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This lifestyle - What are we really? - MORDON: Huh??
Wow...no easy task to consolidate concepts as broad and inclusive as swinging and/or polyamory into neat little boxes. I'm still trying to follow how you grouped the two into polar opposites.
I'm not sure that the way you're defining either of those would be true for the majority of those in the swinging communities, and especially not Sirensextress or myself.
If I have the ability to to love more than one person...then yes, I suppose I am polyamorous, but NOT in the same way that a couple who is truly polyamorous might view it (I do love not just one but all my children/siblings and whatnot).
You've painted a rather bleak and harsh picture of us non-polyamorists, by boldly stating that swingers are, "friends with benefits....True swinging is having sex just for the sake of having sex. No talking ...no getting to know each other...not caring one iota about the other person. Basically have sex and if the other person dies on the way home ...who give gives a shit!"
That statement is well, to put it bluntly, naive and uninformed.
We've never engaged in sex without talking, or getting to know one another. How else would we know if there's any chemistry?
We care greatly for most of the people we've encountered through swinging, and would most CERTAINLY care if they died on the way home!
In short...we "give a shit"!
I think in it's broadest sense, the term "swinging" is large enough to cater to the appetites of a wide spectrum of people, from those that are inclined to polyamory, to those that prefer to fuck 'em and leave 'em, to those that are the swinging wannabe's, to those that are exclusive.
We are by no means polyamorous, but yes, we've run into couples that are in the truest sense of the word, poly. In fact, we've met couples that have wanted us to participate in the poly lifestyle. However, they are looking for something quite different that what we are looking for.
Neither my wife nor myself are looking to be "married" to another couple, or to become a "secondary" husband/wife to them. Yet, being the "non-polyamorists" that we are, and according to your definition, we should be unable able to maintain very close friendships with any other swingers.
Actually...our experiences have been quite the opposite.
Most of our closest friends have come out of The Lifestyle.
Do we love them? Yep.
Have/are we sexually intimate with them? Yep.
Are we romanticaly involved, exclusive and IN love with them? No.
Do we love them like family? Yep.
Are we polyamorous? No.
Does this just boil down semantics? Yes..probably. However I felt compelled to speak on behalf of those of us that actually do care about the people that we meet through the lifestyle. Cuz we DO give a shit and we're NOT the cold-hearted people we've been made out to be!
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Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - The Mrs. would like to try DP with another couple where the other female also wants to try DP. She thinks it would be a more comfortable and hotter environment with another couple versus a SM. Maybe a late afternoon and evening sex marathon!
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - You know what's funny about DVP is if you are with the right couple, DVP is actually not that big of a deal as far as the comments about "not wanting to touch another guy's dick. When you are in this situation, you aren't thinking about the other guys dick. You are more focused on what she is experiencing. It's very hot to see a woman in total sexual bliss while she is stuffed full with two cocks. Although, you have to be somewhat selective and don't try it with two monster cocks if she isn't used to it. That can be more uncomfortable for her than fun. DVP is very hot if you take your time, get her ready for it, lots of foreplay etc.. And for the guys with this macho, homophobic hangup, c'mon already, you know more than anyone if you are gay or not. If you're not, you should be comfortable. I think the guys that have homosexual tendencies are the most hung up about getting labeled homosexual just because they touched another guys dick. If my wife is having fun and getting off on the situation, I don't care what I'm touching. I'm all about pleasing her..
Moab lifestyle - looking for what lies under the covers in Moab - We get down to Moab quite a bit and can tell you with some assurance that there IS no lifestyle (at least SWINGER lifestyle) endemic to that area. There ARE plenty of swingers who go down there to recreate but they have to bring their own fun with them or arrange to meet it (them) there. LOL
Sorry, I know that's probably not the answer you wanted but it's accurate. This is Utah. We're lucky to have a VERY small number of regular clubs (bars) that are lifestyle-friendly up here in the more populated areas. There are no on-premises swing clubs in Utah. Our advice would be to advertise your trip here on Swingular and elsewhere and see if you can connect with other naughty people who happen to be traveling there around the same time, Good luck! :-)
Required info for swingers - - Yes a classic from CDI. He is fucking hilarious! Have you seen the Barbie/GI Joe vids he did? He also used to make theme vids for different LL parties. The one about N'awlins was too fucking funny! LOL
New Vibrator - - We wanted to share this link with all our fellow swingers out there, even those of you who just want to play online can even get in on the fun. This new toy will allow you to play with someone in the next room to around the world. The wife here just loves the idea of someone else being able to play with here even if they can't be with her in person. We would love to see this site pick up on it and maybe offer it to their members ....... well with that all said hope to see what happens with it.
Here is the link http://www.sinulate.com/
Have fun and be Safe
W & A
Black Ring - Who has theirs and how have they caught on? - We don't go around looking at what kind of rings people are wearing on their right hand unless we are somewhere that swingers are at least rumored to frequent and at a time we suspect they might be there. Black rings might be just another way to help swingers come a little closer to confirming a suspicion they have about someone they already know. Even if the efficacy of wearing a black ring is questionable, if in the end your having fun then enjoy it.
Original humans as swingers? - Provocative theories based on Bonobo sexual behavior - I think I'm aroused.
Facebook for Swing Friends? - - I have close swing friends on mine. But then gain I'm actually friends with my close swing friends, of that makes any sense. Most everyone we know knows about is being swingers anyway. Although I don't post anything on there like "hey I had sex with so-and-so today" on it.
Curious Devil - Political Science Project - Jared, I'm only arguing because his post was directed at me. I am obliging them. LOL! It passes the time. LOL! The spokesman for Florida Swingers is saying swingular doesn't put out in Florida, even though the forum participation from the area doesn't agree. Just calling bullshit. LOL!
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