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Open Topic - Seduced a \"vanilla\" person last night... - **It seems that many \"vanilla\" people aren\'t as vanilla as they would seem when given an opportunity to be with a hot couple. lol **
Aint it the truth! I think that most single men are complete closet swingers anyway. I dont even think the term \"swinger\" should really apply. It is more like that big red button on those staples commercials...push it and instant Git Er Done! gratification!
I can not think of one single, horny male that would pass on the opportunity if it was presented.
Calling on all the shutterbugs - Any hints & tips for newbies? - P.S. I used to own my own swingers magazine (YES, I'm THAT old.) and if you would like information about WHAT you should photograph for a swingers ad. I'd be glad to help you there. Swing
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Elusive FMF - Your thoughts? - Hello All!
Forgive the long post - but I simply wanted to respond to what VP stated SO well.
Posted by VP:
Here's a question:
Is it that a single swinging female is all that elusive, or is it just more likely that a woman who's secure enough in who she is to have a liberated lifestyle is probably more likely to have a boyfriend / husband? Thus making it a simple fact of life and society that the whole concept of a liberated single female is for the most part a myth or at best a temporary state.
Guys are programmed to be tomcats. There comes a time when "every boy must become a man". But little girls are taught that "sex is something only for your husband".
Society accepts single males prowling about generally - that's why when a single guy get shat upon in a swingers site, the resultant wailing bears striking resemblance to a chorus of whining mules. They don't get it: "They don't like me? Why? I'm hot..." Now if a woman were to go out there looking for it, then she's branded a home-wrecker, "slut", "whore", or worse. Tell me you'd sign up for that cruise?
IMHO: I think when a couple starts kvetching about the lack of single females, they might do well to have a look at why it is that they want just a woman and not her S/O. Chances are, deep down those same paradigms that are causing the lack of single females are deeply rooted in their own attitudes.
From the "not so elusive" Te:
From my perspective I would have to agree with these statements wholeheartedly. I
How much risk is too much? - - [quote=ILLUSTRATOR]You're right. I'm just telling it the way I see it from what I know. I just wanted to voice the other side of this because I know women who feel this way and, although I understand how you feel, I see their side of it, too.
And the men on here who think that women truly want to be raped need to understand that they may think it's what they want, but what they really want is the unrealistic fantasy that's played out so often in the Romance Novels that are flying off the shelves. There's a reason for their high sales. But it's merely a Fantasy. These men might come across videos like that of Laci Green's and think that means all women want to be raped. They should know that, in reality, women don't want it played out. That's what the OP should know and consider. [/quote]
And a certain percentage of men may have just read that and only saw (or acknowledged), "...all women want to be raped." When we already have a very pervasive bias in our culture towards patriarchy and women being subservient to men, especially sexually, then discussions like this, IMHO, cause more harm than good. It doesn't take much looking on the internet to find sites and discussion boards where violence against women is not only overtly depicted through text and image but also actively discussed and even encouraged. Fantasize all you want but openly discussing how to fulfill rape fantasies in a swingers forum can only cause harm I think.
Bubulaplease - Sandy station? - We went to Sandy Station and were immediately approached by someone who knew we were swingers. I guess we just give off the " I'll fuck the shit out of you." vibe. That being said, we loved the club, the ambience,(except the music) but the people were super nice. Can't wait to go back.
Earthquake - - You guys have super powers now? SWEET! What are they? X-ray vision? Turning water into Moscato? Turning a crock pot of swinger meatballs into coconut macaroons? [em]Emo_96[/em]
Yeah I think Jesus is just punishing all the naughty fuckers in Bountiful. We have it on good authority (Kevin Eubanks lives there) that Bountiful is FULL of the raunchiest swingers imaginable. In fact they've talked about annexing Woods Cross and renaming the place Sodom and Gomorrah. Last week there was a gas leak on 5th West. Next week it will prolly be e.coli at Pace's Dairy Ann. [em]Emo_8[/em]
Oh for fuck's sake! - Really? - It's not enough that gonorrhea and syphilis is making a 'cum'back? Now we've got a NEW STI to worry about? Take me now, Jeebus! [em]Emo_79[/em]
[url=http://www.fox4news.com/news/83981891-story]New sexually transmitted disease scares the actual fuck out of Utah swingers and other perverts :-p[/url]
hall passes - who all does it - Never could understand the "Hall Pass" thing for swingers or the "No separate Room thing".
If you're confident in your relationship (which alot of you say you are) why do you need either?
If u guy's want to do these things...be careful what u ask for.
Your woman is going to have alot more opportunities then you.
Idea for this website - An official seal of approval for single males - As a long time member of this website (first as the couple "Tequilarose"), I have to say that being a swinger is not exclusive to couples. Swinging means you don't adhere to the exclusive sexual norm ie. 1 on 1 monogamous relationship. A couple is only one facet in the swinging lifestyle.
I would also like to add that couples that aren't into single males have a wide variety of reasons for not wanting them. Sometimes it's a fear/insecurity, from the male in a couple, that some guy will come along that's a better lover and take his lady away. Sometimes it's the woman of the relationship that doesn't want another guy, but another woman. For whatever the reason, it comes down to individual choice. If someone doesn't want something, they shouldn't be forced.
That being said, I think the same courtesy should be extended to those that wish to entertain singles. If a couple wants a single male or a single female wants a single male, they have every right to be here. If you want a "couples only" section for the website or your party, then go for it. :) Just know that when you say things like, "singles aren't swingers" or "you don't belong here", it really only makes you look and sound like an insecure bigot. How about we allow everyone with a fantasy come here and get what they want.
The "Us and Them" thing is not in a true open-minded libertine's vocabulary. If you don't want single males, don't fuck 'em. No one's forcing you to do anything with them. If you don't like the inconvenience of rejecting them, start your own website and disallow them. Otherwise, FUCKIN' DEAL WITH IT! ;)