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Swing Clubs - - We have never been to a swing club. We usually prefer more intimate settings, but I have wanted to see what it is like. Possibly easier than meeting couples online?
What is everyones take on them, and what is the proper ettiquette regarding meeting and approaching people in the swingers clubs.
Also which vegas/pheonix clubs are the best?
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Now that you're one of them there fancy swingers... - - ...are your sexual expectations/requirements much higher than they were before you decided to participate in this little hobby of ours? Is the simple variety in sexual partners alone enough to satisfy your inner freak or have you found yourself to be much less tolerant of mediocre sexual skills and now only want to play with people who are extremely adept in the sexual arts? Or do you just jerk off a lot? [em]Emo_12[/em]
Obama's Roadtrip - - [quote]Fair enough. Then why rely on them for anything that likely wasn't adequately studied?[/quote]
Likely just does not do it for me...When the numbers are given AND shown how they were gathered, I tend to believe they are fairly accurate.
[quote]Let's take your Pepsi/Coke example. There is likely nothing befuddling about your scenario. Just one possibility: Where are the two Florida products bottled? Maybe it's the water.[/quote]
Both bottled locally, it is chalked up to being a preferance thing. In WI, lived there for a while, it was called pop or soda, unless a VERY specific thing was needed, a Mountain Dew for instance. In the south, it is a Coke no matter what it is. If someone in the south offers a Coke, it could be Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Diet Rite, Sam's Club Soda, etc.
[quote]I'm glad you agree with the logic. My Bachelor's is in Social Welfare (Psych Minor). Human nature is only a bitch of a thing when you get out there a few standard deviations. The bulk of us are as predictable as rats.[/quote]
Believe it or not, I have 2 BA's (econ and int. rel.) with a minor in social work. So I am very aware of social science standards and SOME believe that we're predictable. If you have a smaller sample, we are fairly predictable, especially when the sample is taken from a specific group of people (swingers for instance, better yet, swingers in a specific region), once you get to the larger populations (nationwide for instance), human behavior is not easily quantified.
Try being the ONLY conservative in all the social work classes, it was fun!
Then again, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.
[quote]I propose that as an economist you are simply looking at things with a limited perspective. [/quote]
Possibly, but I also have a rare ability to look at it from an outsider's view....
[quote]There is simply no question that if a person's basic needs (food and shelter) are met, there is less motivation to risk the consequences of violating societal rules.[/quote]
I can see the logic of this, however, we are Americans, we always want MORE, we are constantly bombarded with images of MORE, we are constantly told that without MORE we are incomplete, etc.
What are the consequences of violating societal rules?
Food, shelter, clothing, TV, etc? Really tough there.
Look at prisons in Mexico, if your family does not provide, you starve, more than likely. THAT is consequences, it is a deterrant (sp?).
IMHO, one of the reasons for our increased crime rates is the lack of public punishment. If every time you turned around, you saw a group of people in black and white stripes mowing lawns, trimming trees, etc. on the side of the road in leg chains, it would cut crime considerably. If they did public executions, it would cut crime dramatically.
Then again, I am a staunch supporter of heavy penalties for crimes, especially when they are repeat offenders, most of the social scientists are not. They want more rehab and such, which I also support, BUT only for first timers, not for repeat offenders.
Anyway, I am thoroughly enjoying our debate...
Next!
Best strip clubs in Vegas? - - [quote=B_L2017]Oh well... Thanks [/quote]
But, we have some interesting places still open to go to if you want to meet swingers or get topless/naked.
Hood Piercing 911. I need advice.......... - - [quote=MASSMN]WHY DO IT AT ALL!
Can't you enjoy Orgasm's with out?[/quote]
In case you haven't been told this, you really come off sounding like a Darwin Reject Prick. Get over yourself. Stop questioning why SWINGERS allow the female half to have sex with other men or why women get their hoods pierced....It's fucktards like you that give single males a bad name. Sheesh,take a fucking midol and stop acting like a twatwaffle.
It's an age, old, question. - No, I'm NOT 94.... - Meh. Fuck who ya wanna fuck and don't fuck who ya don't wanna fuck. It's all about mutual attraction and we all get to decide what parameters we will incorporate in choosing fuck partners. Be it age, common interests, body size/shape, or just simply sexual attraction. We can't help but remember when we were n00bs and people would occasionally get upset when we didn't want to fuck them. We called it the "You're a swinger, I'm a swinger." syndrome and it boiled down to some people not taking polite rejection well. We were often accused of not being "real swingers" if we didn't hop into the sack with someone simply because they also happened to be swingers, regardless of mutual attraction. People all too often seem to get butt hurt very easily simply because someone declines to bump uglies with them. Put on your big boy (or girl) panties, pick yourself up and move on. There are FAR worse things in this world than a particular person or persons not wanting to have sex with you. If someone rejects your sexual advances just give them a polite curtsey, a little wink and tap dance off the stage.
Rant over....Seacrest out!
Saturdays Vortex Party - - Just an idea. Even the wife and I have talked about this. When we first started in the L/S back in NC. We went to hotel Parties. Then a cpl from FL baught a house just for swinger parties. They didnt live there just opened it up on sat. for swingers. It was privite house so you didnt have to worry about cops and you could pretty much do as you like. We had a good time at the V but did not like the fact that on the dance floor there was a wall of guys just stairing you down. I know Ut has its own rules. Lets just get a house. :) for us all to meet.
A Cuckold Questionnaire (Cuckold Wannabes Please read) What turns - A Cuckold Questionnaire by Experienced Bull [49M] in TEL AVIV - ISRAEL - [quote=RUNNINWILD]Who in the hell put..
DELICIOUSLYWET or
DOUBLED03 in charge of what Utah swingers are. morons maybe if your had creditable proof that might say something but you don't for a stupid post like this (Dude, the swinger reality, at least here in Utah, is way different than the porno you must be watching. Polite, charming and respectful guys are the premium around here. This questionnaire comes off really adolescent.)Speak for your self not here in Utah. Maybe there are people who side with him here in Utah, and you have no right to speak for all of Utah...you fucking Dike's[/quote]
You missed thevote. We elected them our representatives.
Std and sti testing...? - - We have a $40.00 co-pay. If physicians are doing their job, they will ask you questions. Whereas our physicians know that we are non-monogamous we always have a non judgmental honest conversation, with our physicians about our sexual activities since our last examinations. Testing does not replace condoms, and that is especially true if you are willing to play with someone who does not get tested on a regular basis. Swinging multiplies the swingers risk. Risk prevention is a choice. We feel less comfortable playing with someone who always uses protection but never gets tested than someone who may have occasionally foregone protection but gets tested regularly so long as they have been tested since the last time they had swing sex without or really even with protection. Which leads into the next paragraph.
Sometimes people choose to form relationships involving maybe just two couples, or a small group of people that get tested on a regular basis and remain exclusive, partly so that they can play without condoms. Yes there are still risk, and you have to be really careful about who is in the group, and really who even knows about the group. Yes we have been part of a group like that in the past and it rocks! Oh well, people get new jobs and move away, or go back to monogamy, or want to play the field again and groups disband. We would do it again with the right group of people.
We count ourselves lucky that as swingers we have remained healthy. Swinging is risky. Certain types of activities add to the risk. Anything that increases the level anonymity between sex partners, or decreases any participants level of personal choice and control adds to their risk. Testing and condoms reduce the risk but they do not eliminate it. We all make our own risk verses reward choices. Testing at least lets us know that at that point in time we appear to be safe to play without putting our lovers at risk.
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