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Alex - New to the lifestyle looking for my first encounter into couples and single females - "I just don’t understand how single guys can be swingers" Like this, DUH! ;-p
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Letting them down softly???? - Give us advice? - No matter how "easy" you try to make it, some people, unfortunately, will never LET you make it easy. Let's face it, rejection sucks and some people just don't take it well...if at all! We've tried every imaginable way to let people down easy and trust me, there is no magic bullet that works for everyone. If there was we totally would have patented it, made a fortune selling "Swinging For Dummies" books and would be living on a tropical island surrounded only by hot sexy swingers that we find spectacularly attractive. [em]Emo_84[/em]
New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - My husband already posted on this topic a while back, but I’m now adding my opinion.
In addition to state law hurdles and liquor licensing nightmare laws, each city has difficult sexually oriented business licensing requirements and ordinances. Yes, a nieve person will think that a swingers club is not a sexually oriented business, but city leaders and members of the public will make a big push to ensure a swingers club fits within the ordinance definitions. The licensing process is very public and anyone involved in the licensing will have a lot of exposure. Licensing applications often require background checks, names, business site visits and walkthroughs, and ongoing mandatory surveys after the business opens. Publicity and continued legal battles with the state and city scare couples away.
Research Plato’s a Short-lived swingers club in NYC that was briefly open. During its existence it was continually challenged, closed, reopened, raided, and ultimately put out of business. If NYC ensures Plato's went out of business how is a swingers club in Utah going to fare?
This is a link to SLC’s Sexually Orented Businesses overview page that has links to the ordinance. Most other cities have some type of ordinance like this. http://www.slcgov.com/business-licensing/sob
Keep having house parties. . . .
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=NAUGHTYGIRL101]This is one aspect that is easier to fulfill if you allow single males....i had 5 for my birthday party and omg they drained me dry! Can't wait for another "surprise birthday party" wink wink ;)[/quote]
nice! I want to be drained dry!
What really defines a TRUE swinger? - - We don't think single males OR females are swingers... if they are considered "swingers", then EVERY single person on this planet is a swinger. ;)
Swingers Party - Doesnt mean who ever is there is open to everyone elsa - first and foremost, boundaries must always be respected and no one ever has the right to do things to another person without their permission.
however, i also acknowledge that at a party where the intention/perception that playing will or is occurring can create some areas of "unknown". it is important to find out what is ok and when it is ok. for some, that means french kissing within the first few minutes, others may not. i have seen different ways that people have tried to find out. the simplest and most direct is to ask. however, i have seen people do so by "testing the waters" - small hug, then a bigger one, then a peck, then a lingering kiss, then french kiss, etc. and at each step trying to "read" the body language of the other.
and i have seen that some people have become so "desensitized" to some of these things that their starting point is further on the scale than others. i dont have a problem with someone trying to open-mouth kiss my wife (even if they have only met for 2 minutes - which she has done with some guys and girls that she was immediately attracted to). i have a problem if they try, she tells them "no", and then they try again. but we go to these parties with the mindset that if there is a mutual interest of the involved parties, then sex is a likely outcome for the evening (unless the party is a "meet-n-greet"). and for us, open-mouth kisses are part of foreplay with our partners. we have even had some parties that we have just "made-out" with some without engaging in sex.
ultimately, it is important to find the common ground of what is acceptable for those involved and being respectful of that. it is also important to politely inform someone when they have crossed a boundary. it is unfair of us to expect that others implicitly know all of our boundaries.
Where are all the MEN - looking for men that arent afraid of furthering the aspect of sex - Where are all the couples with men that are looking to further SEX. Most women would agree that they would love to give a man the sensations that they (if they do) enjoy of anal sex and dont be fooled women all know that the male prostate is basically the same as a womans G-spot and you know how they are about that lil goody HIT IT RUB IT ABBBBUUUSE IT PLEEAAASE!. I do not believe that women enjoy watching men kiss however. You want your lady friend to enjoy anal dont you. And if she does I am sure that she would want to give you the same pleasure. If nothing else I am sure it is one of her dirty lil fantasies. Women have more and dirtier fantasies than we have ever tried to cum up with guys.
I was told about 9 yrs ago by a regular swinger in the lifestyle for yrs. that all swingers are bisexual. Which made sense, swingers are people that enjoy the fullness of sex and wants to share the diversity of it with others. So where are all the men that are comfortable enough with their sexuality to at least be interested in what women are enjoying about sex.
We cannot be the only couple in SE Mi that feel this way. Do we need to move to UT there seems to be lots of nice profiles there! Congratulations Utah!
whatkind of pron is most people interested in? - Speak your mind... - His preference, amatuer/group you know swingers lol.
Hers Girl/Girl and lots of toys.
Where's the best Vegas swinger club - - [quote=BUTTABING]We have always had a great time at Couples Oasis. Went to The Rooster once, had a great time but there were a lot of single guys.[/quote]WE actually had made plans to go there, once..and then didn't get the weekend away...:( Closest we ever came to going to a swingers club. LOL
Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - We dedicate this to men & women out there that are sacrificing and have sacrificed their lives to the U.S.A. and her citizens, for without those sacrifices, we wouldn't be relishing in the lifestyle. So as soldiers ourselves, we salute you highspeed sons of bitches out there who make this all possible. HOOAH!
Sincerely,
Don & Tami
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