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Whats happend to us since.... - - We've met some really kick ass people, to include the author of this post. My wife and I are from Oregon where the scene is a little more mainstream and a little less "Hush Hush". With all of the that "Hippy Love" left over from the 60's, the "On-Premise" clubs and being so full of liberals, Oregon is a swingers paradise. The Ironic thing is, because of the religious backgrounds of a lot of the Native-Born Utahans (being told no and don't from birth), they are some of the most sexually explosive people I have ever encountered. It is, at times, breathtaking! In fact my wife and I went from, soft swap voyeurs to the full swing naughty things, because of the energy here. It is as though we struck gold in the desert. Don & Tami :D

are there not any ladies who just gotta have fun in the day ??? - good times ??? - [quote=HELLO_KITTY12984]Well the title of your post says "any ladies" so I'm going to assume you're talking about single females. They're called unicorns for a reason. And as a general rule... you're not going to find them here on a swinger site. You gotta look elsewhere. As for couples... its more of a matter of patience and being in the right spot at the right time. The fun exists. You just gotta find the right match for you. And if you read the forums regularly... seems like there's a lot of openness... just not necessarily around here. ;)[/quote] The baton, gets passed on every generation, and I am confident the runners just now taking the baton and those waiting for their turn are better prepared and certainly have more access to the tools necessary to make things better, more open, etc., etc., and to pick up the pace. I am talking about society as a whole, and swinging and swingers is part of the whole. CPLINTOOELE, you are talking day time play, it appears, and that eliminates quite a few during the work week. I have come to the conclusion that the number one barrier for hooking up, for most of us is time, because we are all so damned busy, and the number two obstacle is a place. If you make it plain you have a place, if that be the case, then it will be more likely you will grab the attention of a lady that has the time and that can play on your schedule.

Male bi - Why all the taboo about male bi - I find controversy within the swinging community almost silly. We are collectively engaged in an activity that most of our non-swinging peers would describe (at least in public) as way out there, far beyond the pale. However within our "open" community a few people tend to limit themselves and try to limit others by saying that I am right and thus everyone else is wrong. We can have open discussion on soft swing and full swap, same room and open. We have clubs and parties and swinging resorts to talk about. Everyone has their own opinion, and most are very open to the opinion of others. One area where the discussion does tend to polarize swingers is the subject of bisexual males. Doesn't this strike you as odd? Bisexual females are perhaps the single most powerful driving force within the swinging community. And bisexual males are the closest thing we have to a paria. Part of that is surely the fear of disease but not entirely. Fear of disease is a clear concern in all swinging and can be controlled. There are far fewer bisexual males in swinging than besexual females but we do not exclude straight females. Why the exclusion of bisexual males? Perhaps times are changing and bisexual males will become an accepted part of the swinging community. In the interim we intend to at least give them the benefit of the doubt.

Certified Single Males Program - A new program that benefits respectable single men - I could see a little "course" on swingers ettiquete (sp?) but I think ALL men should take it...My experience has been that men with a girlfriend or wife are far more likely to break "the rules" so to say... BUT I also think in lieu of that, maybe a system where couples can "ceritfy" the single men as being genuine and real, PLUS the course, the course may be one seal, the certified as cool another.... Who knows...Something should be done to make it a little easier for them...

Scuba, Nude Beaches, Swingers - Scuba, Nude Beaches, Swingers - We also love to dive and was thinking how much fun it would be to do a livaboard trip with swingers. I dont know of any outfits that would possibly allow it but think it would be fun. We spent 7 days on the Cat Pallue in the Bahamas diving the Exumas what a blast. Anyways if something comes about with a nude cruise let us know.

Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what. I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused.. One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on. You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden.. Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement. In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that... Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... . So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them. Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination.... We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced... I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..

Member Since - How long have you been on? - Swingers since 2006 swingular since sept 2007....The Tarts:p

Other than the SLC spice party? - Who's not going? - We're not going I agree With D&T please Express your opinions it gives me something to read LOL Anyhow My Opinions,, Having never been to a spice party I cant Judge an actual spice party. I went to a party with the same crowd and felt like I was at a middle school dance where I just wanted to be a wallflower and pretend I wasnt there. Very Clicky, I am sure If I became a regular there and got to know some of the people I am sure that would change. But I dont want to. I will point out that I felt the same way at my first party from another group.. However in the crowd we prefer to hang around Its the same way (we're like Arent those the spice party people Ewwww !) Just kidding ! we dont really. However we dont go out of our way to go over and chat with these people either. We have met Robert and Jen, (got our VIP LOL) and M & M and well all the other couples everyone is picking on here and they all seem nice enough Are we a match as swingers and potential sex partners Nope leave it at that the reasons are obvious. I am way too much man for them to handle LOL... Happy new year to all our friends tip a few back for us We're homebound NYE this year Blew the wad on christmas.

Hot Tattoo! - Puff the Magic Dragon - Hey TR, Jealous much, don't have the guts to do something so permanent? Why are you such a hater? Why do men accuse other men of being Gay when they are jealous of them? are you a homophob? If you understood Gay people at all you would not sling your sexual accusations around. Why cant gay people be swingers?, you don't mind Bi-females do you? They are gay you know?

couples with kids - - PAS. Head over to the airport and fly on up to Chicago (lol I know how goofy that sounds but HEY it was funny) You can come party with us. CMDuo It is funny we have noticed the same thing. Shy That is why our swinger friends love our kids They baby sit for MOST of them and they get paid well because the are always reliable. Our 16 & 17 year old are not too happy now that they know we are swingers but the almighty buck ruled. LOL (side note, they normally baby sit from 7 pm Saturday to 4 pm Sunday and get $ 75 for two kids. Is that enough?) GOOD GOD Tits you have the energy? LUVBUGS at the risk of sounding like a single guy internet vulture DAMN GIRL would travel to you on short notice <chuckle>

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