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Anyone going to San Francisco? - - On a related, but different topic, I hear there are some great swingers clubs in SF! We've not yet been. Any personal experiences??
Single females profile... "but not" - - At the risk of taking this even further off topic...I look at honesty the same way I look at sin (not that I believe in the concept of sin). Observing and talking to my neighbors I've discovered that the majority have little "pet" sins that they unilaterally seem to deem more important to avoid than other sins. Some of my neighbors would never consider shopping on Sunday but don't have a problem working in their yards in rather skimpy (for them) attire during the summer. Others seem adamant that church attendance is more than mandatory but have no problem hitting Chuck A Rama after church. Still others are devout temple goers yet have confided that they have a single glass of champagne on New Years Eve. Honesty, to me, appears very similar. I know many swingers who are less than honest about their weight and/or age yet really seem to get upset if someone is less than honest about their relationship status. Still others state they are disease and drug free and demand the same in others yet I've seen them with cold sores (yup that's HSV people) and regularly partake in pot or use illegally obtained erection enhancing drugs. Honesty, like many things in life, is apparently quite flexible and indeed seems to be a matter of perspective.
ps- Not bashing, insinuating or otherwise making any kind of judgment about the OP's or anyone else in this thread. Just some general observations.
Why is it so hard to meet people on here - - Lots of good feedback in the posts above. I would add that possibly it might be your expectations and maybe the way you present them. Yes swinging is fantasy but fantasy often isn't reality. Since you live in an (relatively) outlying area and can't/won't travel to the areas with a higher concentration of swingers and events then you should probably lower your expectations and/or requirements a little bit. I'm not saying to just bang a bunch of fugly peeps but I know a LOT of people whose expectations far exceed what they can realistically expect to find in a relatively small pool of people. The other thing I would add (not saying this is you guys) is that many peeps consciously or subconsciously look for reasons NOT to hook up. This person is a little too fat. Or too old. Or not quite cute enough. Or I really want a redhead. A million different reasons we've heard over the years. You should definitely look for what you want in play partners but if your requirements are too narrow it's much harder to find people to play with. Maybe as you screen people look for things you DO like about them rather than things you don't. If all else fails, hire a sitter and go to Ogden or Salt Lake to some meet and greets. That's probably the easiest, fastest way to meet a lot more people and hopefully connect with the type of people you're looking for. Hope this helps.
ogden meet and great - - It seems having it in a "closed off" area just invites scrutiny. Look at habits, its not private but they had meet and greets there for years. You can have one at any bar, just a group of friends out for the evening and then if you do run into someone and they say "there are swingers here..." you just go really? where? lol
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - I love my mustang!
Bob's Burgers... - ....Lifestyle Friendly? :P - Anyone watch Bob's Burgers? I'm in love with that show (and just about any other show its creators come up with) and find it absolutely great that they have episodes about swinging. I forget the context of the first one, but Bob and his wife were at a party and were propositioned by another couple. Last Sunday as all about Bob's in-laws who live in a retirement villa place in FL but are going to be kicked out because its for swingers only and they hadn't participated. Anywho... just had to mention it. Love that show!
are there not any ladies who just gotta have fun in the day ??? - good times ??? - [quote=HELLO_KITTY12984]Well the title of your post says "any ladies" so I'm going to assume you're talking about single females. They're called unicorns for a reason. And as a general rule... you're not going to find them here on a swinger site. You gotta look elsewhere. As for couples... its more of a matter of patience and being in the right spot at the right time. The fun exists. You just gotta find the right match for you.
And if you read the forums regularly... seems like there's a lot of openness... just not necessarily around here. ;)[/quote]
The baton, gets passed on every generation, and I am confident the runners just now taking the baton and those waiting for their turn are better prepared and certainly have more access to the tools necessary to make things better, more open, etc., etc., and to pick up the pace. I am talking about society as a whole, and swinging and swingers is part of the whole.
CPLINTOOELE, you are talking day time play, it appears, and that eliminates quite a few during the work week. I have come to the conclusion that the number one barrier for hooking up, for most of us is time, because we are all so damned busy, and the number two obstacle is a place. If you make it plain you have a place, if that be the case, then it will be more likely you will grab the attention of a lady that has the time and that can play on your schedule.
UNDERSTANDING - Needing some understanding - Well, looking at the definition on Wikipedia Swinging is defined as: \"a wide range of sexual activities conducted between three or more people\".
There is nothing inherently straight about the swing lifestyle. I noticed in your profile that the two of you (Poet and Dawn) go to great lengths to point out that you are straight. I think that it is wonderful that the two of you are so comfortable with your sexuality but think it has been taken a bit far by your numerous mentions on your pics and this post. Those of us who are straight can not entirely understand the feelings of those who are bi and vice versa. You should simply understand and congratulate those people who are liberated enough to act on their feelings and live the lifestyle as they see fit.
Nobody is asking either of you to do anything that you dont want to do. And simply listing the both of you as straight in your profile should be sufficient. It would be entirely inappropriate for anyone attempt to cross the straight boundry that you have clearly indicated in your profile. A wise policy would be to not question or frown upon the feelings or practices of others. We, as swingers, are in the business of breaking boundaries and accepting practices that the general public would distance from.
How many? - - Well, Me the Mr. would have been dead before 25. Back in the good old days anything that could be caught was easily cured with an antibiotic or at least so we thought. So from the time we crazy kids were in our late teens it was not uncommon to have sex with 7 or 8 different people in a year as part of dating. Most of us were probably just lucky. Never became a baby daddy thanks to birth control and I never contracted anything. So I would have been dead a long time ago. At 26 I got married and we have been together over 30 years. Mrs. Delicious was a sexy 5'11" 19 year old goddess and a virgin with a smoking hot 36D-23-36 build with deep blue eyes and a smile and voice of a siren. She is still smoking hot in her older version of herself. We were both a bit more conservative because I had gone so far off in the outskirts of normal in my youth and as a musician that I had bounced back the other direction and she was from a conservative background. We raised a family and did all the things parents should do to enrich their children's educational experience and to promote growth etc., so we really would not have the time or the place to do much swinging. After 23 or 24 years of monogamy, which we do not regret and enjoyed, and with the kids all either adults or almost adults we decided to attend a few swingers meet and greets and one thing leads to another and so now after a some years of swinging I would be dead again after my resurrection from monogamy and Mrs. Delicious would be dead as well and frankly more dead than me. She has been adept at playing catch up ball or should I say catch up balling and being bisexual has a more diverse rage of sexual experiences than her husband. I would be dead from the female sexual experience whereas she would be dead from the male sexual experience and really, really drunk if not dead from the female sexual experience too.
Friends with Benefits - Have you had a FWB? - Yes, and it usually only sounds good in theory. Atleast in my experience. It takes a somewhat rare girl to not eventually start really liking you and then really not liking the idea of you on the open market and not willing to share her growing feelings. But hey your on a swingers sight so you probably have a better then avarage shot at finding that girl.