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RV Swingers? - - Well, shortly the wife and I will be buying a new RV and traveling full time for a few years. Is there anyone from the lifestyle that are full timers? We are pretty excited to get out and travel some and meet new peeps.
Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what.
I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused..
One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on.
You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden..
Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement.
In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that...
Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... .
So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them.
Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination....
We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced...
I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..
Bi-Sexuality - A question for the girls of swingular - So it's a BENCH of single males and what, a swarm of swingers? "Mayhem" sounds WAY more descriptive, by the way, from everything you've told me. [em]Emo_49[/em]
Single Guy Rant - Probably not for everybody - So I'm thinking, how bad must I look at 51?!? And another thing, how could I possibly meet someone out of the lifestyle whom I may introduce to swinging? I have found that the biggest issue with non-swingers is sex. I have thought that maybe it is just the cheating sex they don't like but I don't think that's gonna fly.
threesome or bang - where do I find these men? - Yea swingular.com has been noticeably a big thing for utah swingers. Or maybe thats because I see them most often? Though doesn't explain the single male idiots jumping up to raise their hands in fucking Clearfield or SLC UT. I'm sure she's eager to wait for you guys to visit southern Illinois.... read you fucks. Anyways. I'm familiar with that area as when I was living in Cleveland I had a girlfriend in Effingham. Sadly your bets bet on here is reaching out to a st Louis group. Or try another site. The reply above mentioned a good one in your area. Which I find to be typically the best route. (Whats popular in your are*) though I'm sure you could use plenty of others as well. Fet has a reasonable means of reaching someone though I found better and stronger responses on here and again its because utah seems to be a massive swingular pop. And failing fet. aff, tinder, etc .
Black Ring - Who has theirs and how have they caught on? - You should try wearing an anklet (ankle bracelet). Works just like a black ring (at least according to an almost identical thread over on another swing site we're on). Oh, and carry a pineapple and/or one of those plastic pink flamingos that go in your yard. All of these are supposedly sure fire ways to spot other swingers.
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I'mma start one where you have to carry around an opened box of Cocoa Pebbles, with a naked Barbie doll upside down inside of it while whistling the opening aria from Rigoletto. [em]Emo_67[/em]
upside down pineapple? - - Upside-down pineapples (Or sometimes even right-side-up ones.). Black rings. Pink flamingos in the front yard. Ankle bracelets (Who knew how many Jr. High girls were hotwives! :-O). We always laugh a little when somebody "discovers" these supposedly surefire ways to tell if your neighbors or the cute couple sitting across the restaurant are swingers.
It's even funnier when someone makes up their own and tries to make it a thing. When we first started in the lifestyle (Back around the time of Noah and his Magic Zoo Boat.) it was supposedly a necklace with a pendant of an apple with a bite out of it.
Best swingers club for a 26m/36f couple - - [quote=Mrnmrsb]I would recommend playhousLV for people your age. Just my personal experience. We've been to all of the above mentioned ones in vegas and the crowd at those clubs were much older. PlayhouseLV has been amazing every time we've been. Always a good crowd of attractive younger people. Lots of play spaces and always a ton of people playing. We get lucky every time we go there. When we went to flirts all older people literally just hanging at the bar drinking. I kid u not. Not a single room was being utilized to play in. EXTREMELY BORING. Whispers we left 5 minutes after walking through the door because the crowd was much older. And not very attractive.[/quote]Agree with you on this! Flirts definitely depends on the night and if you went when it was newer it may have been that way. Still a little older crowd but when we went last time we had to wait to use a bed/room!
Would You Tap That? - - [img]http://i.ytimg.com/vi/mkUoJPh_y3M/maxresdefault.jpg[/img]
1) All day long and twice on Sunday.
2) Meh, I've seen better...Deanie Wimmer is a total NILF (newscaster I'd like to fuck).
3) I would SO tap that. And I'd make her bark like a dog (best Bill Murray [Carl Spackler] voice).
4) You are rude, Evil. Heidi is just doing her job. Swingers ARE kinda disgusting ya know.
5) No but I'd do that guy...or maybe have a threeway with them.
6) She makes me want to go on a crime spree so she can track me down and "interview" me.
7) I wanna see her nude mud wrestle Shauna Lake!
8) No, but Hope Woodside gives me...wood!
9) Kerri Cronk turns MY crank!
10) We're meeting Heidi and her hubby for drinks at Habits tonight.
11) Don't know about Heidi but I wanna make Kevin Eubank my little sissy bitch!
Btw, in case you can't tell, in the above pic Mark Koelbel is under the desk givin' Heidi an anal 'oil check' with his middle finger. She's shocked and surprised because usually Rod Decker does that.
[em]Emo_96[/em]
So what attracted you to swinging and at what point in your life - - I married the man who helped me escape my virginity....we were each others first time. We had college friends who were swingers and when I started to feel trapped and agitated about monogamy at age 21, it was natural for us to consider the lifestyle as the best of both worlds.
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