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What would you do? - what does a person do when their spouse no longer wishes to paticipate - Well. How amazing that the "couple in question" just happens to be in my home town. And my wife and I are at a serious impasse about the same subject, but in the "traditional direction" i.e. I still want it. She still doesn't. I'm... very surprised that a bunch of Swingers are so unanimous that "No trumps yes": that swinging is just something you do - but are ashamed of enough that any "no" in the group instantly defines the partner's life as well. Why isn't "yes" just as valid? In our case, we've been married for over 25 years. We've had a very-good run. Our children are grown and gone. We're financially comfortable. And we're still physically capable - as we watch our parents be physically unable to walk, hear, see, pee, or do much of anything to enjoy *anything* - the point there being that I hear the clock ticking and to me, this is THE time of life to reap one's reward for the life one has lead - before it's too late to do anything but try to keep breathing. And for me, being honest, the ONE thing that is my reward - is erotic fun. Let me be clear that what I crave is *erotic fun* - not just madly try to find someone new to fuck and never see again - but partners who want to wallow in the erotic experience of "Truth or Dare" and Lifestyle conventions and teasing and games. That's IT for me. That's why "doing it" is called "doing IT". And I've been a great husband/father/responsible citizen for over 50 years. And I feel that there isn't anything else in my life that really gives me a "reason for living". And my wife, bless her, just has never had any passion. She enjoys it when I have sex with her. When I give her a nice massage followed by 3 or 4 orgasms. But she's happy with twice a month or less. And she had no need at all for my "erotic experiences". So here we are. And over the last 10 years we've tried pretty-much every possibility: traditional fidelity, me cheating, us swinging, me swinging alone with her permission... and it always ultimately winds up that the only way she is not *miserable* is if I'm following "traditional fidelity". And the only way I'm not miserable - is if I have the freedom to pursue erotic associations. Now. If my passion were bowling, there wouldn't be a problem. If her passion were gardening or shoe shopping, there wouldn't be a problem. Everybody would just tell us to do our thing without the other - and enjoy what we *do* enjoy together. But somehow sex is THE one that we have to do *together* or not at all. So we're very very seriously trying to figure out if we'd both be happier by tearing up a marriage and going our separate ways. We can all *say* that whoever does NOT want to swing - rules the day, but imagine whatever your very-favorite thing is to do. Then imagine your spouse telling you: "I don't like to do that, so WE won't ever do that and You won't do it without me - and you won't do it alone, either - ever again". Now what?

swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - WAAAA babies is that all u whiners are bunch of panty waste if i have ever seen, all talk u all talk freedom of speech now that some is standing up to u panty waste u all rebel and do not like it ummm very funnylol, lol, lol

What if??? - Some body's worst night mare. - My worst nightmare involves spiders and rollercoasters. Not really much to do with swingers and/or my parents. :p

closed doors? - - also, we started going to swingers clubs in our area, it was a lot less pressure for us because we didn't have to go on a "date" with another couple Just a suggestion

seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? - Wow...I don't think Tequila Rose needs to jump on this one, as your "opinion" is very clear, and gosh...just right out there, ain't it? However, we simply want to state that in our "opinion", your "opinion" is found to be completely lacking in tact, good intent, social grace, and was completely unkind. If you felt such a necessity to answer with such...how can I put this..."honesty", then could you not have done it with at least more flair and less bluntness? I am not going to get on my "we're all going to be there someday" soapbox, because that is stating the overtly obvious. However, I certainly hope that by the time we get there, we don't run into many people either in or out of swinging, that would have such an utter lack of integrity and social etiquette to tell us that we are no longer considered viable and attractive members of society to at least someone. We wish the best of luck to the senior gentleman, and may he find exactly what he's looking for!

Female domme seeking sub or slave - your pain is my pleasure - "...if you want sex, then look elsewhere." Don't mind if I do...since this is, like, a swingers' site and that's kinda the raison d'être. Ever thought about going to FetLife or another site that's a little more specific for your "profession"? Just a thought. You could also put up fliers around your neighborhood or hand them out on street corners while you're out shopping for whips and stuff. Merry Christmas! [em]Emo_12[/em]

Mormons - -

E'one,

It appears that there are enough swingers that are also believers in a god. Perhaps you should form a more tolerant version to the faith and recruit members. That's pretty much how all the other branches got their start. The believed differently from the "mainstream". Those that believe god or the gods could give a fuck about your sex life should make your own version. Hell you can even write a supplemental to the Original christian bible. If there is such a thing. Anyway, I say do what makes you feel right. If you fuck and it doesn't feel wrong, then fuck. The only people who say it's a "sin" are humans. AG, That just proves that many religions families usually ignore one of the fundemental principles of "God's Intent" and rob individuals the right of free will until they are away from the grips of their families. People feel so dependant on the church because the church is all they know.
-Don-

Wannabes and net fakes - Will the real lifestyle members please stand up - Plenty of "real" swingers get labeled as fakes every day. Plenty of fake swingers, get mistaken for "real" ones just as often. That phrase should not be subjective to whether or not someone stood you up, faked a profile, or used old pics, just to name a few negative things. Those people are simply assholes. Even if they fancy themselves swingers. It has happened to us on many occassions that someone has claimed to have seen one of her pics either in a mag, or on a paid porn site, which automatically makes us "fakes". We have been labled as "fakes" based on the fact that we choose not to (primarily) meet with couples, thus we must be fake. We have been accused of being "fakes" because we are selective about with whom we meet, and even more selective about with whom we play. NO fakes here. Just smart people who know what we are looking for. People who have an axe to grind are typically the first to call out "fakes" on sites like these. I may not have the benefit of 25 years of swinging to support that supposition, but it is what is obvious to me. I am sure that there are a great many "fakes" out there who are only interested in wasting other peoples time with their bullshit, and believe me when I say that we have met one or two over the years...but I wouldnt automatically brand someone a "fake" based on the fact that they didnt show up for a meeting. (That is not to say that we would excuse that behavior, because if someone stands us up they had better be dead or we are done with them for good.) But who knows..maybe they just got cold feet? Maybe they really DID get a flat tire on the way to see you....shit happens. Luvbugs! (mR.) :p

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - 1965 Mustang.

Curious Devil - Political Science Project - ***Proves what point???? It's free so that makes it hot in Florida or that you are horribly cheap? Craiglist is free too, why not go there then lmao. SDC, SLS and Playful Swingers all started in Florida too, that certainly doesn't make this site special. We aren't comparing apples to oranges, you said that this site was hot in Utah and Florida and that simply isn't true. You can attempt to skew the point and say "no marketing" blah blah blah but that really does mean anything...you said it is hot in Florida and thats false.*** Furthermore, just because you live in Florida, doesn't mean you have statistical data that shows the success of each website in the entire state. 323 members in your area that are a part of swingular is pretty good being that it's FREE after a month and there is no marketing in that area. **Ahhh, don't skew the point yet again...323 compared to 2323....that indicates that the site just isn't that popular here regardless of free fees (you are really really impressed by that huh?) For god sakes its free after a month because it is an attempt by this site to compete with the more popular ones. So lets take this a step further and search validated people in Florida, the entire state on Swingular and within only 100 miles of our home on SDC and compare: 550 in the entire State of Florida on Swingular 2581 on SDC within 100 miles of our home HMMMMMMMMMM......................perhaps I'm right? Don't worry, we wont expect you to actually admit, not your style. Blog princesses never do** TEQUILLAROSE SAYS: How much do you pay monthly for your SDC membership? How much do you pay monthly for you Lifestyle Lounge membership? How much does it cost for AFF account monthly??? I paid $25 dollars for a lifetime membership. **Again, so what? This is off the subject again...but I will agree that AFF does suck, I never mentioned that one, you just threw it in there. We want to actually meet people seeing how we are swingers and all...Swingular doesn't have the community base here like SDC and SLS...thus going back to the point that its not HOT in FL. Side note: Swinging in reallife is actually WAY better than cyber-swinging...I promise** TEQUILAROSE SAYS: The scene is huge everywhere. Florida isn't special. Try moving to California or Oregon where sexual liberation has been around for decades. You're not impressing me by boasting about websites that you pay a monthly fee for just to get invited to a club everyone can join regardless. You can go to lifestyle clubs regardless of your affliation with a website. So if that's a given, what is draw of SDC??? I disagree with you. The truth is, swingular isn't hopping where you live in florida, but in other parts of the state it's doing great. **Haha it must be a "fluke" that Swingular, SLS, SDC and Playful Swingers all started up here in Florida huh...wow. Again, you are wrong, you are REQUIRED to have approval to attend a Skin or Bliss Party, they aren't open to the general public ;) I never said that an affiliation with a website is the draw, I said that you can view upcoming events and attendance lists...which is particularly desirable for people visiting the state and newbies. Also, its a packed house on an SDC night at any of the Meet & Greets..it does sell out but if your RSVP'd on SDC you are guaranteed admittance. LMAO @ isn't hopping where I live...I live in South Florida..45 minutes from Miami this IS where almost everything is happening, I don't remember ever watch CSI Clinton :D Ever heard of Collins Avenue? (don't go googling it to sound smart lil smartyparnts) ** TEQUILLAROSE: I don't hear shit about SDC, LSL or AFF here other than they suck because you don't get what you pay for. I can post links all day regarding parties that people are planning in florida righ hear in the forum. From meet and greets to on-premise parties. Let's not forget that the website membership with SDC, doesn't get you into the club at no extra expense. So what does SDC provide??? Information about the party? Those on-premise clubs are open to anyone willing to pay for a membership to the club it's self. You're not convincing. ;) ;) ::Uh...again wrong, members receive discounts and often the membership fees are waived for new couples...why would anyone, particularly new to the lifestyle, go to some random "alleged" couples party across the state from this site when you can attend a party on another site with 200+ local people. I pay 20/mo. for SDC but save up to $75 buck at the door so I guess it all works itself out (I bet thats impressive since you are all about savings and all) ;):: AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS SITE ISN'T ALL THAT AND A BAG OF CHIPS TO YOU AND THOSE IN YOUR AREA...ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT IT ISN'T HERE IN FLORIDA LIKE YOU ARE CONVINCED.