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KSL swing story - - The story was terribley produced. Little to no research. As I said in the thread leading up to KSL being at the Club 90 party, they decided what story they were going to write before they even put pen to paper, and they were not going to let the truth get in the way of their story. I particularily liked the way it played women to be victims in the Lifestyle, especially when everyone knows it is women that really run the show and have the biggest say-so in who a couple plays with. Also, in surveys of swingers when asked "Who's idea was it to start swinging?" 34% of the time it was the wife that first brought it up. Sure, men still accounted for 54% of the survey (the rest couldn't remember who's idea it was originally), but it's not the men wanting sex with other women and drawing their poor defenseless wife into the lurid underground world of wife swapping to do it. Hell, anyone who's been around it for a while knows it's more "husband swapping" anyway. :p I've been following the comments on KSL's website, and these people have no life. They wait to watch the news every night and then add their two cents to every subject. None of them have any idea what they are talking about. As Ozzie Guillen says about arm chair coaches and sportscasters "the farther you sit from the plate the smarter you think you are." LMAO But all the comments are along the same lines, the evil cheating husband luring his innocent, unsuspecting wife into the seedy underworld. Then you get the fake profile they put up and within "six days, 70 married men, most from Utah, ask to start a fling." LMAO Damn, how many couples get emails every day from "free member" married men looking to cheat? We get at least one a day. The same old story over and over: Married Mormon family man who says "I love my wife but she doesn't like sex". These people need to look within themselves. We're not the problem, they are. Plus, most of us won't play with cheaters and after a time we've become very adept at sniffing them out. My wife gets at least one married Mormon man a day sending her an IM on her personal Yahoo! Messenger ID, and they find her in the Yahoo! directory (not Yahoo! Personals, the directory). They just go through looking for women online to contact. They don't know she is a swinger. Her Yahoo! profile is innocent as can be. If they are going to cheat they will find a way, with or without swingers. Wow... I'd love to say this on KSL's site, but like fun4usxx said, it will just add fuel to the fire and you can't win. You can't fix stupid. Mr. Caress4u

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - It sounds like a great idea, we too are also looking for people that we can trust and let it all go. Count us in.!

This lifestyle - What are we really? - great discussion, when we got into the "Lifestyle" it was by accident for the most part. We wanted to go to a fun party ant we found one, jo so happed that it was a swinger party. So we went to another party, started feeling a bit more comfortable with the designation and decided to post a profile. it was then that we had to make a decisoin as to what we were and that was no easy task. we listed voyour first then later changed ot to soft swap after the misses had a few of the gals play with ehr and we both were aroused by it. bi-curious came next. after we meed several couples that we really liked and had spent considedrable time with. Yet we felt our profile we descriptive of our intentions. But we now realize that is not true. We were seeking friends. were not in it to have random sex. and heve developed som what we consider close friends and have never had sex with them, we have also lost some close friends we feel as a result of the male member finally realizing he would nver be allowed to fuck mrs. simple. and for that were sad. so where are we. we love, "with a big L" hanging around and playing and partying with lifestyle folks. it has freed us from some of our inner needs. and it is great. I have no desire to fuck another woman, though patting her bottom and playing with the bobbies is great as we say in our profile. and the misses loves the kisses from the gals and boobie play. swingers, perhaps that does not describe us, not sure what does, but we enjoy hanging with those that have their head on straight, love to get naked with them , watch and be watched. touching kissing wow, who would ever thought. perhaps were just the swingers that always stand in the corner at the dance and only come on the floor during the slow dances and watch during the high paced heavy action one. but watever, we want to thank all of you for being you, and letting us be a part of your lives. see many of you tonight at the bowling party....perhaps the slow dances do have a wild side on occasion we have to wait until tonight to see.

Do you agree, that some times it\'s ok to swing with a solo marr - - Our two Cents... If your just hooking up for sex and not friendship as many in the lifestyle are does it matter what the other partners have going on in there lives? Where they work, are they married etc? Everyone swings for there own reason and if all your looking for is pleasure of a third or whatever then so long as they are clean, respectful and discreat it really shouldn\'t concern you (Same goes for females). When you meet at a swingers club do you check everyones credentials, do a background check and call references? HOWEVER... if your looking for friends, more than just a one night stand (Not the No-Strings arrangment) then surely you would talk about why everyone is involved in the lifestyle and honesty etc become doubly important. Just our outlook.. we are pretty tough on our screening for swing partners and friends been burnt too many times. Amanda & Peter

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - Interested as well

What is up with Utah?! - Swingers in Utah and nowhere else? - I noticed ALOT of people on here live in Utah. Why is that? Don't get me wrong, I'm not hatin on Utah.........actually I'm kinda jealous! We never have even done this...........yet. But it doesn't seem to be much in NH anyway. Should we vacation in Utah? LOL.:$:

Blind Requests and Fake Profiles - What's your experience with blind requests and fake profiles? - We met some blind swingers once. They found us very attractive!

Which Motorcycle Survey? - In the market and want your opinion... - [quote=242]Oh, I have strong thoughts on this subject folks. And I am really doing my homework and shopping very thoroughly. I'm taking my time because I won't be buying until Feb/Mar at the earliest. And I've been watching the Can-Am develop over the past 3 years now. One of our nearby dealers carries them alongside Big Dog Choppers and Suzuki. Interesting line-up. It's not that what others think will make my decision or unduely influence it, but I am interested in reading others' opinions and thoughts to compare to my own. And I'm checking with a few different demographic groups. Let's face it: swingers tend to march to the beat of their own drum more than most folks! LOL I brought up the "cool factor" and image stuff in the context of what our own perceptions are of bike culture. I mentioned that we are cruiser types, not crotch-rocket people. I wear western style riding boots and a black leather jacket. But my jacket has armor inserts, all the modern upgrades, and even reflective piping on a traditional cruiser jacket frame. I wear a Bell military-style open face helmet and goggles. My wife rides a blacked out (Raven) 2011 Star Stryker. So we sort of blend the old w/the new a bit. I guess I'm hesitant about the style change. Thanks for the input and please keep it coming. You're helping me cogitate. LOL[/quote] Cogitate? I read somewhere that they've come up with a cure for that in the Netherlands.

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - It's great, but sometimes she's in the mood for it, others not.

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - Yes please, I'd Like to be considered