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The definition of cheating - - Interesting discussion. Certainly from a relationship standpoint the classic definition of cheating is being with someone other than your partner physically and/or emotionally. As swingers, however, we often hold ourselves above others and fall back on the lying and/or sneaking around aspect. Personally I feel that being dishonest with the person you hold most dear in this life to be the essence of cheating for me. When information is withheld you take away that person's prerogative to choose whether or not to stay in the relationship with you based on your actions outside of the relationship. There are a million ways people rationalize cheating. I find that a person's attitude towards cheating is a very good litmus test for the depth of their character. Now should we talk about cheating on a test or cheating other people out of their hard earned money? How about cheating on your taxes or at a poker game with friends? At what point DOES cheating become morally reprehensible or should it be "all's fair in love and war" and "every man (or woman) for himself"? Or as SIRNEWBY asserts, is self deception/lying/cheating really the only valid metric? Or did I misunderstand your point, SN? It would be interesting to get feedback from people (I'm sure there are plenty) who've been cheated on.
Swingers Dares - Text for cards in the game - How about the dare to where the person must allow not only ice on a nipple, but why not expand it to genitals, while your get the help of two others in the group to do the nipples - LOL
That is 4-play (four people - LOL) where they can select the ones they want then to do this. So Pleasure and pain!
You can do something with candle wax too - well not on the genitals :P
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - [quote=SoScrewMe]We have an amazing group that get together often it is awesome, but unfortunately we are in Lehi.[/quote]
We want to part of your group, more often than we have been..
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - I want it SOOOOO bad. My husband finally agreed and changed our profile to him being bi comfortable so people know he will do that. I CAN"T wait to have two cocks inside my pussy ;-)
Single Men Meeting Couples - Are Single Men Treated Un Fairly In The Lifestyle - ______________________________________________________________________________
** "Swinging" is just a different word for "swapping" and you can't swap if you bring nothing to the table. **
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NOT. Swinging is absolutely NOT about simply swapping. DON JUAN was absoltely correct. The women are NOT commodities to be traded amongst the men in the clubs and at the parties, but many of you devalue yourselves by assuming that submissive role.
Swinging is about choice. Thats is why the term "lifestyle" was coined in the early 80's; it's a way of life. If a single man is not to be considered a "real" swinger, then single women should not be considered "real" swingers either. What more does a single woman have to bring to the table than a single man? Do you think that these women do not represent the same set of issues that the men do?
The clubs, the parties, the events...these activities are driven by the WOMEN who particpate. The clubs will allow single women in for next to nothing for a couple of good reasons. The first of which is obvios; without a room full of hot women dressed in almost nothing, you would have a room full of nt so hot men, all standing around waiting for the woen to arrive. It would be like a middle school dance. Or a gay club full of str8 men. The second reason is even more simple. They attract MEN who spend MONEY. Single MEN and married MEN alike. The lifestyle is financed by MEN.
MEN who are willing to pay TOP dollar for the chance to meet with couples in the club. And let's face it, the guys who can afford to go on a regular basis are really the ones (if you are interested in single men anyway) that you would want to meet with, unlike a towel shark from the local adult arcade.
MEN who accompany their wives to the club to meet with other couples for the evening. These married men often spend (on average) $200 to $300 in a single night.
WOMEN are the EYE CANDY that keeps the party going. MEN do not want to go to a party that is full of other MEN, but they want to see EYE CANDY. So they are willing to pay to do it.
Mrs. Luvbugs! is a bartender, and a good one at that. She makes more part time than most degreed professionals (including me! humph!) do working full time. Why? She is very attractive. She is outgoing. She knows her stuff. She understands that SEX SELLS, and that her clients are there to see HER as much as drink a jack and coke. I have seen men sit at her bar, stare at her all night, run up a $100 tab, and leave her $30. Thats average...do that 20 to 30 times a night and what do you get? All for the privelege of being served by HER. I wouldnt do it, even if I were single. But then, I dont have to either, so who knows? THEY constitute the LION SHARE of her business, and her livelyhood.
The lifestyle is not different. We need these guys at the clubs. We need them to pay for memberships on our websites. They too are the oil that lubes the machine.
Sorry, but thats how it is.
Luvbugs! (mR.)
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Swinger & 🦄 Bait - An experiment to attract swingers and unicorns. - unicorn bait won't tell lure me in;)
Jewellery, logos, etc to identify other swingers - We would like info on websites catering to discreet items to let others "know" we are in the lifestyle - you know thinking about a Necklasce or a Bracelet would be cool something for the girls and the guy not just one
Are you more or less tolerant? - - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]We think that in regards to your own appearance that you just cannot take the negativity that will be thrown your way too seriously. When we first formed this profile there was a group that threw parties that had a strict "undressed code" as to how you should look naked. A lot of people understandably got offended and there was a lot of banter and unfriendliness in the forums. We actually got several invitations, from some members of that group to join. We declined the invitations but we were surprised we were invited. For all the banter back and forth we would not have been welcome due to our age and or some sort of flaw in the body. Perhaps the exclusivity was the sell point and the members were more average than you would expect. Not that there is anything wrong with average. What the hell is average appearance anyway? Acceptance meant you were a notch above the rest in the eyes of the members as in the only true swingers. Does feeling sexy about yourself have to come at the expense of others? I do not know if that group still exist anymore. The founder fell in love and went monogamous last I knew. Well about that same time we submitted application as it were to join an older longer established group that puts together parties because we thought the parties looked like fun. About 60 days after our submission to join the group was sent we got back an e-mail declining our participation. We could get upset and lose time and joy wondering if we just were not sexy enough to be considered among the elite or we could just move on and know we were still going to find new and exciting people and adventures anyway. The real reasons for denial are only found within the person or persons that said no and if they have their reasons those same reasons do not make them bad people. I like to think that way at least. Mrs. Delicious just told me, as she was walking out the door to an appointment, that if they don't like her there must be something wrong with them. We can imagine until the cows come home and we will probably never guess right and it really does not matter anyway. I like to think the group, that told us no, is fun and is having fun but will just not know us. You cannot be part of everything anyway. The tendency for us to imagine that any group that might reject us is full of miserable losers that would not know sexy if it bit them is not good for us and the no was probably delivered with a lot less intolerance than we are imagining. I think we should concentrate on discovering more joy by fully focusing on the doors that are open to us. We are all going to get rejected from time to time and it might hurt but don't dwell on it. Opportunities to connect and to live and love surround us all.
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Well written my friend and as a single male in this lifestyle this is something that needs to be preached and practiced
Salt Lake Arts fest. - Wouldn't it be fun to get a bunch of us to meet up in the beer garden and take on the art festr - 7946437 bracelets are the swingers "live strong" type bracelets.... The numbers are the letters corresponding if you were texting...
Have you ever... - - Saw this on myspace and thought it was interesting enough to post here and see what everyone's answers might be. Enjoy!
Fess up about your sexual history. Are you a flirt? A prude? A slut? A nympho? Please be as descriptive as you like.
(For the purposes of the quiz, 'sex' counts as genital contact with insertion.
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Had sex outside? Y or N
Had sex in public? (movie theater, concert, theme park) Y or N
Had sex in an unusual location? Y or N
Had a threesome? Y or N
A foursome? Y or N
More than a foursome? Y or N
Had a happy ending? Y or N
Been tied up? Y or N
Tied someone up Y or N
Been to a sex club / swingers club? Y or N
Watched a porno? Y or N
Been in a porno? Y or N
Wore a costume / role played during sex? Y or N
Recieved a spanking? Y or N
Given a spanking? Y or N
Paid for sex? Y or N
Had sex with someone you weren't attracted to / didn't like? Y or N
Had sex with someone you didn't know / just met? Y or N
Traveled more than 50 miles to have sex? Y or N
How many States / Countries have you had sex in?
Favorite position?
Had a 'nooner'? (skipped out of work / school to go have sex and then returned) Y or N
Had sex at work? Y or N
With a co-worker? Y or N
Slept your way to the top? Y or N
Preferred location of "money shot"?
Women - sexiest outfit / lingerie you own? describe in detail
Men - best pickup line?
Preferred hairstyle? (on you and on others) Shaved bare? Landing strip? 70's fro? Other style?
Underwear choice? Ganny panties / tightie whiteys? Thong? G-string? Commando?
Easiest way to get you turned on?
Worst mood killer?
Preferred style? Soft and romantic? Wham Bam Thank You Ma'am? Hard and fast? Hair pulling, ass spanking deep and rough?
Piercings?
Tattoos?
Shoes / socks on or off?
Do you fantasize about other people when having sex with your spouce / usual partner? Y or N
Who is your fantasy partner?
Describe the perfect sexual encounter...
Willing to give me your answers in person? Naked?
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