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If you accept a friend request... - Is sex required? - I think you're running into the age old conundrum in swinging that people already have plenty of friends and what they're looking for here are friends with benefits...or at very least friends with the possibility of more should the stars align perfectly.
Now if you don't ever intend for that to happen and are rigid in your stated preferences and don't believe in the old adage, "Never say never." then you shouldn't change your profile. There are, sadly, all too many profiles that don't cleariy spell things out and people feel deceived when ultimately they discover that you're just 'using' them for friendship. LOL If, however, you at some point in time decide that it wouldn't kill you to see your wife getting banged while you do the same to some other guy's wife maybe a rewrite is in order.
If that will NEVER happen don't feel bad. You aren't alone. People who USED to be swingers and for whatever reason stopped often find they very much miss the excitement of hanging around with people who are sexy, fun loving and a little bit wild. Unfortunately they often find the same problem. People have plenty of friends they CAN'T fuck and don't see much point in using Swingular as a vehicle for find more.
But don't despair, there are a few people out there who actually ARE looking for friendship first and sex, "If it happens."...or at least that's what a few say in their profile. We're actually one of those couples. We've told people many times that they don't have to fuck us to be our friends. And we mean it. So yeah, we're out there. We might be as rare as the elusive unicorn but we're out there.
ps- You could also consider becoming 'soft swap'. There are more than a few couples who only do that and have a great time without 'going all the way'. Just a thought.
Obama's Roadtrip - - [quote]Fair enough. Then why rely on them for anything that likely wasn't adequately studied?[/quote]
Likely just does not do it for me...When the numbers are given AND shown how they were gathered, I tend to believe they are fairly accurate.
[quote]Let's take your Pepsi/Coke example. There is likely nothing befuddling about your scenario. Just one possibility: Where are the two Florida products bottled? Maybe it's the water.[/quote]
Both bottled locally, it is chalked up to being a preferance thing. In WI, lived there for a while, it was called pop or soda, unless a VERY specific thing was needed, a Mountain Dew for instance. In the south, it is a Coke no matter what it is. If someone in the south offers a Coke, it could be Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Diet Rite, Sam's Club Soda, etc.
[quote]I'm glad you agree with the logic. My Bachelor's is in Social Welfare (Psych Minor). Human nature is only a bitch of a thing when you get out there a few standard deviations. The bulk of us are as predictable as rats.[/quote]
Believe it or not, I have 2 BA's (econ and int. rel.) with a minor in social work. So I am very aware of social science standards and SOME believe that we're predictable. If you have a smaller sample, we are fairly predictable, especially when the sample is taken from a specific group of people (swingers for instance, better yet, swingers in a specific region), once you get to the larger populations (nationwide for instance), human behavior is not easily quantified.
Try being the ONLY conservative in all the social work classes, it was fun!
Then again, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.
[quote]I propose that as an economist you are simply looking at things with a limited perspective. [/quote]
Possibly, but I also have a rare ability to look at it from an outsider's view....
[quote]There is simply no question that if a person's basic needs (food and shelter) are met, there is less motivation to risk the consequences of violating societal rules.[/quote]
I can see the logic of this, however, we are Americans, we always want MORE, we are constantly bombarded with images of MORE, we are constantly told that without MORE we are incomplete, etc.
What are the consequences of violating societal rules?
Food, shelter, clothing, TV, etc? Really tough there.
Look at prisons in Mexico, if your family does not provide, you starve, more than likely. THAT is consequences, it is a deterrant (sp?).
IMHO, one of the reasons for our increased crime rates is the lack of public punishment. If every time you turned around, you saw a group of people in black and white stripes mowing lawns, trimming trees, etc. on the side of the road in leg chains, it would cut crime considerably. If they did public executions, it would cut crime dramatically.
Then again, I am a staunch supporter of heavy penalties for crimes, especially when they are repeat offenders, most of the social scientists are not. They want more rehab and such, which I also support, BUT only for first timers, not for repeat offenders.
Anyway, I am thoroughly enjoying our debate...
Important Info regarding New Year Eve Fantasy Ball - Hosted by Secret Desires and Utah Uncensored - We have no issues with single males that are in the lifestyle. Most we have met are very courteous and kind. We do, however, have issues when a security gaurd/ bouncer which has been entrusted to maintain the security of the party says "hey, you want to go upstairs and check out the swingers?" to people that are not part of the group. We are not a Zoo exhibit to be gawked at.
I'll tell you what. IF you can guarantee that this will NOT be the case, then we will be there.
Don'tcha just love... - - [quote=EVILDOERS]...blind Friend Requests from people thousands of miles away who have NO pictures whatsoever on their profile? Too bad SW doesn't have an auto reply that commemorates yesterday's World Middle Finger Day.
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Oh and happy National Ice Cream Sandwich Day....and happy National Watermelon Day tomorrow...and happy National Mustard Day on Sat. Hope everyone has a wonderful holiday season...and gets laid....except for those who send blind friend requests. I hope they NEVER get laid.[/quote]
Well if you are blind, pictures, probably do not mean much to you anyway. I tried closing my eyes and reading your profile by touch and I sure could not tell where you live. Maybe visually impaired swingers get the city or state wrong just like I did. It felt to me like you live at Everest Base Camp. So maybe you should give people with a disability a break! I used to give a blind friend a ride to college as a freshman, well actually the community college. Blind horny, crazy Larry made request (to get laid) ten times as often as the rest of us sited guys and albeit he got rejected more often then we made request he also got laid more often than his sited buddies. So if success means having sex Crazy blind Larry was more successful getting laid as a freshman than most. So I say if it is not broken why fix it.
is it true about swingular??????????????????? - - lol, don't you just love rumors. That is completely untrue. In fact, it's just the opposite. Swingular is growing bigger and faster. First, the redesign of the site is going to be a huge milestone for us. We are getting closer and closer to the beta launch. Second, we are going city to city to market Swingular locally and expand in every market from small to big. As of right now, we are getting hundreds of sign ups a day. We are listed in the top 10 search results for most all keywords related to swingers and at least in the top 3 for about 5 of them. We have ads in and sponsor events such as SwingFest to help market ourselves worldwide and we are promoting parties across the U.S. We aren't going anywhere, we're here to stay!
Travel and first time - - I completely understand how she feels. And just for what it's worth, you two are at an age where a lot of couples head for divorce court anyway. There's no sense in driving in that direction if you don't have to. So, in my opinion, if you communicate really well, and are just looking for a little bedroom spice once in a while, going where you're unlikely to build a relationship isn't a bad idea. There are bunches of swinger sites all over the country. I'd suggest looking up a few swingers clubs in the area you want to visit and ask them what the predominant swing sites are in their area.
Once you get comfortable with the lifestyle, and feel like the risk is less, doing it closer to home is fun, and more convenient.
Thailand swingers - Any suggestions for swinging in Thailand - Try joining an international site such as AFF (yea, they are disgusting but they have broad geographic reach). Good luck.
I Sense A Disturbance In The Force - You know it when it happens - You are walking around a mall, store, or sitting in a restaurant when you sense a disturbance in the force. You feel it in your belly. You know it just happened. You look over at another single or couple and you get that feel. It is not just that you are attracted to them, you KNOW they are Swingers.
Ever happen to you?
Vegas JP/TSC National Swingers Convention - August 5-9-, 2009 - I'm not advertising for them, just curious if anyone from Utah is going. http://www.jpjustparties.org/
Would love to go if any lovely ladies need a partner....
weekly parties to help the community (TAMPA) - - Hi,
We are trying something new, we will be hosting a swingers party this week, We will be holding our parties in the middle of the week, so now there is something to do all week long. Another thing that makes our parties different is the donations, we ask for a 30 dollar donation. This money goes to help needy people across the bay area, alot of families are without electric due to tecos high rate increases, we are trying to help these families get turned back on!!!! What better way to do this?? A great party, and helping people at the same time. All are welcome, sibngles, couples, doesnt matter. There will be some gangbang girls around, fetish seekers and lots of sexual people. We are going to hold these parties every wednsday night. We need the following help:
Places to host the parties, hotels are small and congested, we will use the sailports for now, as they have private balconies, bedroom and a living room. They also have a full kitchen in each room.
Gangbang girls- we need girls who love gangbangs, we can get a lot of support for our cause from the gangbang community
And mostly, we need you, come on out have a great time and help yopur community, as well. All parties are BYOB. We hope to see you all soon, if interested in attending, please email us here or at firstname.lastname@example.org, we will be putting an informational page on our website soon. www.xwaveproductions.com . Thanks to all and we hope to see alot of you tommorow night for our first event.
Gene and Karen
we are going to try and put together a small gangbang party tonight!!!!! anyone interested please contact us before 8pm.