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Feelings on Karma - spouses in a open relationship that break the rules, then will allow you to also - Are you serious? If it sounds like a good topic for The Jerry Springer Show... People like that are not good "swingers" for lack of a better term. They are foolishly wagering their relationships to be self indulgant (sp?). The Lifestyle is about TRUST. It is about HONESTY. and believe it or not, supreme COMMITTMENT. I dont even really see how your situation has anything to do with swinging. The rules were set. The rules were broken. It is simply CHEATING. Anyone who would enter in to a committed relationship, whatever type it is, only to break the rules that you two have agreed on as a couple is selfish in my book. This means you had NO respect for your partner. NO respect for thier feelings. And absolutely NO respect for the relationship. So why bother!? Cheating is NOT a tennis ball to be whacked back and forth between courts, or awarded as some kind of concellation prize to the victim when one is caught. I think that behavior is just sick. But thats just my little tiny .02 cents. Luvbugs! (mR.) :s

i got threatened with sexual harrassment - - Let me put it very simply for you in the next few phrases. Don't squat where you eat Don't dip your pen in the company inkwell Not to be harsh on you but you did ask for it. When at work, if you talk of swingers it would be like "WTF are you talking about?. You mean people that sit on swings or swing dancing or those people that have sex with each other in a group?". We will NEVER tell you we swing nor will we even admit knowing anyone who does. Unless we do see you swap at a party, in our eyes you are not swingers and we will never reveal ourselves to you. We avoid those who insist on rubbing it in the faces of others that they are swingers. We don't want to be guilty by association. Even if we know you are swingers, we will mention names only if we think you need to know and then, only first names. No cities, towns, dog's name, etc, etc. If you are ever "outed", we will be "OMG!!! They do that???? I never knew".

Playing Alone - - Couples all have different rules. Many categorically refuse to play alone with ANYONE ever. This is their "security" place. They feel comfortable in the place where they can see each other and "protect" if necessary. It takes some people a long time to get passed this. It's kind of a 'control' thing leftover from the vanilla life. I'm not saying it's bad, good or indifferent it's just the way it is. Some people take longer to get passed their histories as vanillas than others. As they progress and get more comfortable with themselves, the lifestyle, their partners then they will slowly open up and begin to trust a bit more. Don't take it personally, that's the key. Many people still hang on to their vanilla background that their partners are their most 'valued' possession. I liken it to my $450 deep sea fishing reel. Sure I'll loan it to someone to use if I'm on the boat with them and can make sure they're taking care of it. Is there anyone I'd just let 'borrow' it out right for the day or weekend? Not a chance in hell. It takes time to let go of that 'she's/he's mine' get feeling. I think my wife and I took almost 6 years before we got there successfully. We tried many times before that but it never worked out well for either of us. We finally came to a point where it's okay to play separately everything from next room to next state it no longer bothers us. I personally prefer within 30 - 50 miles so she get's home faster for the "after play" sex you're describing (which I really like too.) You'll have to find a VERY secure, VERY established, VERY strong couple to fulfill your fantasy. They are out there, my wife and I for example but even though we're open to playing separately are we open to YOU playing with her or me separately? That's a different level of trust. Does it mean no? No. It means "maybe" in time it's a possibility. (I'm speaking hypothetically of course.) Don't worry your "couple" or "person" will come along. You might also try investigating a subsection of the lifestyle called "hotwifeing" while I know few swingers who are hardcore into only hotwifing, there are quite a few that tip toe in that part of the lifestyle (quick def, she plays he doesn't except with her.) That's the post play joy for you and the play and post play joy for her. Most people just bounce between that and swinging. There are people out there just be patient and don't expect it from any current playmates that you have established rules with, they need to progress at their own speed.

WHY DO WE GET STOOD UP? - - This behavior is merely the result of being "socially awkward" (i.e., the inability to act appropriately and say appropriate things in a given situation). Experienced, fuinctional swingers know how to meet socially in public and communicate whether or not they want to play. "Socially awkward" people have not developed the ability to do this and just rudely stand others up instead.

Alice in Naughtyland??? - Where's the party? - Oh and btw, HUGE swing party tonight at the Sheraton downtown. Word is there are BUSLOADS of swingers that are there (drive down 5th South if you don't believe me) and checked in already in anticipation for the big orgy later this evening. Be there or be square!

Featured Couple - - We agree that the featured Members seem to be a VERY SMALL SELECT FEW who cycle in and out. But we do also believe it\'s nice to see who is sincere in this lifestyle. Because we believ if your willing to have your face posted upon a SWINGER SITE that pretty much says you still believe in the TRADITIONAL BELIEFS of the swingers, it\'s all about fun and if someone contacts you UNLESS they are totally freaks your gonna meet them and try and establish a link between you and then F^&K each others brains out. OK SORRY we don\'t even believe that........................

adult theaters - - [quote=BITESIZE]It seems hard to believe because of how available it is on the internet, but it is illegal to make or distribute actual porn in Utah.[/quote] So could we open a virtual theater with 3 dimensional anime porn? Seriously there used to be a couple of theaters in downtown Salt Lake City. If I remember it correctly the way the law was written it was the projectionist was who got arrested if the porn crossed the established lines of decency written in the law. Misdemeanor charges. The projectionist would occasionally be arrested bailed out and a fine would be paid. They had a few projectionist that had records that were willing to do the job because they were paid wages that were like 5 times what a projectionist normally gets paid. In the end the investigators were able to discover that the owners of the theaters were using the income from the theaters to subsidize totally legitimate businesses they also owned which resulted in racketeering charges which are a felony and directed at the owners. That was the end of pornographic theaters in Salt Lake City. The internet probably would have put them all out of business anyway. It seems that I remember that there was also was a well known and very successful modeling and acting booking agency that also sometimes pimped out really stunningly attractive women and some men too to wealthy business people visiting Salt Lake City. This agency had a big legitimate book of business and just sort of disappeared over night due to racketeering charges involving money for sex being deposited into bank accounts of the agency. So maybe any money earned by anyone, event and party organizers included that can be tied to the lifestyle should be kept separate from any other business they might own just in case the ultra conservative side of our city ever decides to find some leverage to try and shut down swingers events. Anyone that has been an adult for over three decades living here can see that the culture that apposes the near theocracy that existed here for so long is much larger and has more influence and control than was the case not so long ago. Salt Lake is home to some of the most conservative minded and liberal minded people in the west when in comes to the subject of sex.

Just looking for other couples happy with super soft and no swap - There must be more of us out there? - This subject is whats making it hard for us real swingers to find real friends !!!! I dont think they are trying to be mean by saying face book is a good place for ya they are just being honest ...... But I hope u find what your looking for dont really see much fun in it though !!! But each there own ... Just sayin ... Thanx J

Swing Clubs in Las Vegas - - We are going to be in Vegas the middle of November for 5 days. Staying at the Hard Rock or Planet Hollywood, haven't decided yet. Are there swing clubs there that you would recommend? Also this is our first time in Vegas, what are the "must do's"? Not the boring stuff you would find on tripadvisor, but the fun stuff that swingers/nudists would do ;))) Thanks!!

Jazz Fest 2nd weekend - Anyone going to jazz fest this weekend? - Anyone going to Jazz fest in New Orleans this weekend, 5-1 to 5-3 ? Let us know if you go. A group of swingers from the Houston area will be there and we might want you to join us...[em]Emo_4[/em]

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