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Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - Hello All, I would like to put down some of my (KinkyJoker) thoughts on this thread and some of the posts here. I fully agree with the post & poem from SNS2N1. Memorial day is not my day, it is the day that I thank my Brothers & Sisters that have given their all. I would also like to point out that while most believe that a Military member is willing to give their life for thier family, the fact is that they are willing to give that life for their comrads. I have yet to ever hear of a Soldier, Sailor, Airman, or Marine that was thinking of home when they jumped on a Granade/pushed their buddy out of the line of fire/rushed a bunker full of automatic weapons/willing ran in to a hail of bullets to grab a wounded buddy, they were all thinking of saving the life or lives of their buddies. For them, I feel both the swelling and crushing of my heart at the rememberance of their deeds. Also, as stated by SNS2N1, the day for me as a Vet is Nov. 11th. I feel extra blessed because my birthday is the day before, Nov. 10th. Now while this is not the day I was physically brought into this world, it is the day of my birth into something that I will be until I leave this mortal plane. A Marine. However, to be fair, I am a Former Marine, and much to the shame of my best friends, I am now currently in the US Army Reserve. I fully thank the powers that be, that both of my best friends made it through Operation Iraqi Freedom unharmed, as well as the entire roster of my old unit. Now, on to Don Juan. Yes, I am willing to defend his right to show just how big of a self-centered, puesdo-intellectual, narrow minded little piss-ant that he is. Because of what he said I will not say that he must be a member of the Demorcrats (Sorry, Extreamly Liberal Republican here), nor will I make guesses at his orignal place of birth. However, I think that it is much further away then Great Britain, as in not from this planet. While I agree with the Chief, Sgt & Spc Cole, and RED64ANDME on what we should do with him, I have to point out that in order to truly fulfill our oaths, we need the politicians to state that he is a domestic enemy. That way when we stomp a Mudhole in his ass, we are not violating his rights. Now if you really want to do something to him, just pray that karma will come to him or that life will change to where stupidity really is painful, if not deadly. Reguards, Bryan AKA KinkyJoker AKA Spc. Oster (Soon to be MS II)

Too Many Fake People Here - Nobody really wants to fuck! - [quote=WILDONEZ2004][quote=TIFFND][quote=HAOPENGYOU]Before we moved to the coast 3 years ago, we were pretty active in the Utah lifestyle, and it definitely seemed more active and vibrant than it does now, at least insofar as we can judge from activity on this website. Back then we would regularly do things with the same three couples, all of whom we met on Swingular, and we notice now that two of their profiles are no longer here on this site. So you might be right, although we hope not, because we had a blast with this in Utah. When we did make the move out of Utah, we switched to another website, as Swingular is strongly Utah-centric. In fact, we've never had a single communication on Swingular from anywhere at all outside of Utah. Hey, if things get too sparse, come meet us in Portland, which apparently is the [url=https://www.prunderground.com/swingery-publishes-top-10-cities-with-the-most-swingers-in-the-us/00102465/]#1 swinger city in the country[/url]. We had no idea about that when we moved to Oregon, but we're not complaining. Go to Privata downtown if you ever have the chance. And if you ever tell anyone that you're not interested in a physical relationship with them, and they lose it (happened to us one time), then they're no one you wanted to hang with anyway. You'll do well to be rid of them. If any of you ever make it to the coast, you're invited to sip wine with us and watch whales from our deck. Best of luck to you. And Happy New Year.[/quote] Our point originally was that perhaps these people aren't really as fake, as they are private. I think the scene here is actually still doing quite well! It's just changing. In our case, we're just not as "out there" anymore as we used to be....And kind of feel like maybe that's true for a lot of folks. And maybe it's our age...we are 10 years older now...and not exactly in high demand. That said...we just may have to do a bit of whale watching in Portland, someday.....[/quote] When we started nearly 10 years ago, we made MANY more connections through this site. Now...not so much. We’ve changed. The scene has changed. I remember bi-guys being afraid to mention it for fear of outright hostility. We now prefer a connection, and to meet first to see if the connection is there, if they are in fact real, and to see if they “creep us out.” We do enjoy finding new friends, even if it is just for the night, all the better of more than that. And just finding people who are a bit more liberated to share some company even if there’s no play involved is also great. We have much more to offer than a good roll in the hay, as do most people, and the hay rolling is awesome, but enhanced by an intelectual and mutual respect.[/quote] Well said!

Bucket list - - [quote=swingsetacrobat4439][quote=PARTYINLV]Ours is to pick up a vanilla couple in a vanilla setting and convert them to the lifestyle with us being their first experience.[/quote] Check. We don't know if we converted them, but we are confident that we are their most interesting vacation story. 😉[/quote] We LOVE to pretend that we're vanilla and let people who are obvious swingers pick us up and "seduce" us (This is especially easy to do in Vegas for some reason.). It's really quite fun. Only once did we let the cat out of the bag and told them afterwards that we're actually seasoned swingers. They got quite pissed. [em]Emo_49[/em]

A fine line. - - Trying to stick to the OP intent here. [quote=CARRIERMANANDGEEKGIRL][quote=EVILDOERS] we often find it difficult to walk the fine line between being nice, polite, and social with other people when we do not actually feel an attraction to them. If we had a week at desires it would be easier to be nice and talk with everyone. However adult hours are not easy to come by so we do find this line hard. My wife will talk with a friendly person or couple the whole night. Even if the couple is in some committed deal. I have been working on getting her to direct her time on couples she can see us doing something mor. Or limit the time she spends and move along. Do you at some point just say honestly that while they are nice it just ain't gonna happen? We only feel this is needed it they ask us if we want to get a room. At that time you just have to say something and it is never easy. Do you make some sort of lame excuse and beat a hasty retreat hoping they will get the hint? Do you move on to another couple that you are attracted to and look annoyed when the first couple follows you around all night. Of course some people just won't take a hint or take "no" for an answer and for those you DO have to be blunt. This is one method that does seem to work. It is easier if you do it early on in the timeline like the first 5 mins or less. So what techniques do y'all use in situations like this? How do you be nice to others without necessarily encouraging them? [b]Seriously? I mean, you don't know how to interact with others and carry on a conversation without having them believe you want to hop in the sack with them?[/b] Its not that easy.. How do you walk over to a couple and start to talk to them at a swingers party and not have them think you want the Mor?

Search abilities for international swingers. - Just a suggestion. - Hi. Good to see that we are not the only ones that like to see intenational couples on swingular. Yes, we joined swingular for the international touch and hope to stay there for a long time. We are not only interested in ex. dutch swingers living in the USA, but in every swinger couple worldwide. Its so interesting to get in contact with international swingers. They still belong to our best friends. And having contact with a native swinger from another country, whats a better way to learn more. A swingers hug from the NEtherlands. BEa and Alex

Single Males - - [quote=CTA313][quote=EVILDOERS] ...get a girl to join you....Not only do you now "bring more to the table", but you have the added credibility that if you can find and finesse a girl into joining you in this little adventure we call swinging (whether it be a girlfriend, a wife, a second cousin twice removed, or just a hot fwb) you might just not be a giant douchecopter.[/quote] Ignoring the need to "finesse" someone and unhealthy gender stereotypes in general, this line of reasoning is a little troubling as it presumes that a male's company is inherently worth less. Or that an absence of semi-romantic relationships somehow speaks poorly of his character. I personally think approaching someone whom you aren't already fairly close with and soliciting to go to a swingers party is a bit out of line. Especially if her company is sought as an accessory to demonstrate to others that he is not, as you say, “a douchecopter”. Call me old-fashioned. [quote=EVILDOERS] I know we can't be the only people who secretly wonder just a little bit about some single guys and why they aren't with somebody. Do they secretly hate women (yes, we've met some that actually do), are they just too lazy (or busy, maybe...but hey, we're all busy) to find someone, are they serial killers and/or just not very nice guys? [/quote] Oh, I hope you are! That's a really unfortunate outlook to have. Promising relationships take time to find, let alone build to the requisite amount of trust and stability to try things like this. In the mean time, I don't see anything wrong with someone pursuing their interests while still holding out for someone worthy of their emotional investment. To me, that behavior is quite attractive should be respected! It doesn't get any better than someone who is confident, self-actualized, and motivated to pursue their desires. Sadly, it sounds their gender influences whether this is seen as a desirable trait. I'm not sure how long you've been out of things (30 years?), but it's easy to forget the struggle when you're comfortable in a marriage. Things are more fluid. People don't feel the need to settle down like they used to. [quote=EVILDOERS]I know many will say they've tried and swinging is a deal breaker for most women. After almost 3 decades in the swinging trenches meeting and talking to other people, both couples and singles, we would disagree....many, if not most, women could eventually come around to the idea of swinging once they feel safe and secure in a relationship.[/quote] This is just confirmation bias if the evidence comes from a sample of people you have met while swinging. [quote=EVILDOERS]...those of us who DID put in all the blood, sweat, and tears into a relationship and allow it to grow to the point of daring (don't think for a second we aren't risking a LOT in opening up our relationships to other people!) to allow others access to our significant other sometimes wonder why some others want to take a shortcut to all the sweet swinging bennies with little or no risk on their own part.[/quote] If you're not comfortable sharing your wife with someone you might view as a potential competition, you definitely don't have to. On the other hand, there are a lot of people enjoy it :) This smacks of the old “you must suffer as I did” chestnut. [/quote] Yes, I agree, "finesse" was a poor choice of words. In my defense, I was at work and rather in a hurry to make a point...that apparently I didn't make well (and my attempts to also be humorous apparently fell flat too). Rereading my post it does smack a little of mild gender bias but I can assure you that it wasn't my intent in any way and most certainly is not my outlook on women, relationships or life in general. My intent was simply to advocate approaching swinging as a mutually desirable activity that two partners desire and share equally in. And not that it matters, but I've shared my wife with probably over a hundred men, married and single, and I've never thought of any of them as competition. But I never thought of swinging as "sharing" my wife either, but instead as her deciding to be sexual with another person and me being totally okay with her decision to do so. Sharing her, to me, almost denotes some sort of ownership or at very least some kind of permission that I would have to give. Both those ideas are not a part of our relationship. Perhaps the concept of "competition" in swinging interactions is a single male attitude? I don't know. And I didn't mean it in any way, shape, or form as a "you must suffer as I did" trope but simply as the idea that we invested a LOT of hard work and time making our marriage what it is and together deciding to risk opening it up to the excitement and also the possibility of harm that is swinging. I think, perhaps, that sometimes single people in the lifestyle don't quite understand the very real possibility of permanent damage (or worse) to the relationship that couples who swing are flirting with. For many (most?) of us, our marriages/relationships are THE most precious thing we have. What, if anything, are you risking? A bruised ego?

My first time... - - Tell us about your first time. Was it absolutely spectacular? Was it, "Meh". Was it horrible? A comedy of errors? Was it on your wedding night? In the back seat of a tiny compact car? Was it with your spouse? With "the one who got away"? Was it in college or high school? Junior High? GRADE SCHOOL?!!? Did you cum? Did you THINK maybe you came...sorta? Did it turn you into a sex fiend? Did it kind of turn you off from sex? Did you wonder what all the fuss was about? Was it with your fiance? Your boy/girlfriend? Your cousin?!!? Did you get caught? Did you use birth control? Did you try oral sex for the first time as well? Did you get completely naked? Just naked enough to expose the important parts? Would you want to go back and relive or redo it? Just thought it would be fun to hear about and reminisce about our first times and see if we could find any commonalities that turned us all into perverted swingers.[em]Emo_49[/em]

Meet and Greet/Play party - swingers party - Meet and greet/ hotel party The Golden Nugget bar Ramada Inn Pocatello 1-208-237-0020 133 West Burnside Interstate 86 Exit 61, Pocatello, ID 83202 US Ladies and gentlemen, we “Fifty shadesoffucking” kik group would like to invite you join us at the Ramada Inn bar “The Golden Nugget” one of our group members did some footwork and found that the bar is back open and they will work with us . In light of losing our hotel for parties after last year’s debacle. The bar will cater to us and they have made arrangements for us to get a block of rooms at 55$ a night the only drawback is Saturday nights they host Hispanic dances there so we booked a Friday night to see how things work out. This is also a cash only bar, knowing ahead of time will keep issues from transpiring. This is really a trial run to see if it is feasible for future events, the more the merrier. When making reservations please tell the front desk it is for the party on the 24th in “The Golden Nugget” there are 10 rooms set aside but more can be added to the promotion we are getting. The bar managers set everything up for us they are very willing to work with us and yes they know what kind to parties we will be having.

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - A car is a cage. So many swingers ride that there is a separate MC club for them "Swingers on Bikes"...

Other Swinger sites in Utah - Anyone tell us of other sites? - [quote=SUENDAN]Here are the sites we use and our username there. Look us up and we'll show you around (couples only) swinglifestyle.com 2NParadisse. They offer lifetime membership. One of the best sites ever for USA and Canada, eh? aff.com 2NParadisse and DanNSuzy. If you sing up as a couple your membership will turn into a gold membership after about a month. Don't spend your money there on memberships, just wait until your profile turns into a gold profile and you'd have access to everything. We've been there since 1998 lol. Still a very good site, always evolving and we meet new people there often. Met our first couple there. Good globally also a few profiles from Mars. sdc.com FlorDCanela. I think this site is best for the East Coast. We meet people there occasionally. U have to pay. kasidie.com 2NParadisse. not our cup of tea but sometimes good for party info. Some people in SoCal swear by it. reddit.com the swingersr4r and other subreddits FunMachina. We had been super lucky there for over a year meeting couples in their 20's lol. This is a free and unexploited gem. In Spain we used onswingers.com FlorDCanela. very good but limited to Spain and is in Spanish. UK/Europe c4fonline.com - not so good for us when we were in Spain. fling.com some people contacted us from there once. Locanto.com kinda like what CL used to be. Not much going on there. Weirdos. https://www.newbienudes.com/ has some potential. I just have not looked into it yet because we always have something going on when we decide to get out and play. Regular dating apps like tinder, kindle.. you can open a profile of your lady seeking other ladies, just say that you are married and hubby wants to join too. And then... Bingo! You entered the Unicorn Realm! Also non website nor non swinger party contacts: Just take your lady to a strip joint and have her make friends with the girls. This works good in SoCal where girls are less professional. Could work in Vegas but good luck, they are real hustlers there. Also, the wife and I were on a non-swingers date the just 2 of us, went to have a beer and play pool. This other couple was checking us out. We started chatting normally and pleasantly. The girl told me my wife was very cute. So, I told the girl, "my wife just said the same about you, how funny!" Ended up MFMF later at their place. UPDATES: Lifestylelounge.com: use it if is free. otherwise not worth a penny. old profiles, abandoned page. trueswingers.com review coming soon. bisexualplayground.com met a couple there once. Not sure if still up. alt.com seen it looks like whips and chains stuff. Gone but not forgotten: Craigslist Personals. Those were good to meet couples but tons of weirdos. SwingDater.com met a long term couple there. playersxchange.com a buddy's site. gone. swingerads.com We don't do much apps. [/quote]Wow how do you manage being on all those?