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Who here is 45 and older and hot?? - - I hafta say...
The older I get, the older a MILF or GILF gets...
I just don't care how old someone is, hot is a state of mind, and I like the state of mind of most swingers...
But then again, WTF do I know?
BTW...LGSBCS IS the hottest MILF on the site...
Sorry if that offends anyone else...
Salt Lake City tonight - Any fun clubs in the area? - Where do swingers go in Salt Lake City? We are passing through tonight, any ideas would be appreciated! Someplace fun and classy!
Safe Sex - How do you (or don't you) protect yourselves? - We now have the rule that we always use condoms. And we are still shopping around for the best ones that work for hubby. He would prefer not having to use them but not enough that he is going to stop. (Side Note: red condoms can have a BAD visual connotation for some guys)
I admit that when we started out we didn\'t use them the first couple of times we played. We then discovered that the first couple we played with doesn\'t use them at all. They had some of the same arguments I\'ve seen posted here. The fact that STD\'s can be transmitted via oral sex, condoms don\'t feel right, etc. I can see those points. But then we found out that they don\'t get tested at all and he picks up random chicks while traveling (with wife\'s knowledge and permision) I think that is the point that makes me the most uncomfortable. Most of the swingers we have met so far are very aware of STD\'s and take some precautions such as getting tested, condoms, etc. But I have seen the statistics on STD\'s in single sexually active people and it\'s like 1 in 4 and most don\'t know they are infected. So he is playing russian roulette in my opinion. We didn\'t know all this before we played with them.
So I guess the moral of the story is to talk with potential partners and ask questions!! For us newbies, it may be awkward and feel like you are being crass, nosy, or killing the spark, but the other couple should be willing to at least discuss it or maybe they aren\'t right for you!!
Carrie V.
Joking around with the wife - - Yeah, we know about them being upside down. She said she did it like that to not make it as noticeable to the vanillas that do know about it and for the swingers that do to wonder.
The Forum - For What It's Worth - [quote=FREERIDESTL]
LTFOL...WTF are you talking about? LOL
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guess you ain't been here long then:
http://www.swingular.com/swingers/i/5254/
so whatever did happen to GSC and their tantrum?
N by N Campout - Thanks for a Great time! - This was our first time coming to the campout. We had an amazing time and cant wait till next year. Thanks to our hosts and all the people who showed up and made it a great experience. "this one time, at swingers camp" haha!
How much risk is too much? - - [quote=ILLUSTRATOR]You're right. I'm just telling it the way I see it from what I know. I just wanted to voice the other side of this because I know women who feel this way and, although I understand how you feel, I see their side of it, too.
And the men on here who think that women truly want to be raped need to understand that they may think it's what they want, but what they really want is the unrealistic fantasy that's played out so often in the Romance Novels that are flying off the shelves. There's a reason for their high sales. But it's merely a Fantasy. These men might come across videos like that of Laci Green's and think that means all women want to be raped. They should know that, in reality, women don't want it played out. That's what the OP should know and consider. [/quote]
And a certain percentage of men may have just read that and only saw (or acknowledged), "...all women want to be raped." When we already have a very pervasive bias in our culture towards patriarchy and women being subservient to men, especially sexually, then discussions like this, IMHO, cause more harm than good. It doesn't take much looking on the internet to find sites and discussion boards where violence against women is not only overtly depicted through text and image but also actively discussed and even encouraged. Fantasize all you want but openly discussing how to fulfill rape fantasies in a swingers forum can only cause harm I think.
FF acceptable and MM not acceptable? - Why is female on female sex acceptable and male on male is not? - There's more issues with this question then I care to get into on chat. If you wanna talk with no fluff like is added on these chats many times then feel free to messaged me. But 2 things most everyone likes to watch girls kiss. A significantly smaller portions like to watch guys kiss like I'm guessing 15% . There in is your first. Second is many guys say there bi or curious just to get with the woman. This to me is really a non question the answers are obvious. Good luck in your search. When it comes to guys I'm pretty picky. Again supply demand. I could post and add online hosting for bi guy and have 10, 20 sumtn year old hot guys message me within couple hours,. Same add for women good luck. Scientific data I've read shows women think sex 10 times daily, men 19. Anyways I think you probably know the answer and are frustrated. Just figure out what is or isn't working and keep it up.
Lastly this is definitely not an add for me looking for guys. I have no problem in that area if your curious feel free to message to talk but not looking for boyfriend currently. And I wouldn't look on swingers site for one.
Sexy couple's HMU anytime I can't wait to dance more this weekend love it
Gangbangs/ Wife sharing - -
I have been to gangbangs before, as a solo male, that were posted on the swingers sites and pretty much open to anyone. The percentage of guys who are no-shows is pretty sad. When we schedule a gangbang, we only invite guys that we already know and have partied with before. Only once have we had a no-show, and we crossed him off our list forever. We meet in a bar first, and all go over to the room together once everybody
Booty calls with thislilmiss - Too many no shows to be real - Not sure what is happening here with this lady but as for human sexual behavior.....
It has been been accepted that animals including humans typically do not behave for the good of the species as a number one priority but rather to leave as many copies of their genes into the next generation as possible. This affects the optimization of social evolution. Sex is more important to humans than the social good but being socially good and getting sex can go together. Reciprocal cooperation and sex can be symbiotic. So sex is more important to us than being polite and proper, except that we humans have a drive for the sexual behavior, while at the same time, sometimes choosing to keep our genes to ourselves. So even though the evolution of social optimization in our species has developed into some very advantageous cooperative behaviors deep down inside sex is really important and subconsciously is a greater drive than the overall good of the community. So people are more likely to behave in what might be considered an anti social manner or cheating for the reward of sex. Reciprocal cooperation for sex within a swing community is pretty common. Yeah swing team Utah!! Someone socially communicating with swingers with a dis-interested mate or unaware mate might be really good at online socialization up until the point that they would have to explain to their mate where they were going that night or where they have been. They almost cannot help themselves. So all of a sudden they just don't show up.
So we get fairly often husbands but sometimes also wives that want to have the whole sexual enchilada but really cannot because they have a mate more into raising existing offspring than looking to mate with others. They are so driven that if they cannot fuck with you in the flesh then they will fuck with you online. They want a physical sexual connection but that is risky and not easily accomplished so they have an online sexual connection if possible.
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