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Equal Treatmeat for all singles - singles - There are a lot of good points that have been made but the reality of it is this, whether you want to believe it or not. Swingers are in this lifestyle for the fun. The majority of swingers are couples and some would even argue that you have to be a couple to be considered a swinger but that's another topic. Swingers are here to connect with others whether for sex or friendship. If it is for sex, it is for the fun of sex to enjoy with other like minded people. Some choose to have this sex with other couples, some choose to have this sex with single males or single females. We all have the right to choose. If we choose not to have sex with single males, it doesn't mean we have some sort of trust or self-confidence issues, it just means it's not what we want to do. Same with couples or single females.
Yes, single men are a dime a dozen and that is where the problem lies. There are thousands and thousands of single men who enter this lifestyle and most of them do it because of the sex. They have no understanding of or respect for the lifestyle and so their actions give the ones who do a bad name. So with that said, let's say the percentage of bad single men compared to non is 95%.
Now, that doesn't mean there are some bad single women or bad couples. But let's put this into perspective. The number of single women in this lifestyle is a very, very small percentage. Yet, let's say the percent of bad single women compared to non is only 5%. And couples, well, they are already a couple with both a guy and a girl and they are already given a free pass into the lifestyle because, well, they are a couple so we'll leave them out of this equation.
So now you have two different seals. The Real Seal and the VIP Seal. They both serve a similar purpose; to show that you have somehow proven that you are a real person or couple. The difference is that the VIP which stands for Validated In Person can only be given out by an admin or local host. And the person holding the VIP is the only person other than an admin or local host that can issue a REAL seal. Make sense?
Now, as a single male in that 95%, what do you care most about? Probably getting laid and seeing as many pictures as you can. After trying unsuccessfully to get people to send you pictures or give you access to their private photo albums, you decide to create a fake profile as a single female or couple. What are your chances of creating that profile and getting someone to show you their private collection? Better, but not by much because a lot of couples will not show them to you unless you have a REAL or VIP seal. So it deters them from becoming picture collectors.
But wait, if that single male was able to somehow get a VIP seal on his single male profile, he could now validate his own fake profile as REAL and raise his chances of seeing more private albums and faking his way on this site.
Now you tell me who is more likely going to fake a profile. A couple? A single female? or a single male? I'll tell you who, it's not going to be a couple or a single female because that is what most people are looking for so why would they need to? It's a sad reality but it's reality.
And that is why we have the seals in the first place, otherwise, why would we need them?
Now for parties and such, the reason why single females are mostly allowed and single men are not is for similar reasons as mentioned earlier. You have more single guys interested in this lifestyle than single women and it's more likely you would have 100 single men at a party and only a handful of women. As a couple, especially a new couple, that's pretty intimidating and out of those 100 single men, if 95% of them had no respect for the lifestyle, what are the chances that something bad could happen? Even if it was only 20%, the chances of some single male ruining it for the rest is pretty high? Get my point? So that is why you rarely see parties that allow single men. And it really sucks for those singles who are gentlemen. Again, it's a sad reality but it's reality.
For all you single men out there who are in this lifestyle for the right reasons, keep doing what you are doing and someone will notice you. There are plenty of people looking for single men but you have to make yourself stand out from the crowd. Be patient and don't try too hard and eventually it will come to you.
I hope this sheds a little light on this subject. These percentages may not be exact but it's a close scenario. I've been in this lifestyle for a very long time and some of that was as a single male so I know both sides. It's not being discriminatory, it's what has to be done to protect the main people in this lifestyle and that's the couple. Unfortunately, because of that, the single male gets the short end of the stick. But it has to happen, otherwise you would scare off the majority of couples interested in this lifestyle and without them, you have no one to meet in the first place. You might as well just post an ad on a regular dating site if that was the case.
Any Suggestions for Tampa Bay? - - There is a Trapeze swingers club in Tampa I believe.
Going out on a limb... - - i have been a member for over 2 years now and i do have to be honest and i have not met anyone off of this site yet. i have tried a few times but they were not interested which is fine by me. but i do have alot of fun on this site reading posts and going into the chat room. and i figure one day i will find that right single or couple and we'll have fun. but this site is not just about finding someone to meet. i find this website fun to chat and learn about other swingers likes and dislikes. but you do have one thing going for you.....you do live in utah.....LOL. well i'm not sure what exactly your looking for but i have heard of other singles on this web site meeting with couples. but again it's up to you. well good luck with this site.
Those damn single men! - Where do they fit in this lifestyle? - AKLIM...In response to your question: WHat can a single bring to the table that a couple cannot?
1.) TOTAL attention...When you have a couple, he or she will always be aware of their spouse or spousal equivalent...Thus NOT giving 100% of their attention.
2.) NO ONE has to sit out...Earlier you stated that you would not want to watch someone do your wife, as it would bore you. Do you watch porn? Ahhhh...Live porn...What could be better? If someone in a couple takes a break to get a drink, have a smoke, go to the restroom...whatever they do on their break, they come back and watch 2 people with someone, don't you think they would be just as bored as you are? Don't you think you or your wife are worthy of more attention from a triad situation than a few minutes while someone takes a break?
3.) (Directed at Mr. AKLIM) Are you telling me if a single woman wrote you, you would not want to meet? Come on...EVERY man in America would like 2 women at the same time...it is the most common fantasy!
4.) What's wrong with Mr or Mrs. having a little fun on the side while someone IS out of town? NOTHING...
Not to say you should adhere to our rules or anything...Just making a statement that answers your question...
NOW...On to another thing...IN OUR EXPERIENCE ONLY!!!!!!!!
Single males are indeed unreliable...so much so that on another site, we actually put on our profile the names of those who do not show or call to cancel a meeting! But then again...We have had more "meetings" with single males...BUT MANY couples do the same...We feel that there are FAR to many "fantasy swingers" in the lifestyle...In other words, those who THINK it would be cool, but when it came to "shit or get off the pot" they won't...thus they do not show...Another posibility is the old fashioned, "I can get my wife to go to this meeting, then I can convince her to swing!" action...NO single man will pull that one...And how many of us have NOT experienced that one? I am almost willing to bet that those who have the "The ladies talk on the phone" rule HAVE experienced it, and want to avoid it in the future...Now...I see a TON of people saying single men are "gropers" and hangers oners and other things...OUR experience is just the opposite...THE MARRIED men are doing that...SO many times we have seen single men yelled at for WALKING by a couple...NO, NOT talking, touching, rubbing, making tongue actions at the lady, no winking, NOTHING but walking by...YET, a man who has a lady by his side can come over and stick his hand in her skirt or down her blouse...and that is cool...Why? Because he is married or something? Makes no sense to us...ANYONE does something like that unapproved and they should be tossed, but because SO many people have HEARD of bad experiences with single men...NOT actually experienced them themselves, they assume it is the way it is. How many profiles have you seen where someone says we are newbies, then says NO SINGLE MEN like 15 times? Where did they get that? They have not met anyone, they have not been to a club, they are new...Probably from someone else's profile...THEN there are those who say< "Searching for: Single Men, Single Women, Couples" but later in the profile, the last sentence is "No single men" or something like that...You have MANY people in the forums saying they only play with couples, but their profile says differently...And then they want to come in her and bitch that a single man wrote them! WTF??? The single men are DOING what you say...and still get bitched at....
Let this post die....To the single men...Welcome to the whipping post...Enjoy...
Destiny's July 15th Basement Party - On-premise swingers basement parties at Destiny's Basement - Destiny's July 15th Basement Party in Maryville, Tennessee
Where: 1028 Williamson Chapel Road, Maryville Tenn., 37801
(you're welcome to google it)
When: Saturday night, July 15th
8pm until ?
Info: BYOB, On-premise with no pressures. Playing by invitation only, voyeours welcome too.
web-site info: http://www.webspawner.com/users/destinyssocial/index.html
Meet some great, laid back couples and single guests. See you Saturday night. Feel free to e-mail me or call for more information.
Take Care, Play Safe, and Enjoy Life. Your friend and hostess, Tammy
habits tonight????? - Come on people let's go - Habits is a nightclub on 39 S. Salt Lake favorite hang out for swingers but it's hot in on Saturday night
SLC couple looking for single female - Husband and I want a threesome with unicorn - [quote=SIMONEMARKS]Sadly, it is difficult to find couples who share specific desires and limits. I am actually surprised at how few couples there are that just want the ladies to play while the men play with their partner only. It seems for the majority that full swap is the only way to enjoy the swing lifestyle.
I'm also a little disheartened at Evils response that makes it sound like you have to change your true interests and limits in order to really have fun.
Downtown's suggestion of finding a partner with a hall pass is good. I wonder how many hot-wifes out there want to play the unicorn.
You absolutely do not "have to change your true interests and limits in order to really have fun" but this is a swinger's site and you could reasonably expect that most people here are probably going to be swingers and into swapping partners.
The good news is that there are PLENTY of other sites out there where you might be able to find people more in line with what you're looking for. In addition to more general adult sites like AFF and the adult personals on Craigslist are sites that specifically cater to the so-called "hotwife lifestyle" (although most hotwifers we've met are more into the wife playing solo with other males rather than couples). And don't forget sites like Ashley Madison.
So by all means try to find what you're looking for on a swinger's site if that's what blows your skirt up but don't be terribly shocked if you have a bit of trouble finding people who want to play in the rather small corner of swinging that you want to play in. It's kind of like joining a touring motorcycle club and being upset that nobody else there seems to be very interested in vintage Italian scooters.
PornHub responds to Utah's porn crisis! - With data! - This data is always off...how many other places can you get porn? It's not as prevalent here as it is in other states so of course our internet subscriptions are off the charts...but that's me and I don't pay for porn...that's why we are swingers durr! Hehe!
Is it just us, or do you see it too? - - When we started down this road almost a year ago, we were quite worried. As we walked up to the restaurant to meet that very first couple, our hearts pounded as we wondered if we might be making the biggest mistake of our lives. We worried that perhaps "swingers" might amount to nothing more than a motley collection of pervs and freaks. The excitement of possibilities kept us going though, and we're so glad now that it did.
We have met some of you, and although we find you all to be quite diverse, we seem to notice a running pattern of traits that most (perhaps all) of you hold in common. Although the sexual chemistry may or may not have been there for all four of us at the time, every one of you that we have met has seemed well above average to us, on a number of levels. Almost invariably, we walk away from meeting you holding you in high esteem.
Self-confidence is a good illustration of our point. Most swingers seem self assured to a degree that other people often lack. There are many other such traits that we have noticed in swingers. Don't get us wrong. We know you have your flaws too, but we're painting with a broad brush here.
So our question is simply this; Is it just us? Are we imagining this about all of you? Are we wrong and you're all really just schmucks, or, is it possible that swinging (speaking generally) attracts a different sort of person?
We can hear what some of you are thinking right now, so let us state that we are just swingers like you. We conduct no research for anyone anywhere. We are simply surprised by what we think we've found.
Therefore, after meeting so many who seem to be such extraordinary people, our curiosity is killing us. We no longer think that we are just, by pure coincidence, happening upon "all the good ones". Either you are generally who we perceive you to be, or we're just perceiving this whole thing incorrectly.
We want to know if it's just us, or do you also see a pattern of traits among the swinging population (besides sex) that seem common to them?
Can't wait to hear what you have to say about this.
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - I love my mustang!