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younger age party only. - wondering how many people in utah would be interested in a younger group only party. - Wait, I forgot about people who like lima beans. FUCK THAT SHIT! If you like lima beans you can't come to our party either.
And on the off chance that anyone thinks I was even semi-serious or making some kind of ironic characterization of people who discriminate against others in swinging, well...you don't know me very well then. We absolutely think EVERYONE should discriminate in the lifestyle. Fuck who you want to fuck (well, if they want to fuck you as well that is...rape is not cool) and don't fuck who you don't want to fuck. Nothing worse than people who think just because you both happen to be swingers that you should fuck them regardless of attraction or whatever. But I WAS semi-serious about the way to approach it in an open forum where you're bound to get push back as well as hurt some feelings vs. doing it a little more discreetly. Some (certainly not me!) might accuse you of doing it openly to expressly stir things up and/or to make some kind of point. Hopefully that wasn't the OP's purpose and it was just a slight lapse of judgment or a noob faux pas.
Pictures all over the web - - just did a search for our profile name and it's on like 10 different sites that we didn't sign up for.
here's a link as an example http://swingers.letsmeetup.com/profile.aspx?user=ripbecki
Does this mean swingular is selling our profiles to other sites or what? If not can we a expalantion or what's going on?
Swinging Events....what do you think? - - To Fellow Swingers & Friends
We are planning on throwing a swingers party in Los Angeles within the next few months and we are looking for positive and negative feedback with regards to your past party experiences. Please take the time to respond to this email so we can better provide an overall and fun experience for the LA party. Please consider what made the party successful and what would you like to see different? Who knows...maybe we will have one here in SLC soon.
Looking forward to receiving your feedback,
Adam & Leigh
Swingers ski trip to Colorado - - Hi, we are going on a Swingers ski trip to Colorado Feb. 4th-9th. We are looking for a couple or couples to go with us because it's much cheaper that way. It comes to $900 per couple for 5 nights at 1 bedroom apartment, lift tickets for 3 days of skiing, Airport round trip transfer. (Skis rent extra around $100 per person if you don't have your own).
To take virtual resort tour go here http://tours.360house.com/Viewer_pr.cfm?ID=71455
Look for one bedroom or Colorado suite. Looks like very good resort.
Here you can find more info on the trip http://www.astraveloffl.com/
We have been looking to go to Colorado for a while and can tell you that's a very good price.
Only transfer from Denver airport cost $200 round trip per person, 3 days lift tickets cost $200 if you buy it on line in advance and over $250 at the door. So, price worth it. Plus, skiing such a fun and Colorado is the only place in U.S. that comparable to famous european ski trails.
If you are a couple and want to go with us lets talk about it.
Please, be under 40. We prefer local to us couples so, we can meet and see if we all can live together in one apartment for five nights. :)
Why did you join Swingular? - Wondering what brings people here - Someone turned us on to the site, and we are trying to make new friends in the Tampa area. Lots of swingers here in Florida, and we look forward to meeting you.
R & C
The unbearable burden of proof. - Congratulations! You have an opinion. Why does everybody else have to agree with it? - Well, this certainly seems like a 'diverted extension' to me. But, since you did ask (and publicly), here goes:
People often tell others what they've done, to demonstrate that they have a certain amount of experience doing it. Simple enough. And, in remarkable contrast to your opinion, it's not necessarily to sound intelligent or to give credence to an outrageous postulations. Sometimes they actually know what they're talking about.
Unfortunately, you can't assume that just because someone talks about their experience, they really don't know anything.
As to your comment concerning years of experience...(and you immediately zero in on computers...hmmm...wonder what that's about?)
1. As T4REAL capably put it, the kid from college has 'book smarts', but often lacks the real-world experience to make that training useful. Give me the vet every time - and if you listen, you'll find many who will echo that. Probably a majority. Why? Because the vet's not only seen more real problems, but they've been involved in more real answers.
I recall a quote along the lines of "The biggest fault of youth is inexperience". While the young grad *cannot* have the benefit of experience the vet does, it *is* possible the vet can have the experience and the (recent) academic exposure, as well.
2. My mom - an educator herself, with degrees in all sorts of stuff, told me once, "I went to college to learn what I didn't know". (Little play on words, there - she was a languistics teacher). What she meant was that, beyond high school is another type of learning - broad and still detailed. You really begin to realize how little you actually know about things when you're exposed to further education. You gain an advanced perspective, which in turn makes you realize you know diddly, in the grand scheme of things. (Happy Mother's Day, Mom)
3. "Any more than 5 years of doing something allows a person sufficient enough time to become calcified into a single-mindedness that allows the world to pass you by anonymously." Nice pile of words...but, sure - it does 'allow...sufficient time' - but, again, it doesn't guarantee anything.
If a person does anything for *any* length of time, and doesn't work to keep current, they will fall behind what is current. But you have little way of knowing how current people are, just based on some post on an Internet swingers site. Five years of doing something doesn't automatically mean someone's fallen behind, either.
And the 62.5% of all statistics you cite? Well, doesn't that mean 37.5% are completely legit? (No matter the fictitious percentage *you* make your point with, it's complement will always oppose you). Again, trouble here is you have no way of knowing whether a given citation is accurate or not - but you can't just assume they're all wrong.
Again, as in our recent discussion elsewhere - I put my opinion out there, and I have no problem letting others read and decide for themselves. Some people (*ahem*) seem so interested in contradicting others, they get far, far away from the matter at hand.
You may find it interesting to know, I'm not really formally educated much beyond high school and military technical training; I hold no degrees, and very few certifications, proper. What I know about PC's I've learned almost entirely on my own. To be honest, I'd prefer a guy who learned because he really had passion enough to learn on his own. This is one reason I have so many machines at home...it's a hobby, but it's also a huge test bed; a training apparatus. And I've been training for over 25 years (sorry, I'm sure you hate me saying that).
On the other hand, with no more education and certificates than I have, I did actually run a reasonably successful business for a while. I've managed to support my family at a level *well* beyond the means you'd expect from my education alone.
So, it's possible that I do know what I'm talking about, although I don't expect you'll ever acknowledge that. It's OK, I don't really require your acknowledgement.
I do realize I'm making a few assumptions here myself. While this isn't necessarily about me, it damn sure smacks of it; not at all subtle of you.
Still, I've tried to indulge you, without attacking you or being insulting. I hope you learn what there is to know from the responses to your post.
And T4real - excellent points!
swinger club in Clarksville TN. - - There is a guy who is in the process of building a swingers club in CLarksville TN. we would like to know who in our town would join this club and if they think it's a good idea?
Your site "support"... - SUCKS! - Seriously? This is a swinger site run by swingers...the most notoriously flaky group of attention deficit disorder social misfits in modern culture. That this IRL is actually functional, albeit, not to your standards, is a miracle that I'm not about to diminish in any way, shape, or form. You want predictable dependability...go to Match.com My God, the entire premise of this lifestyle is unpredictable, largely random encounters with strangers...but you are obsessed with the process being neat and orderly?
Hot wife - - A short time back, we established a group in the group section in order to help couples that enjoy Hot Wife Play sort of cull the herd. Also, hot wife play, for a lot of swingers we know in Salt Lake is perhaps a bit different than it may be elsewhere. We were thinking this might be a way couples could meet and or introduce some of the single men they like, to other couples, and that single men could do the same for couples. Couples could also perhaps meet a few new couples, that might become playmates, in the process too. A bit of a mutual admiration society as it were. The group has not enjoyed much participation as of yet. But then again, we ourselves, have been really passive as of late. Perhaps, the requirements for admittance are a bit too steep for some, but we will stand by them. In the end everyone needs to do their own leg work and make their own choices. The group is as follows:
[i]Hot Wife Play in Salt Lake City
"Hot Wife" is often used synonymous with the term Cuckold, but it is NOT how most swinger couples view “Hot Wife Play” and not at all what this group is about. Hot Wife Play for most of the swingers we know in Salt Lake City, is where the husband feels he has the hottest woman in the world, and wants to share her, and the wife enjoys all the erotic attention his devotion and fantasy creates for her. When in the mood, swinger couples are not looking for a sexual replacement for the husband, but rather a sex life enhancement adventure to share that includes a single man. The single man lucky enough to be a part of this sort of thing must be very respectful. The stuff of fantasy! Not all men measure up. Our wives don't want to be with physically or emotionally mediocre men. Husbands don't want to watch their wives with mediocre men. Polite, respectful, attractive, intelligent and good humored single men can do well in the swing community.
Single men need to take the emphasis off of "Hot Wife" as a singular devotion or lifestyle for couples that say “yes” to single men and consider it more of a fantasy and a pleasure for couples to make a reality, when that is what they desire, and they can be part of that reality. Couples swing in other realms and often prefer couples hook ups most of the time. In other words, let's not consider it any more than what it is, a fantasy, and a possible reality that couples can use to hopefully enhance their relationship and single men can use to have sex with an incredibly passionate and orgasmic woman. Swinger couples, like us, sometimes wish to focus our attention on our hot wife's sexual fulfillment. She is so sexy that watching her in passion's full embrace, with another man can be extremely rewarding and erotic. As for me I watch until I can no longer wait to join in and ravish her.
When a woman is just so sexually hot, that she is a gift to the world, and her passions and her orgasms cross over into the realm of the sacred, then encouraging select gentlemen, to join in such divine worship of a hot wife's sexuality is a total fucking blast!! That is what this group is about!!
Additional tips for single men wishing to join the group :
Have a sense of humor
Don't be pushy
Don't be whiny
Be willing to host
This is a group specific to Hot Wife Play in and around Salt Lake City. You either have to live in or near Salt Lake City or be a frequent visitor.
[b]Single men must have a recommendation from a member couple. All members must be verified as "Real" or "VIP" before admittance into the group.[/b][/i]
Perhaps, if enough people join the group someone could set up a "by invitation" meet and greet, for the group members, at one of the event venues.
Vanilla friends / lifestyle - revealing our lifestyle to longtime friends -
There will always be those that are quick to pass judgement on others. We choose not to bother ourselves with people like that. We are no ashamed of who we are, nor are we scared of any of our friends or family finding out. As you can tell by my actions on these forums, I (Don), do not live my likes based upon what others think of me. I could give a fuck less. The people I love and live for already know, love and accept me. I say why bother wasting your time with people that suffer from delusions of being holier than thou. They can fuck off.
I see it as a "need to know" situation. If our friends are indeed in the "need to know", we tell them. If we see potential in involving them, we bring them along to a party. If they have an issue and try and force their morals, we cut our losses. What's cool is now nearly all of our friends are swingers or swinger friendly. So it's really no longer an issue.
Think about this. If a person... your "friend" were to say, "Swinging isn't right". Could you not just say, "What makes it wrong?" After all, you are not forcing them to do it. It maybe wrong for them. How is that wrong for you? It doesn't involve them at all. If they are so concerned with what you do in the bedroom, perhaps they are not basing the friendship on the things that really matter. They are not true friends.
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