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The thin line in the sand. - Where does "cheating" begin? - I wrote this somewhere else...but hopefully it fits here. "Fidelity. What is it? Most of you (some of you) might think I'm gonna come off as a hypocrite on this one. But please, bear with me. Fidelity is a key issue with me in relationships. It's one of the only lines that exist that is an instant kill switch. I've been in relationships where I've had to pull that switch and watch the bodies fall. Then again, I look at the insane stance I take in my "Sexual Play" life. Swingers. Kink that plays with submissives. Dangerous, flirtatious chat. Both Domme and I have regular communication with past lovers. Yet...faithful. How does that make sense you ask? Even when "Swinging" or involved in Kink "play" we always play together. Our communications are open. And in the end it all comes down to one very simple thing. Trust. So where does that leave Fidelity? As a personal choice between two consenting adults." That's my line...hope it helps! -Mr. K_T

Couples erotic massage? - - I've tried to schedule one as well. Lots of flakey "massage people". I like the idea of two couples just swapping partners and giving each others other a massage. Same room could make it even more fun. I'm up for that I even have 2 masssge tables if anyone is interested. Massage with a swingers couple sounds fun.

The epitome of poor taste - - What surprises me most about some of the "swingers" is the lack of open-mindedness. You don't have to like our appearance, but, fuck, try and get to know someone's personality sometime. Even if you don't attract sexually, at least you gave it an effort, you never know unless you try. We had the pleasure of meeting NP and several others at the big Swingular party, and we had a fucking great time just chatting and getting to know one another. Where is it written that swinging means you automatically spread your legs for others. We are not that type of swinging couple, we prefer to get to know a little about the couple or group first. Physical appearance is part of it, but, arouse me with intellect and personality, and I am yours! :) Ron

Questions about the Lifestyle. - Should we get in or not? - Well, I went touring with a couple of bands when I was just a lad, and discovered the wonderful world of no strings attached sex, bisexual women, orgies and such. It was just a couple of years but it did put an interesting finish on my late teens and early twenties. In my mid twenties I fell head over heals in love with a 19 year old virgin, who was saving herself for marriage, so I married her. The marriage has been fantastic as has been the sex. We had a bunch of kids and enjoyed great monogamous sex for over twenty years. As the kids were beginning to become happy and successful adults, we sort of decided to consider acting on some fantasies we had discussed. That was about 2005 we think. We got an invitation to a meet and greet they used to have at a place called Club Vegas, and we met a few swingers. We had one hook up with a couple where nobody got around to actually saying lets get naked, even though we all wanted to. Our next encounter ended up to be really sexual, as in there was full swap sex. It was the first time Mrs. Delicious every had sex with anyone other than myself. It went swimmingly well. Soooo, we hooked up a lot at first, in quite a few scenarios, with couples and or singles. There were a few difficult moments, but nothing traumatic. It was good, good! From time to time we have just really wanted to only sexually focus on each other, but really never all together lost interest in swinging, but really did not try and hook up very often. We are kind of there now. Our family is growing, with kids getting married, having kids, and consequently, so are family events on the calendar. Family first, because as much as we enjoy swinging, we actually prefer family time. We don't make it out to the big events, or very many meet and greets. We play with some old friends from time to time and yes we are still interested in meeting some new lovers, and we still pursue that a bit, but frankly, we are pretty hard to nail down time wise. Are we happy we decided to step into the "lifestyle"? Yes we are. Perhaps it was relatively easy for us to adjust, because we have always had faith and confidence in each other, and we discovered that we both seemed to have married someone with whom we are very compatible in all sorts of ways including sexually. We still remain each others favorite lovers. If you are both on the same page about trying this adventure, then try it! Nothing ventured nothing gained. If you discover it does not fit in with your relationship, then give it up. If it does not make you happy don't force it.

Utah - - OK, I just have to throw out something I have been noticing alot. A bunch of people seem to rag on Utah and say that everyone here is judgemental and that this place is hard to live in. I have just read in alot of posts that they dont know how or where to meet like minded people. First , I think this site is a perfect start, or a bar, or whatever it is yall like to do, start there. Maybe its because I live in Ogden, but i havent really met, or have anyone in my life who really judges me for what i think or do....Maybe its because I have a good radar for cool peoples lol. And just make friends who i know are non-judgemental..Anyways I am not from here (been here 10 years though) but I fairly well like this place! And there are alot of Swingers here, which i find to be the best attribute of any place!!! Sorry for the rant, just my rambling for the month

Mansion Massage Mixer reviews/info? - - Their ad. states "Single males must bring a date or be accompanied by a hosting couple". We've only been to one so we're going back tonite & see if our 1st impression was correct. #1 The Mansion is a super cool place, well worth visiting. #2 - seemed to be couples in the 30's - 40's. Not many of us "more mature" swingers there. #3 Didn't see much playing, a little in the hot tub, but the massages looked awesome! #4 We left about 12:00 so the party may have warmed up after we left.

Polyamory, Swinging, and the Single Man - - We know a few people that associate with the poly community, as in consider themselves poly and we have been to a few poly pot lucks ourselves. The poly people we know are all very nice people. None of the people we actually know that that consider themselves poly have ever actually been in a long term full on poly relationship as in everyone involved ending up equally as committed to each other and the relationship. We have known people where a married couple, with a bisexual wife had a live in relationship with a bisexual woman but in the end it did not last very long and the couple and the woman went their separate ways and we have know a few couples that have been in exclusive relationships with another couple where part of the equation wanted to basically make it as permanent as their primary relationship and part of the equation did not. Relationships with commitments, especially those that are the most rewarding are life altering and if you are not really, all in, heart and soul the advanced level of commitment and the corresponding obligations will eventually become a burden you may be unwilling to bear. If what is looking for as an individual is deep passionate friendships without expectations and obligations, that you feel reduce your freedom, then a poly relationship and marriage may not be in their best interest. There is nothing wrong with that. If a deeply pair bonded couple wants the freedom to enjoy deep and passionate friendships with others, including sex, without the same level of obligation and expectation they offer one to another then are they poly or are they swingers? Probably more swingers than truly poly-amorous or maybe they are poly light or swinger intense. The secret may be to figure out who you are and then be true to yourself. A lack of understanding of self can lead to disappointments in relationships. Intentionally misrepresenting or misleading someone for sex rarely and probably never ends up all good. We all on occasion may unintentionally end up misleading someone when we try and be what we think others wants us to be and in the end we just do not have it in us. We can say for a certainty that we are not poly in the truest sense of the word or really even poly light. Our relationship as a couple is paramount and we willfully and joyfully commit to all the obligations and commitments and even the disagreements that accompany living our lives together and with our progeny. We both inherited genes that seem to have targeted both of us to seek out a life long partner, have and raise a family and to express ourselves sexually mostly together as a couple. We have been in a couple of longer than usual not really exclusive relationships where we were seeing the same people pretty much weekly. We discovered that we are okay with having good friends with sexual benefits but the ability or the desire to be in a poly relationship is just not within either one of us. Self discovery and relationships often requires a bit of experimentation and a lot of self examination. Affiliating and seeking to self identify with a group to achieve acceptance friendship and sex is pretty common and pretty normal. Many of the people we know that self identify as poly are not unwilling to enjoy a little sex for sex sake between friends so long as they understand that is all that is happening. Good luck and have fun!

No response emails :-( - - So, NOTJUSTMEE, the first thing I would ask is: what are your objectives? Why this swingers site? Are you just trying to get laid? If so, there are better places for you. You're probably getting to the point that you may realize that singles, especially single males, don't seem to do well here. AFF may be a better answer, but I have to tell you, way back when I was a single male not looking for commitment, about 7 years ago before I met Mrs. Sexperimentors, I got luck on Match WAY, WAY more than any other site. If you're trying to connect with an older woman who can give you all the experience only an older woman can - I love this - go to richsugarmomma or sugarmommaclub or another of the sugar momma sites. They actually work if you're a young stud that's not overly discerning. If you're interested in being with a couple, you're probably in as good a place as any. You're going to have to travel, you're going to have to be very specific in your communication with what you want, what your expectations are, you're going to have to be very, very patient.

I'm a hater. Will you be a hater too? - Warning, the rats ass just ranted all over the floor! - Awwww 22PLAY....BIG HUG!!! :-) People don't realize that in Utah you can have a pretty big swingers party with just two couples....since we all have seven wives! ;-) Evild

Cupled MEN - Info - It's not just a Utah thing. But this site has it the most since couple v single males for a lot of us old time swingers we've learned to adapt to the changes screen all request piture or not and weed out the not real head gamers to where others still think its couples only hobby.