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Lake Powell Trip June 11-14 (Last Topic got deleted somehow) - - OK,, not sure where the Announcement went but lets do this again....
Every year, we put on a Lake Powell trip. In previous years, it has been a mixed crowd,, swingers and vanillas. This year we are going to change it up and add a trip in June that is Lifestylers only. Dates for this are June 11-14. We are still doing the August trip as well, but it will be a bit tamer than the June trip.
Houseboats will be availible for those that want to go. The cost last year for the houseboats worked out to be around $800 for the 4 days per couple. This included fuel. With decreased fuel prices this year, it should be a bit less. If we get enough people to warrant it, and if I can talk the pig supplier to provide pigs twice in one year (Yes, Buttabing, this is directed towards you) we will do a luau pig on Saturday night.
Last year, some people tent camped as well so staying on a houseboat is not a requirement. As a courtesy though to those that are renting the houseboats, if you do use the amenities of the houseboat such as bathrooms, showers, cooking and kitchen stuff, etc... you donate to whoever rented the boat.
Having a boat is not a requirement. Those that do have them don't seem to have a problem "adopting" those that don't.
A bunch of peeps from this site went last year and from what we hear, everyone had a good time.
I will need commitments from those that want to go no later than March 29th so I can ensure that I tie up enough houseboats for those that want them.
No more political crap - - We are tired of all the political crap ..... we are on here because we are swingers and we love sex ........ So lets get on with some good \'ol hot fucking, cum dripping, pussy licking pics and have a good time !!!!!!!!! P.S. We hate the frigging terreriost too;)
Lifestyle friendly doctors - Lifestyle talk - My guess is non-monogamous sex is something they talk with patients about everyday, literally everyday. The fact your spouse knows about it might be the unusual part.
There really is nothing to fear with any doctor. Swingers are on the mild scale of sexual issues they talk about, at least that's what our doctor told us.
Why is same sex marriage really such a big deal - Just rambling, could be interesting... - KOIMOO,
Marriage is not just for rearing children. It's a committment of two or more people to live together or "partner" for X amount of time. It's a contract. Some religions say until death. One of the outcomes of some marriages, can be children but even for a great many of them, children cannot or do not occur. For you to make such an all-encompassing statement is ignorant on your part.
Marriage can be for many things including but not limited to love, convenience, lust, children, foolishness, money etc. Whatever your reason, it should be your own decision as an adult. We all deserve equality. We should all be able to marry who we want to marry. Marriage is a contract in the eyes of the law. Any humans that are of consenting age should be able to marry. It's not your place or mind to determine what suits others.
If you want to speak of evolution. The process of selection makes that trait which is less favorable cause the eventual demise of the genetic line involved. If humans or all animals for that matter, were endanger of your fear, homosexuality would've been selected out a long time ago. The truth is, it's been around since before upright humans and will continue to go on. For you to deny someone equality for such reason just shows how naive you really are. Your argument counts against every marriage that doesn't seek children. Sexuality has nothing to do with it.
If you want to use [i]"evolution"[/i] as an argument against marriage. Let's deny everyone who has a genetic defect in their family the right to marriage. Come on people. We live in a society that's meant to be free and we have people constantly trying to deny it to a certain group because of bigotry.
To the religious folks,
When these oppressed people have had enough and the fires start, I am gonna bust out the marshmallows. To all you religious swingers out there that defend this non-sense, you better believe if some church was trying to deny me marriage to the love of my life, I would cook me some churches. Give me liberty or give me death. That's my motto. Fuck any motherfucker trying to oppress that which many have died to give me, my freedom. Take your bible and jam it in your fuckin colon.
Some of you might say, "Delete this post! It's offensive" or "Get TR out of this site, I am tired of the offensive posts". Let me just say this. This subject offends me. What you are saying to gay people is offensive. I can't believe after the advances in civil rights we've overcome in the last 1/2 century, we're still dealing with bigotry to the point where bigots have the majority to pass bigoted laws. Where does that majority originate??? The Christian Church. The only difference between these fools and radical islam is that the oppressed in the Middle East fight back. Here we let it happen. I say get this shit calling itself Judeao/Christianity out of our government and public for good! Secularity will give equality to everyone. GAWUD has no place in government.
[i]"Although a political subject we can all learn that tolerance is a virtue not all of us have. Same sex marriage is a way for people to stand together with some one they love. Whether physical or emotional. Same sex marriage is not an emotional problem but is in fact a legal problem to many. Our courts, family services are clogged with cases for hetero marriage problems, and now add same sex marriage to the quotion. The average divorce with children involved can take up to 14 months to conclude. If you add same sex marriage that would stretch that to almost 24 months and bring issues the courts are not prepared to handle. I know you all want to attack religion but this is only a small portion of those that object too same sex marriage. Gay couples can adopt although more diffacult it does happen, can a partner recieve money if his/her partner dies? yes they can especially if the child concerned is not of legal age. Marriage is a legal contract not religious, living together and treating one another with respect and love is the moral side of any marriage legal or not. "[/i]
 Rights to equality shoot down your argument that it would further "clog" the system. Just as saying the same about interracial marriage. Would you deny a black man and white woman marriage based on that same reasoning, if it were still illegal? We somehow managed to take that extra load when it happened.
 Our government wasn't prepared to handle 9/11 with airport security and we created TSA. I am sure we can handle same-sex marriage. ahaha. I love some of these ludacris arguments.
 Religion is not a small part of the objection to marriage. Religion is on the forefront.
 Recieving money for death, isn't the argument. It's equality. Gay people should have the same right to marry the person they choose just as you do, with all rights and priviledges.
Why are there so many "single" female profiles who are actually - An honest question. - [quote=EVILDOERS]And another thing. People posting pics of themselves defying gravity and standing straight out from the wall and shit. Not sure if it's some kind of Satanic power or if it's a Photoshop trick but it's VERY misleading. We once contacted a single dude who, judging by his apparent ability to stand on walls and ceilings, led us to believe we could get into some REALLY kinky innovative sex positions. Needless to say he couldn't even stand at like a 45 degree angle to the wall let alone straight out. We made him pack up his ginormous dick that never goes soft and told him to hit the bricks. [em]Emo_84[/em]
And then of course there are the ones who claim they can walk on water. Jesus Christ, who do they think they are?[/quote]
Here again ask for references. If you know somebody that has actually experienced their bodies then you will know a bit more about them. Then again not every woman inspires every man the same and especially with new swingers it might be nerves or even intimidation if the woman is super hot.
We only hit about two or three meet and greets a year. When we do go we try and introduce ourselves to everyone in the room. It helps others to know that we are a couple that mostly plays as a couple. If someone is checking up on us they will be more likely to know someone that can say yes they in fact do exist and we always see them together when we do see them. We hit the KnK meet and greets about twice a year and maybe some other event. Meet and greets are fun and you cannot meet too many nice people but aren
Friendship vs. spontaneity? - Are you here to make friends or just to fuck? - The perception of this lifestyle is that there is a whole lot of sex going on between everyone. Maybe if you are young slim and trim and willing to go to bed with everyone at the drop of a hat that is true. But that pretty much describes the young anyway. If that is your perception of all swingers, and you are here in Utah, then you are bound to be disappointed.
I think that this question comes up a lot because it is not a simple question for many of us and it seems to be posted by those seeking friends first. The end goal may be sex. But if that is your only goal then why do you say you are seeking friends. Friendships are not made in 30 seconds or a drink over at the pub. If that is what makes friendships in your mind then you are really just here for sex.
For us it is finding friends. Some folks that we meet we will play with and some we will be just friends with. It really boils down to a 4 way vote when it comes to the bedroom and maybe even being friends in the first place. And that is what makes finding friends and bedroom partners difficult. There is always the added fear of rejection that gets in the way when you want to anything anyone.
I look at all the complaints of one-nighters and couples that never speak again after sex. I can only surmise that for those folks sex is the only yard stick of friendship. You do not have to be sexually compatible to be friends.
We have found that if what you are looking for is friends, then it is easy to be part of the lifestyle. If what you are looking for is based on having sex then it is easy to be disappointed and difficult to be part of the lifestyle.
Furthermore we look at those that just want to screw and think how lonely their existence must be.
where are the real people who want to swing - run into to many phonies - where the hell are all the real swingers at out there and how come it is so hard to find them
and where are the real down to earth ones who are not ken and barbie and looking for real people at.
Where have all the SWINGERS gone? - - We are young but we have been in the lifestyle about 5 years. What happend to the to the lifestyle of the 70's. Todays lifestyle is full of dull and boring people. No one partys anymore. So many people just want to meet and fuck. Where did all the cheaters come from, I mean what is a straight single male swinger. Let us know if you're out there. We need new faith.
Entice 2007 in Niagra Falls - We will be at the Entice convention, 10 to 14 Oct. - Hi all!
We are looking for couples that are going to the Entice swingers convention in Niagra Falls, NY, 10 to 14 October. We are hoping to meet some nice people that from all over the country. Is anyone from here going to the convention?
If you are a couple going to the Entice convention, please drop us a note. We would love to hear from you. Lets get started getting to know one another now before the events begin there. :z
Hugs to all the wondersful couples here from us.
Marsha & Dirk
P.S. Hope to have some new photos after Entice.....
Fast lane travel in the digital age - Swinging - The internet was already up and running when we started swinging and AFF existed but as for local swingers parties and meet and greets they were still not something you could stumble across by surfing the internet. AFF had been up and running for a while we think and we and a few of our friends tried the short term look and see memberships which we dropped. We did not even dabble in AFF until after we had been to a few events and had swing sex. Swingular was actually around but not quite so popular. We remember going to a meet and greet at Club Vegas and having some friends there tell us about it. All the couples at the table were just hearing about the site and we ended up joining and yes membership has some real advantages. It did not take long before Swingular was commonly recognized and used here in Utah. We actually had a membership under a different handle a while back that we closed. We did not stop swinging altogether we just played less and only with established friends or if we met someone that was friends of a friend. We rejoined Swingular in 2011 and well here we are. Since rejoining we have met a few people we did not yet know prior to re-establishing our membership because of the site. I was about to say we have not hooked up much with this profile but in actuality we can think of 10 new people we have had some sexual naked fun with since we re-joined and only 2 of the aforementioned people we met without first having some profile interchange. Damn we are slutty, slutty little slutty, slut, slut, sluts.
So forget everything I said the internet works and Swingular rocks! We have noticed a bit less civility and respect in the digital discussions these days but if the magic is still happening in behind closed doors then it is working. Reading forum content is a safe way to determine who to avoid anyway! Just be careful out there people!!