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Bare Necessities Cruise out of Ft. Lauderdale - Anyone going - Well, it is a nudist cruise out of Ft. Lauderdale that goes to the Bahamas, Half Moon Cay, Key West (two days during Fantasy Fest), and then to Cozumel. While it isn't a swingers cruise, there are a pretty good number of swingers going and should be fun. Here is a link for it: http://www.bare-necessities.com/fantasea.html

Obama's Roadtrip - - [quote]Fair enough. Then why rely on them for anything that likely wasn't adequately studied?[/quote] Likely just does not do it for me...When the numbers are given AND shown how they were gathered, I tend to believe they are fairly accurate. [quote]Let's take your Pepsi/Coke example. There is likely nothing befuddling about your scenario. Just one possibility: Where are the two Florida products bottled? Maybe it's the water.[/quote] Both bottled locally, it is chalked up to being a preferance thing. In WI, lived there for a while, it was called pop or soda, unless a VERY specific thing was needed, a Mountain Dew for instance. In the south, it is a Coke no matter what it is. If someone in the south offers a Coke, it could be Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Diet Rite, Sam's Club Soda, etc. [quote]I'm glad you agree with the logic. My Bachelor's is in Social Welfare (Psych Minor). Human nature is only a bitch of a thing when you get out there a few standard deviations. The bulk of us are as predictable as rats.[/quote] Believe it or not, I have 2 BA's (econ and int. rel.) with a minor in social work. So I am very aware of social science standards and SOME believe that we're predictable. If you have a smaller sample, we are fairly predictable, especially when the sample is taken from a specific group of people (swingers for instance, better yet, swingers in a specific region), once you get to the larger populations (nationwide for instance), human behavior is not easily quantified. Try being the ONLY conservative in all the social work classes, it was fun! Then again, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. [quote]I propose that as an economist you are simply looking at things with a limited perspective. [/quote] Possibly, but I also have a rare ability to look at it from an outsider's view.... [quote]There is simply no question that if a person's basic needs (food and shelter) are met, there is less motivation to risk the consequences of violating societal rules.[/quote] I can see the logic of this, however, we are Americans, we always want MORE, we are constantly bombarded with images of MORE, we are constantly told that without MORE we are incomplete, etc. What are the consequences of violating societal rules? Food, shelter, clothing, TV, etc? Really tough there. Look at prisons in Mexico, if your family does not provide, you starve, more than likely. THAT is consequences, it is a deterrant (sp?). IMHO, one of the reasons for our increased crime rates is the lack of public punishment. If every time you turned around, you saw a group of people in black and white stripes mowing lawns, trimming trees, etc. on the side of the road in leg chains, it would cut crime considerably. If they did public executions, it would cut crime dramatically. Then again, I am a staunch supporter of heavy penalties for crimes, especially when they are repeat offenders, most of the social scientists are not. They want more rehab and such, which I also support, BUT only for first timers, not for repeat offenders. Anyway, I am thoroughly enjoying our debate... Next!

Does size really matter? - - Holy Hell, OMG. Is the fugging horse dead yet? This is a swingers site. If I prefer larger than what's available, I can always add another guy to the mix, there's a little more to sex than a dick and 2 are better than one anyway(hee hee, at least 2 me!). If I prefer smaller than what's available, I can always add another guy to the mix. If I'd like something in between ... well you get the idea. So the big question is whether, as a man, you're willing to share your gal with someone else versus the one guy with 2 girls as seems to be the standard pattern here. :)

Swingers on a Cruise - - We're taking a western Caribbean cruise the third week of march. Does anyone know of a forum where people post swinger activity on various cruises? We wouldn't mind meeting some folks for drinks and maybe more while on the cruise.

Tooele Thirsty Thursday OCT 8 - looking to do a meet and greet with tooele couples - so i already posted in our tooele group but would love to meet a few tooele couples who partake in the lifestyle. so after talking to the mrs. we figured wed like to do a meet and greet at (to keep this for couples tell me your interested and ill pm you the location.) on oct 8 at 7pm. this gives the tooele swingers a bit of an easy way to meet and get to know each other. hopefully we can make this a regular thing and maybe include some fun down the line as well.

Layton Hilton GB Saturday night. - - Sounds like a party! All swingers in the Layton area hit the Do Drop Inn at 9ish.

I see swinger people... - - Swingers are everywhere!!! Its a sexual revolution in the making!!! Not the first in history or the last. So get ready to see some love of many kinds and the minds being more open is not wrong but wiser. Change happens in the best way doing these eras in history. Be prepared to have a wonderful life!!!

Peta....are you a fan? - Their "State of the Union" message. - "If you do not wish to read or write in topics outside of the realm of swinging, then you shouldn't adventure in those areas. Just my two cents." Could not agree more, you will never see me writing in one of the "poke your fellow swinger's in the eye posts" And just for the record "Mr. TR" I've read some of your "rants" and probably agree 97.2 of everything you say "Politically". But my thinking is there's about 16 million places to "Get Political" on the Web..... Why choose a group which accounts for about 2-5 percent of the U.S. population (including YOU) to pick a fight? Why post in a "little pond" of a bunch of swingers?..

Anyone going to Habits tonight - First time for us... Habits in SLC, it sounds fun.. is anyone going - Habits has been great for couples and other swingers. They have put a lot of effort and money into their club and they deserve our support and patronage.

One month till Xmas! - - What do you want Santa (or Satan, for the dyslexic) to bring you for Xmas? 1) A foolproof way to turn vanillas to the dark side. 2) Lots of DVDA (double vaginal, double anal). 3) Some brand spanking new titties...double E please! 4) A new Mercedes...with heated seats and live streaming porn. 5) Some of that shit you inject into your dick so you can stay hard for hours and hours. 6) An all expense paid trip to Desire and a case of Magnum condoms. 7) A Hitachi vibrator with TURBO! 8) A giant stocking full of nasty swingers!