers. Given the repressed nature of the religion, and most religions in general, there are probably that many in the closet... Wouldn't in be nice if you didn't have to hide it? Mr. Sexperimentors

How far are you willing to travel ? - - HOW FAR AM I WILLING TO GO TO MEET THEM HOOK UP ? ALL DEPENDS ON HOW GOOD THE ASS IS ..... HA HA HA HA JUST KIDDING . U KNOW SOMEONE HAD TO SAY IT ........ WE REALLY DONT TRAVEL MUCH TO SEE OR DO ANYTHING ..... SO I WOULD SAY NOT TO FAR . BUT WE HAVE ALOT OF PEOPLE THAT INVITE US OR EMAIL US AND TELL US THAT WE WANT TO HOOK UP THEY CAN COME HERE . TALK ABOUT PRESSURE . I DONT THINK I WOULD GO TO SOMEONE ELSE LIKE THAT UNLESS I HAVE CHATTED ALONG TIME WITH THEM AND KNOW WE CLIKC WELL . OR HAVE MET THEM BEFORE . CAUSE I DONT WANT TO TRAVLE FAR AWAY AND THEN FIND OUT WE DONT CLICK WELL. WE HAVE 3 KIDS AND WE ARE REDOING A HOUSE .I RUN A SWINGERS SITE .HE DOES BODY PAINTS . SO WE HAVE NO TIME TO DO ANYTHING . WE ARE BUSY ALL WEEK LONG . AND THEN THE WEEKEND IS TO DO EXTRA THINGS AND SPEND TIME WITH THE KIDS AND FAMILY AND STUFF LIKE THAT . WE GO TO A SWINGERS CLUB ON SAT NIGHTS WHEN WE CAN GET OUT . AND WE WELCOME ANYONE TO COME AND HANG OUT WITH US THERE . WE ARE MAINLY LOOKING FOR NEW FRIENDS ALL THE TIME TO MEET AND HANG OUT WITH. WE PLAY WITH THE ONES WE REALLY LIKE AND CLICK WITH . WE DONT MEET ANDPLAY . WE ONLY PLAY WITH GOOD FRIENDS . I REALLY DONT CARE IF THEY LIVE OUT OF STATE OR RIGHT NEXT DOOR . AS LONG AAS IT ISNT GOING TO BE A ONE NIGHT STAND THEN WE CAN HANG OUT WITH THEMWHEN EVER THEY COME TO TOWN . ALOT OF SWINGERS TRAVEL ALL OVER . FOR FUN OR WORK . AND ALOT OF THEM COME TO OUR ARE CAUSE WE HAVE ALOT OF SWINGERS CLUBS AND NUDIEST RESORTS HERE . SO PEOPLE TRAVEL TO COME HERE ALL THE TIME . THERE IS SOME THAT COME EVERY WEEKEND . SO WE DONT JUDGE PEOPLE BY HOW FAR THEY LIVE AWAY FROM US . CAUSE THAT CAN CHANGE ANY DAY . IF THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THE SAME THINGS AS IN FRIENDSHIP AND THEY ARE RESPECTFUL AND FUN WE WILL CHAT AND STUFF LIKE THAT . WHEN THEY COME HERE THEN WE MIGHT PLAY OR NOT DEPENDING ON THE PEOPLE . BUT I DONT HAVE TIME TO TRAVEL TO GO TO PEOPLE. AND IAMNOT TO WORRIED ABOUT HOOKING UP TO DO THAT EITHER . THE LIFE STYLE IS ALOT MORE TO US THEN JUST HOOKING UP AND GETTING SOME ONE NEW TOPLAY WITH . SO I SEE NO REASON TO TRAVEL TO ANYONE . TAMPA IS FULL OF SWINGERS THAT LIVE HERE AND TRAVEL HERE . WE JUST SAY LET US KNOW WHEN U COME TO TOWN AND WE WILL TELL U WHAT PARTIES ARE PLAN THEN . IF U WANT TO HANG OUT THEN GREAT . IF NOT HOPE YOUR VISIT HERE IS GREAT ! BUT PLEASE DONT TAKE OUR FREAKS BACK HOME WITH U . LEAVE THEM HERE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE .......... HA HA HA HA NAUGHTY DREAMS FREAKY KITTY

seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? - I am 52, and considered a senior or close to it, and i have had more pus----y than a lot of these kids who think they are all that. I have my memories of the 20year olds I have been with and they remember me too. though they are now 40. Age isnt that important.I dont feel insulted by the discussion at all.

Info for Noobs - - Bored at work today so I thought I would share some thoughts, since I know you have all been waiting for me to say something more. Don't deny it. :) I figured I would share some insights for noobs or just anyone else who will connect with our experiences. I already posted the 101 of what I thought was important, so this will be less rules and more insight. We seem to meet a lot of people who are just beginning and they always have the same questions. So.... The first thing to realize is that swingers are just like everyone else, just kinkier. They don't all fuck sheep (some do) or masterbate in public ( I do), but for the most part are just regular citizens who happen to like exciting sexual adventures. For the most part people are not very pushy, and if they are, you can quickly diffuse them just by being direct and telling them where you stand, or lie, or bend over. :) If they don't, probably a creepy couple who you don't want to see anyway. Most of the house parties we have been to are fairly mellow. Apart from the nakedness there doesn't seem to be a lot of random acts of sex happening all over the place. So don't be afraid to go to the parties, but ask before you go what the party is like. Nobody will rape you unless you like that sort of thing. We were so nervous during our first party that we sat in the car drinking until some people we knew walked us in. By the end of the night, I was the only one in my underwear. Awkward. Not really. There isn't a magical solution to meeting people. You have to make contact, talk to them and eventually meet, hopefully in an environment where you have a quick route of escape if needed. We used to invite new couples to our house for a hot tub night but quickly realized if there was no attraction for us, it was often times hard to politely get them to leave. So coffee, drinks something simple is best. We have met some of our greatest friends in the LS and are sure to meet more. The people tend to be open minded, friendly, educated and fun to be around. So even if you don't intend on playing with someone you might keep the option open for a lasting friendship, though some on the site are definitely NOT looking for that. You can figure that out pretty quickly. The Sinful parties are a great, no pressure way to meet people. Shout out to J & A (and M, I never forget M). :) The Orchard parties tend to get a little more rambunctious, but only upstairs, at least at the venue by Brewvies. So it is also a good place to go if you want to just chill, or if you want to be a little more daring and see sex or have sex. We haven't been to as many manor parties, but they are well done and seem casual as well. Don't think we have ever seen any sexual acts and Manor. Habits is definitely turning out to be a swinger's hangout. Saturdays seem to be the biggest turnout for the LS. Can be some creepers there but for the most part is fun and entertaining. Not our favorite but will do in a pinch. Our name is SameRoomOnly because when we started we were only having sex with each other, in front of others and figured we would never full swap. We learned quickly that rules are easily broken and that it is best to learn to communicate on the spot in any situation. We use hand gestures and do have a few code words if needed, though typically most people are very happy to hear open communication about what others in the situation want. We certainly do. If you don't want that ninth orgasm in a row, just tell me, I will back off. No hard feelings. Well, we have come a long way from SameRoomOnly. And here we are. Maybe a bit smarter, a lot kinkier and have a lot of fun experiences behind and ahead of us. I am raising my imaginary glass of bourbon to all of you we have met and to the good times. Cheers.

Joking around with the wife - - I told him I would put a pineapple and if he removed it, I would put it again but upside down lol he actually liked it but it was bare so I added a little depth of a fallen pineapple.... mostly for fun, not necessarily to post a huge "we are swingers" sign.

Franknfelicity - Honesty - As per a recent request I will post that this is a local issue in Utah, And I suppose I should expect the anonymity that is so precious to all the closet swingers in this area. I apologize to those from outside our twilight zone. But also envy your freedom of choice without judgment

Why do they run? - Why do most couples run when you suggest a real full swap? - We would not go for that. And a couple with whom we play did that for awhile and it damned near wrecked their marriage. What you are talking about is very close to just plain cheating. Successful couples, swingers or vanilla, are generally inward looking, looking at one another to the exclusion of the world or back to back facing the world together. From our point of view, at least, swinging is merely an extension of sex for fun in which other people take the place of toys. We don\'t for one moment forget that they are people and not actually toys but in termns of our own relationship they are peripheral though they may also be good friends. To split as a couple so that each may go his or her own way later to regale the other with his or her exploits doesn\'t work. I don\'t want my wife to tell me about her antics with another man. I want to see her with another man.

Any Swingers out there? Golf swingers that is... - - Im always "up" for a couple of rounds! LOL The weather does suck in SLC, so I came to St. George for the week (but if freakin rained all day here too!) Im heading to Vegas for the weekend for some golf and hopefully for some sin in sin city!