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Hollywood Swingers? - - I believe Gene Simmins and his lovely Gal are but i don't think that is news to anybody,,I'm not Famous but I was in that band Wall Of Voodoo who did that song "Mexican Radio"

Creating an Amazing Swingers Profile - How to market yourself better - [quote=BMSHELL]I think my advice above boils down to: 1) Be honest.. Don't try to mislead people about who or what you are. 2) Make an effort to give others a chance to get to know you and trust you. 3) Don't be gross. And this stuff is nothing more than my opinion.. While I would love a world where everyone is required to agree with me, that probably won't happen for at least 5 more years, if things continue to go well. ;)[/quote]What'd people beat up on you for your suggestions or something? [em]Emo_54[/em] I liked 'em and thought them useful. Our profile used to include mostly goofiness -- but then that was OK 'cause that's pretty much been our approach to this whole swingin' thing. It's not all that important in the scheme of things and seems to always work out best for us if we don't take it or ourselves too seriously. We're pretty comfy with where we're at now with friends and all -- so I've toned it down to reflect that but if I were back into a voracious hunt again I'd certainly take your remarks into consideration. Good stuff! :)

Here's something Ive been curious about - - Congrats on 10 years in the lifestyle, SLOW. We're old timers as well and have been doing this off and on since shortly after we got married. Over 25 years now! So I guess I can sort of see both points of view and contrary to the current rather negative societal attitude towards political correctness I have no trouble being firmly on the side of being kind to people and not labeling or belittling anyone regarding their participation in the lifestyle. Having said that, however, I can also see the viewpoint of some couples since when we first started swinging there really were no singles (or at least so few that we never met any) actively participating in the lifestyle. A few years later we met a few singles who would, say, hire a hooker to gain access to parties and events or sometimes convince a friend to act as sort of a swinging "beard" if you will, again to gain entry to swinging events. This was all pre-internet so connecting was considerably more difficult than it is now. To say that the internet changed swinging (for better or worse) is a HUGE understatement. I was talking to a guy (formerly single but now in a couple) recently about his experiences as both a SM and a couple in the lifestyle. His attitude had actually changed dramatically. It reminded me of former smokers who now are militantly anti-smoking. His argument (now that he's no longer single) was to take the couples and the singles and put them on separate websites and what do you have? He said you have a swingers site and a hookup site. I told him that there are some couples who actually seek out singles over other couples but he wasn't easily dissuaded. One final point he made that I thought perhaps was a valid point...he said when he first started out as a SM in swinging he thought that all or most of the married guys who enjoyed seeing their wives getting fucked were basically cuckolds or at very least not real men. He said it took him many years and a lot of different experiences to lose that mindset. He also said that now that he's part of a couple who is frequently contacted by single guys he sees that attitude (because he recognizes it from when he had it) far more often than not. He stated that he would guess that the VAST majority of those single guys who don't "get it", the bad apples if you will, the ones who ruin it for the few good guys have that attitude and mindset. He said that's why there will probably always be somewhat of a schism between singles and couples. Whew, that was a long fucking post. Hope it made sense. No more herb before posting, Mr. Evil! LOL

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Swingers unnerve families at hotel - - You have that right, Fun4u, so sensational that it was used as one of the headline stories on the local news broadcast by at least one of the television stations here in St. Louis, MO, this morning. Four day old news, from a 1000 miles away, don\'t they have somthing more important to tell us?

What are swingers really looking for ?Are they looking for frien - Has the happen to you. - so i went to read your profile, it is clear once you read it all, and people should if they are going to contact you... in my opinion, (rich), you have a lot of words there, makes lazy people skip some... even though it is clear at the top, you might want to steamline your ad, so the things that are most important stand out... think of it as effenciency advertising. there are a few sights which also might better serve your needs at this time, (the ladiesclub dot com , and rainbowfriendfinder dot com) will most likely help to find what you are currently looking for... and you can go to singles sights as well, they let women sign up free normally, and you can ad for a girl, the last thing i can think of is you joining yahoo groups and such dealing with that matter... hope this advise helps... rich of richandchris

seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? -

KITTY,

You seem to be a very presumptuous person. I was born in South Carolina and have lived there on and off. I was also a soldier for a time in the south. I am not from Utah. I have only been here for a little over a year. I was raised in Oregon. I have lived in both extremes. I have seen both sides of the world. I could care less what you are apologetic for. The bottom line is, that a Southerner's shit stinks just like everyone elses. They have and still commit atrocities in the South, just like anywhere else. Just as there are people that are hospitable in all of the world. Southern Hospitality is no more present than Northern Hospitality. Where you are from says nothing about the individual. If you understood any of what I said, you would know that. Your post suggested that the state you live in has something to do with your tact. That is absolute disinformation. It is propagandist intolerant garbage. All states have their assholes and their good people. I would also like to say that Liberalism or Conservatism also have nothing to do with it. All you are proving is that you, like most other are biased based upon your affiliations. Is that bad??? No. Just don't try and convince everyone that you are somehow better based upon your locale or political affiliation. We are all human. We shit, eat, sleep, hate, love, laugh and cry the same. You are no better than the next. Remember, it was you that was making the bold statement that where you were from had something to do with your tact. So, before you imply that I am somehow bitching at you for expressing your opinion remember, you posted it for others to reply, that is the point of this forum. I am after all giving my opinion as well. So feel free to post whatever you wish, as I am doing the same. Thank you.
-Don- P.S. It is bad form or improper etiquette to type in all caps when posting in a forum or chat, as it is considered yelling when doing so. I figured you would like to know, given the subject of etiquette and tact. Oh and it was Bobby McFerrin that said, "Don't Worry Be Happy". Bob Marley said, "No Woman, No Cry". LOL!

BBW Couples in Salt Lake Area? - Newbies - Hey guys, My wife and I are completely newbies to the swingers lifestyle, we have had couple of threesomes fmf and some soft swap with another couple. We would like to find and develop friendships with BBW females and BBW couples, and take it to the next level. We have the idea of making friends in/out bedroom and have lots of fun. We have tried Craiglist before with no luck we realized theres nothing safer than this. Feel free to message us, send us a friend request. Thank you.

New Yorker Shutting down - - [quote=FantasiesofSLC]You sound like someone who visited Epstein's Island. Even though there is evil there, it's okay because I had fun.[/quote] But that would be “taking the moral high ground” and “hypocritical” because we are swingers we can’t have standards or morals! Yes everyone has a line and it’s ok to have that line, but when the ATF or other federal agencies get involved we are out. Call us hypocrites.

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