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Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! - - Merry Christmas to all on the State-side! (we hail from Ogden, normally) We've met a lot of awesome swingers in Utah and hope to meet even more in the future when we return. XOXO!
Hedonism 2 Young Swinger's Week - March 19-27 - Speaking strictly in the context of swingers cruise versus swingers resort... this comparison may help...
-----[ Swingers Cruise Pros:]--------
- Lower Price (compared to resorts, it's USUALLY a little cheaper overall.. )
- TONS of activities to do. Non-Stop entertainment on the ship and on the excursions. (Not a lot going on at the resorts.. one or two games per day is all).
- Many of the excursions are takeovers as well, so you can be naked if you want. (Many of the resorts of topless-only).
- You can be completely naked on most parts of the ship, if you want.
- Dedicated play-rooms. Lots of them. (Many resorts only have one smaller area dedicated for play... which makes sense... generally only 200 to 250 people at a resort at any given time).
- MASSIVE crowd. 3,500+ people on a single ship. You'll never possibly get to know even 5% of the people on the ship. (In other words, you have a huge pool of people to choose from to find people you like!!). Unless you are into older people, this is a HUGE advantage, because on any expensive swingers vacation, less than 20% of the crowd is going to be under 50. (People under 50 generally can't afford vacations like this)....... 20% of 3,500 is MUCH better than 20% of 250 in terms of finding couples your own age. For us, this is the single most important factor.
- Better / more types of food to choose from.
- Higher-end facilities and nicer overall atmosphere. (Cruise-ships are equivalent to a 4-star or even 5-star hotel… swingers resorts are 3-star at best.. most are pretty worn down).
-----[ Resort Pros:]--------
- Smaller, more intimate setting. You'll get to know everyone at the resort at the time you are there.
- Much more laid back. If you like to do is lounge by the pool all day, every day, it's for you.
- You can leave the resort any time you want and venture into town.
- Typically you have better access to phones, internet, TV, etc.
- Rooms are bigger
If you look at the activity list on a typical resort, you'll find there's only one thing going on at any given time. Most people just lounge by the pool all day, every day -- and then they go to club-style events at night. The cruise is totally different... At any given time, you can choose from 3 or 4 different activities (or just lounge by the pool)... and you can still do the club-style stuff at night IF YOU WANT.. (but there's usually other alternatives to pick from).
Honestly, the ONLY major downside to the cruise compared to the resorts is that they don't do the swingers takeover cruises very often. (Once or twice a year is all you've got to pick from). So if you're picky about WHEN you go... the resort is probably your only bet. If you're flexible, don't give it a second thought... the swingers cruise is where it's at. =)
I agree, however, that if you're going to do the resorts, and age is a factor (it is definitely a factor for us), young swingers week is where it's at!
Hope that helps!
Same Sex Marriage - If you support - I support gay marriage.
I support my sister's right to love whom she chooses, to give her heart and soul to the person she chooses. My sister just happens to love another woman.
Why is her love any less than yours or mine?
How does her being able to marry the person she loves hurt your marriage or take away from your relationship?
Gays would take the same vows would they not? They'd make the same commitments? They'd love, cry, fight, makeup just the same?
I'm tired of the sanctimonious, claims of how gay marriage will weaken straight marriage. Is your marriage that damn insecure that someone else being allowed to marry will cause issues for you?
I'm tired of the what next argument. Folks will be marrying goats. BS!
How about this one, swingers shouldn't be allowed to marry because of how they trash their vows to remain faithful? Not too cool? Stay out of the love lives of others and you'll get the same in return.
You want your version of love and commitment respected, how about giving some of that respect in return?
Fantasy Fest 2009 in Key West - Looking for others planning to go - we can post other thread later like where will you be at FF and when. The Garden of eden above the bull and whistle is clothing optional bar day & night. It is another good meet up spot for swingers.
Where did it go? - - OMG....some of you amuse me.
You've totally missed the point of this thread.
It had nothing (as in nada, zero, zilch) to do with altruism and humanitarian efforts to relieve and help those in need from either economic misfortune or environmental disaster.
Where along the lines was that miscommunicated?
So please, for the love of GOD and everything holy...let's spare everyone the sappy and teary-eyed proverbial "Hero Story" of how swingers flock together to help the less fortunate.
Yes, yes...I know that there have been some marvelous demonstrations of compassion, and that so-called "brotherly christian love" towards fellow-swingers, that we have all seen posted on the threads numerous times, and that's all good and I'm sure Jesus is happy about that....but trust me, that was in no way the intention of this thread.
I should know, I originated it. :)
This was a wholly tongue-in-cheek thread, meant to draw an amusing glance at a previously deleted thread that involved an "offer" of exchanging manual labor for sex.
An offer of prostitution.
Not a friend asking a friend for help to re-roof their house.
If you want to revel in the friendship and altruism of your fellow swingers....please, start your own damned thread, and quit hijacking this one!
:)
J
motorcycle rides - - We have a sport touring bike (tracer 900) and love to go on long rides, we'd love to do a swingers motorcycle trip.
The lifestyle: A single mans perspective - - Well said, brother...This lifestyle is what you make of it, and some make more than others.
While we are all grownups on this site (obviously, you have to be 18 or over to sign on), you'd think there would be less of a high-school mentatlity than in, say....high school? yet, we get some of the DORKIEST , misspelled emails I've ever seen.
Couple that with the responses we've gotten to some posts (like the one critisizing us for getting our vip status), and we wonder how some have remembered to breathe long enough to pass high school.
So, here are some very basic tips on enjoying this lifestyle:
(not that I'm an expert, but obviously some need etiquette lessons)
1) The first email / chat with someone, DON"T ask idiotic questions. And don't get TOO personal. Remember, this is like dating. If a woman at a bar showed some interest, would the next thing out of your mouth be 'What size is your bra?', or 'Do you like it in the ass?'. it's no wonder some of you are in this lifestyle, you'd never get laid otherwise.
2) Keep SOCIAL meetings SOCIAL. No one cares how long you've been a proctologist, or how much money your kids have stole from you. That's YOUR business. Polite conversation is one thing, but there's nothing worse than hearing a 3 hour lecture on YOUR life experiences, followed by 'So, would you guys like to play with us?'
Yeah, as if
3) There ARE other things besides sex to chat about. In person or on the computer. That's right, SWINGERS HAVE BRAINS. and we're very able to carry on converstaion (well, some of us anyway) We were at a party once, and my other half said 'I've heard sex mentioned until I'm not turned on at the thought anymore' ...it happens, just a tip
4) Unless you're planning a very long trip, or own your own private jet, don't add someone to your friend's list here OR on yahoo that lives 3,000 miles away. Let's face it, we'll never meet. Hell, we'll probably never even talk. so what's the point? Air sex? gimme a break.
5) And probably the most important. From the first meeting, to every visit you have (if someone's lucky enough to invite you back, RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE!. Just because we have a wild orgy at the pool of a local motel with wild monkeys and lots of cool whip, it DOES NOT MEAN TO GROPE US EVERYTIME YOU SEE US. We're in couples for a reason, to be in a couple. And just because we're turned on by you, or have sex, doesn't mean you own our bodies afterward. That's what your spouse/gf/bf is for. And most of us aren't here for love. NEWSFLASH...WE'RE HERE FOR SEX!
These are just off the top of my head, after recieving some horrible emails, and experiencing some terrible meetings.
Oh, yeah, and in response to the post, most single guys DO get a hard time in the lifestyle. But good, they should. This is about the couples, single guys are VERY easy to come by.
And those who have treated us with RESPECT have been treated EXCEPTIONALLY WELL. Bravo on a great post, and good luck to you sir!
Him
p.s. anything I missed? list it below!
Ideas on Swingers Car Rally..... - Ideas on Swingers Car Rally..... - Hey guys Hot Rods go with Bikes. Just got the approval to include show cars in the best Bike or Hot Rod contest for Bikers and Babes we will pick a Bike and a runner up and a Car and a Runner up. Hows that.
We will post the Prize for the Hottes Car asap. So are yall in or what? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also we can have cars and Bikes on the Am Ride. Then Hang pool side for a bit. Great way to show off the Car.
Orgy Solutions: Erections & Menstruation - Orgy Solutions: Erections & Menstruation - Fwiw, (and yes this will be a non-facetious response- don't get used to it) it's quite easy and safe to manipulate some birth control methods so that a woman doesn't get her period during a planned play date. Most doctors and pharmacists agree that taking an extra birth control pill or two...or starting the "period" pills a little early so you can finish your period and start the next cycle is quite safe to do. Ms. Evil did just that MANY times without consequence. Additionally, she used the Mirena IUD for a few years and that device effectively reduced her period to one or two very light bleeding days at the most. Can't speak to Depo shots or implants as far as periods, maybe someone can chime in(slight) . Of course if you don't USE birth control then all of this is moot and you're fuggin' cray cray unless you want to take the chance that the condom leaked/broke and you end up having a surprise, guess who the daddy is, orgy baby. For swingers, pregnancy may just end up being the ultimate STD. [em]Emo_8[/em]
Why the male side of Couples are here...? - I will admit I am hoping to spark some heated debate on this.... - Shit I had to read thru that whole thing like almost twice. Okay fine, I skimmed it almost twice. Why am I (or we) still in swinging (it will be thirty years in the not too distant future!)? For us it's about the great friendships. Sex is great. It's fun to explore that not only with each other but with other people occasionally. But it's totally secondary for us. With swingers, more than any other group of people we've found, we can be ourselves, say pretty much what we want, and not have to filter anything. With most vanillas, especially here in Utah, we really have to tread lightly and watch what we say and do. With swingers we can laugh our asses off, totally make fun of the world and even flirt without anyone getting too bent out of shape. I'm sure I don't have to tell you what would happen if you did that with most of your vanilla friends. So yeah, friendships are why we stay. Any sex that happens is just the frosting on the Pop-Tart for us.
As for when we're "70+...who will be taking care of you"...I would hope I can pretty much take care of myself, still control my bowels and bladder and occasionally still climb in the saddle and give Ms. Evil a jolly good geriatric rodgering. If I can't I would hope one of my good swinger friends will put me out of my misery by locking me in a room with an insatiable 22 year old redhead for a few hours and then scattering my ashes over the beach at Hedo II. ;-)
Seriously, 70 AIN'T that old! I know a guy who still runs marathons (admittedly not very fast) in his 90's!
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