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OUTSOURCING - - I thought this was very humorous. My wife and i have been swingers for a while and she is not currently playing the game. while joking around about she not being able to keep up with me she tells me "That is why I outsource you". After thinking about it i find the term really applies. and it works great as a secret word if non-playfriends may be around.

Honesty - parallels? - The topic of honesty (more accurately, lack thereof) has been prevalent in recent political posts - for good reason. Everyone would like to see more openness and honesty from the candidates. That sounds similar to one of the most common complaints among swingers. Here's the question - Does anyone think that a person could win the SURVIVOR TV game on a platform of "honesty"? Personally, I think it highly unlikely. Honesty in politics? Honesty in swinging? Honesty in game playing? Any chance?

What is it to being a swinger couple - Is it always this way - We have been in the lifestyle now for about 3 and a half years and it's been really fun meeting so many new people but I have a question. What is swinging all about? Here's my dilemma I've noticed that people we have played with act in a certain manner that is starting to disgust me. First and foremost yes we swing because we like to have sex with strangers that I fully understand. What I don't understand is the fact that all these couples say that they want the friendship at first and everything is great until after we all have sex then it's like we don't exist anymore. I enjoy the play but at times I do crave a little more of a friendship with benefits. So in the swingers life is it all about how many people you screw and that's it. We met this really awesome couple and we all hit it off like great friends but after the play was done they show no interest. I should be happy I got laid but is it wrong to be a swinger and want to have a friendship?

AZ Clubs - - [quote=JADEANDJAY]Not sure if it's still there, but when we used to live there we used to frequent Club Chameleon or Guys and Dolls.[/quote] Both have been gone for several years now. Chameleon was one of the best in the US. I have had some spectacular times there. The owners opened a diner on the east side of the valley after their club got closed down. Even though some of the old club regulars show up there, it never turned into a pick up joint. Somehow, Discretions & Encounters both survived in Phoenix. They are both much more low brow. I think that I know who put the screws to Chameleon, but I'm not 100% sure, so I'm not going to name names. The person that I think it was, got thrown out for being too drunk & rowdy, then went on a rampage in revenge. He was a hot rod builder with a lot of attitude. The last words that I remember from him were "you mess with the bull, you get the horns". There are a few bars in town that host meet & greets for local Yahoo groups, but the crowds there tend to be a bit cliquish. There is a low key party in Havisu that is very good, but it's hard to find & hard to get an invite. Havisu in general is a good place to pick up party girls if you have a boat on the lake. Tucson has an upscale nudist resort that attracts a small amount of low key swingers. Tucson also has a honkey tonk Drink-em-up bar that is run by "god" & boasts a well equipped side room for people who are feeling frisky. Just ask "god" for the "full tour" & you will get an eyefull. West of Phoenix, there are some mud baths & hot springs that occasionally see some playful action. A little north of the city, near round valley, there are some hiking areas with swimming holes that sometimes attract frisky individuals. If you are looking for kink in Phoenix, try APEX. If you want better odds at a good swinging experience, hop a quick flight over to Vegas. It's not that far. California has even better options, but it's a bit more of a ride.

Rolling??? - Thoughts Comments - I'm not taking anything wrong, I just noticed this sort of strange attitude about things when i was looking at an interracial thread. People were trying to convince others that interracial relationships and swinging were morally wrong and a major health risk, and it kinda made me think. I think it's great that everyone has talked about this. A lot of people, swingers included use drugs and I think it needs to be brought up, good or bad. And I want to say also, that I really apppreciate everyone taking the time out to post about it. And I thank you.

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looking for couples who want to be dominated - Couples domination - Though many people have fetishes and such most domi or dom would never act like this ever. Some people are into humiliation but swingers are in a league of their own.........You cant even get in the club you lozer!!! Go to some other site....obviously you can't find any....You retard!!! Oh sorry everyone else I think my Domi side just came out! YOu spineless pathetic peace of shit!!! Maybe you like the name calling cause that is all your going to get you groveling fool!!! I know their are people who love to get marked and, peirced and, even treated like a pet. I am not even against anything sexual or erotic. Some even enjoy blood and so much more....However it would be a very rare thing to find any real swingers even interested in most of these. Even a little Black Snake Moan is not so bad.....Very sexy indeed.....I love being choke but, I love being in control of everything and sooooo does my man. So can we dominate you the way you asked to dominate this community......I bet all who have replied would be willing to help torture you for you stupid ass comments. This post should of been deleted. Maybe even if you had a brain you could of asked it differently but you did not. People like you are out of your mind insane so go choke on your hanging rope!!! Now if you would of asked a simpler question then possibly you may have found a person but never a couple who likes this to that extreme.......Go to a fetish site....You will have better luck and even then its a needle in a haystack....Just saying....To know a dom you better address them the right way....You are not following any rules and at least someone who is submissive has rules!!!

fantasy football league free trying to get only swingers in leag - free autodraft fantasy football league - trying to get an all swinger league. got 3 so far trying for 20. here is the info you will need to sign up go to nfl.com under fantasy set up a profile, if you dont have one. then look up the following League ID #404175 Password:swap Draft Type:Auto Aug 25, 2011 4:00am MDT Custom Url:http://lifestylefantasy.league.fantasy.nfl.com

He wouldn’t Listen to “no” - My wife said “no” he kept going - [quote=RICOGI1]This was my point exactly. A lynch mob mentality is not constructive and the one sided accusations(I am not questioning the legitimacy of any accusation)in any forum including that of this thread has only fueled the fire and now has overzealous members messaging the wrong couple with incorrect information. Please take my initial comment in the tone that it was intended and keep positivity in our actions within the community.[/quote] First, a posting like this is everyone’s worst fear realized. People are going to over react, they are going to take her word over his, and we all react this way because we don’t want to listen to both sides of the next story, we don’t want it to happen at all. Us all saying it’s not acceptable is our way of trying to stop the next time. Second, you post about community. What separates swingers from people just “playing around”, is the trust between two people in a committed relationship trusting each other enough to play with others. Being a single male you don’t have someone to answer to, nor protect. Being single you are not a swinger, you just join those who are. Your postings show you feel equal to her, which you are not! This is why most shun SM in the community. Yes we do play with SM, those that know they are an addition to our already fun sex life, and approach it as such.

Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what. I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused.. One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on. You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden.. Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement. In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that... Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... . So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them. Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination.... We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced... I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..