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Wow ....check this out... - - I agree with HUNNY_BUNNY in some respects. Depending on the comments made earlier, it would be hypocritical to allow some comments and not others. BUT This is a swingers site. Political narrow mindedness shouldn't be thrown around here. I am a moderate and although I don't like everything George W says or does, I dislike the way the Democratic party has handled their grievences even more. They keep giving the enemy political and moral victories left and right every time they say some poorly worded crap about the war. This is all just pay back for the witch hunt the Republicans gave Clinton. I think both sides need to grow up and quit acting like children and come to a common ground. While we are still above ground and not 6 feet under. So lets drop all the politics, and get back to what this site is about.

1688 - Really? - I think that people have lives. When you look at how most swingers are 35-55 that's right in the middle of work, family, kids, all of the darn sports the kids play. Add in that parents are getting older and may need help to get to doctor's appointments or there is maintenance to do around the house and there is barely enough time to have sex with each other, much less another couple. So I think for a lot of people it's just last in the priority queue. I wouldn't put any blame on yourself or your profile. People are busy, but that's just my $0.02.

This is not another single male thread! - - orgy's good........jealous swingers suck....

Secret facebook group for SLC? - - I actually started one: Northern Utah / Southwest Wyoming Swingers It isn't jumping yet, but would like to see more people added. Search for Nathan H., I live in Mtn View. I posted this in case you are interested in joining. I figured that if we were able to get a group going we could communicate in ways other than on here. The choice is yours, there is no pressure

thursday night people - - Port-O-Call? Didn't know there were any other swingers there but us! :-D Night of the week doesn't matter that much except for work the next day. Aaaagh. We have teenagers, so built-in babysitters.

Amusing Story about bad planning - Notice nobody asked the swinger\'s opinions - Let\'s see, 13 and younger wandering the hotel on New Years Eve un escorted by parents. Where were the parents and why were they not doing a better job of keeping track of the kids? There are far scarier things in hotels late at night than swingers. Recently, right here in Orlando a pedifile was arrested after attacking a teen age girl.

jelousy - how do you handle it - I agree that there should be a discussion espcially if rules or boundries were broken. I see nothing wrong with asking advice from SWINGERS on SWINGING thats what a lot of these forums are about i mean who else are you going to get advice from ,i doubt if your local clergy could help much in this situation. House parties are by there very nature a bit wilder because they are usually smaller more intimate settings but you should know and respect each others rules before you go to a party. open honest communication before during and after is the key even if it means you have to stop the action to make sure you are both on the same page. dont attend another party without communicating to make sure your boundries are set and agreed to.with communication as a top priority you should be able to not only enjoy parties more but actually grow stronger as a couple

How do you ask if that hot couple are swingers ? - - As I was reading thru this thread Someone mentioned a hot tub... Maybe that would be a good way to get the question answered... If one had a hot tub invite them over for a soak, clothing optional. Maybe if you don't have a hot tub.... talking about getting one that can be shared by close friends....This could be a great discussion and why not bring up the idea of clothing optional at the same time....while everyone is thinking. How about a lingerie party with them and some swinger friends.... Let the friends run interference... that way you don't have to worry about you offending them...BTW this would be a party for couples...not just the ladies... and the ladies could model the goods. Another thought .... Adam & Eve as well as other companies now have toy parties...Maybe you and a friend could hold one for couples and you take the neighbors if they'd like to go... Just a few ideas to chew on....

Couples oasis or Red Roister - Which do you prefer - "...in advanced stages of their lives or have been ridden way too hard and put away wet on far too many occasions." You say that like it's a bad thing! All I know is that the last time we were at the Red Rooster (admittedly probably 10 years ago) we saw THE largest couple we've ever seen in a swing club (or possibly anywhere else!). By the time they got up the stairs (single file as the stairway is NOT ADA compliant) they were sweating SO hard and were SO out of breath that we made a break for it before they got their second wind and took their clothes off. But you know what, good for them for being comfortable in their own...uh, skin and wanting to get their freak on in front of a small group of geriatric swingers. We did, out of morbid curiosity, scan the obituaries the next day because if someone there that night didn't have a coronary event then surely someone was crushed to death. And yes I'm a BAD person for saying that even if it's due to imbibing a WHOLE Redd's Wicked Apple Ale all by myself, on an empty stomach. Yeah, you heard it here first. The 'Doers KNOW how to party on a Saturday night! [em]Emo_57[/em]

To cover up or not to cover up - Slut shaming and the lifesyle - Sadly there are many entirely false stereotypes about swingers that non swingers and/or newbies to the lifestyle believe. Probably the most predominant one is that someone who is a swinger (especially a woman) is more or less DTF anyone, any time, anywhere. We used to try to educate those who thought this way but often they don't want to believe the truth because it destroys their fantasy about swinging. Now we just avoid those individuals because more often than not they are the very same individuals who don't understand or listen when someone says, "No."

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