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T4REAL69, The Don

There will always be those that are quick to pass judgement on others. We choose not to bother ourselves with people like that. We are no ashamed of who we are, nor are we scared of any of our friends or family finding out. As you can tell by my actions on these forums, I (Don), do not live my likes based upon what others think of me. I could give a fuck less. The people I love and live for already know, love and accept me. I say why bother wasting your time with people that suffer from delusions of being holier than thou. They can fuck off. I see it as a "need to know" situation. If our friends are indeed in the "need to know", we tell them. If we see potential in involving them, we bring them along to a party. If they have an issue and try and force their morals, we cut our losses. What's cool is now nearly all of our friends are swingers or swinger friendly. So it's really no longer an issue. Think about this. If a person... your "friend" were to say, "Swinging isn't right". Could you not just say, "What makes it wrong?" After all, you are not forcing them to do it. It maybe wrong for them. How is that wrong for you? It doesn't involve them at all. If they are so concerned with what you do in the bedroom, perhaps they are not basing the friendship on the things that really matter. They are not true friends.

-Don- "Ich habe einen kleinen Vogel in meinem Kopf."

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cartoons fuckies - - Marge & Homer are swingers!!! I had no idea.

Give us single guys a chance:) - - Like it or not swinging is a couples driven activity. If it weren't for couples it wouldn't be swinging it would be...well just fucking. Some couples like playing together or alone with single guys. Many do not. Single guys just need to realize that the supply far exceeds the demand and that many are not going to be open to you because they became swingers to exchange partners and BOTH partners want to experience playing with someone new. Now the fact that many couples ARE open to single ladys and not single men is another story (and sort of a double standard unless you account for the whole bisexual thing). So single guys are just going to have to accept the fact that they are in limited demand, have (in general) a bad reputation (due to the many bad apples) and have less to offer a couple than another couple does. Who ever said life was fair?

This Weekend? - - Hall Party in a St. Louis hotel....swingers event....what fun.....free beer and good food....for couples only....THATS WHERE WE ARE HEADED FOR SAT......:z

Adulter or Swinger? - - I'll probably catch a lot of flack for what I'm about to say but here goes. SWINGING is or was started by servicemen in the late 50 and early 60's . Two MARRIED couples would SWAP wives for the night. Generally, the odd couples would repair to different rooms and play. The only thing sharred about it was that they had swapped... Then it progressed to parties and shoe parties or key parties and couples would go with the person whos shoe or keys they would get from the pile. Over the years single women were welcomed into the swinger ranks since swinging/swapping had evolved to simply recreational sex.... They were welcomed because women were looking for bi sexual experiences and men like the idea of 2 on one and watching women together. Enter the single men.... When I was younger we called young single men and women getting together dating... Now we have singles "dating" swingers???? Enter the married guy who isnot happy with what he has at home and thinks swinging is a legal/moral way to get strange.... Bottom line one needs to be married or in a committed relationship to cheat. Cheating is where one of the couple goes out and plays with someone other than their partner.... So for a married woman, not in a "relationship" to have sex with anyone, another single, randomly is not cheating but in a very broad sense, is in fact swinging. I would also say that one could also say that that person is dating.... regardless of the sexual connotations. One thing to note here is that swinging has evolved to something more than recreational sex. It now has the connotation of friends or friendship involved. In fact, there are actually people who wish to have closed sexual relations with one or more couples. Exclusive in nature where each couple involved only has sex with their partner and with ONLY people who have agreed that they willl do the same... So cheating is the only cut and dried issue... Non consensual sex with other than ones own partner of a committed relationship. The rest is either dating or swinging/swapping... I'm sure we all knew this but it needs to be reiterated from time to time...

UK Swingers sought - - Hiya!! We are a genuine lifestyles couple (please see our profile) that would like to make contact with other UK swingers through here but, so far, have had no luck.... Are there any out there want to chat and exchange info/experiences?? Please get in touch... XXX Dave and Andrea XXX www.frenzswingers.com frenz_999@yahoo.com Picture is from our last couples party before Xmas

Looking for same room fun. - People push for more - If you're looking to have sex together, as a couple, with another couple, in the same room, also having sex and nothing more than that, you really should just spell it out just that clearly in your profile. No that shouldn't make you a second class citizen, in the swing community, or the subject of disdain nor should you be subjected to any pressure to do more. Some full swap swingers, enjoy that sorts of play too. It's pretty uncomplicated, safe, yet still really erotic. Since both couples are playing with their own permanent partner you can demonstrate first hand what you do really, really well together. You can have and watch each other's happiest endings. What's not to like about it? Try posting a booty call with just such a specific message and include any other preference criteria you wish for and see what happens. Have fun!

Couples oasis or Red Roister - Which do you prefer - "...in advanced stages of their lives or have been ridden way too hard and put away wet on far too many occasions." You say that like it's a bad thing! All I know is that the last time we were at the Red Rooster (admittedly probably 10 years ago) we saw THE largest couple we've ever seen in a swing club (or possibly anywhere else!). By the time they got up the stairs (single file as the stairway is NOT ADA compliant) they were sweating SO hard and were SO out of breath that we made a break for it before they got their second wind and took their clothes off. But you know what, good for them for being comfortable in their own...uh, skin and wanting to get their freak on in front of a small group of geriatric swingers. We did, out of morbid curiosity, scan the obituaries the next day because if someone there that night didn't have a coronary event then surely someone was crushed to death. And yes I'm a BAD person for saying that even if it's due to imbibing a WHOLE Redd's Wicked Apple Ale all by myself, on an empty stomach. Yeah, you heard it here first. The 'Doers KNOW how to party on a Saturday night! [em]Emo_57[/em]

Newbee! - Need advice - First off, expect to run into some flakes, people who will agree to a meting and not show up. There are all kinds of different reasons someone might do that, but just the fact that they don't show is the important thing. It's kind of sad, but it's just a fact of swinging life. But keep in mind that those people are not that majority. Second and this is what's probably causing you difficulty, is that it's in many ways a numbers game. If what you are offering is what lots of people want, and if what you want to do is what lots of people are into doing, you'll have large numbers of swingers out there who could be interested. If either of those are something not very many people want, the number o people gets limited. If there are 4000 people on the site whose interests re the same as yours, you'll stand a much better chance of finding people with whom you're really compatible than you would if there are only 100 or so out there. And, while the actual numbers I used are likely way wrong, you're in the second category. You might want to think about adding that while you want the hubby to get a BJ from a guy, it isn't actually a requirement. In fact, if it were me, I'd leave that out altogether. While people do sometimes find someone online, meet with them, and then hook up, that happens less frequently, I think, than people hooking up after meeting in person at an event or party. When you meet in person, both couples can get an idea who the others really are, and whether or not they want to play. If both couples decide they want to, that's when you can talk about what you'd like. You might even want to forget about the guy-guy stuff at first, and bring it up as a possibility after you've known the couple for a little while. Men in general have a real problem with male on male sex, and just bringing it up at the start might scare some people off. But if you do start some kind of playing relationship with someone, do not try to sort of sneak the male-male thing into it, say in the middle of a play session. If you reach a point where you think they might be open to it, make sure you discuss it beforehand. That having been said, there are bi guy on the site. In fact, there's even one whose username is something like bi for couples, a single guy who wants to play with both halves of a couple. You probably ought to go to some meet n greets and some events so you can meet people, rather than relying on just the site itself. Probably the best place to meet and hook up is at parties, and you need to meet people so that you'll get invited to some. ~ Terry

ogden meet and great - - It seems having it in a "closed off" area just invites scrutiny. Look at habits, its not private but they had meet and greets there for years. You can have one at any bar, just a group of friends out for the evening and then if you do run into someone and they say "there are swingers here..." you just go really? where? lol

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