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VALIDATION - - yes definately when it comes to a site like this where there are so many phonies. well maybe some aren't phony, but not swingers either, and some are here just to watch lol

Single Men Meeting Couples - Are Single Men Treated Un Fairly In The Lifestyle - In an earlier response someone wrote: ______________________________________________________________________________ *** Short & Sweet: In our opinion, we don't view single men in the swinging lifestyle as swingers - more like single men wanting to have easy sex (most of them anyway) with someone else's wife. They bring nothing to the "table" that another man "within a couple" could bring. *** ______________________________________________________________________________ What anyone brings to the table in the lifestlye is highly subjective; it would greatly depend on what you were looking for in the first place wouldnt it? While we have met quite a few single men who were lying assholes, we have also met as many who were complete gentleman who earned our respect and trust. As for having "easy" sex with someone else's wife...well, it shouldnt be all that easy should it? That is, unless we as couples are as indiscriminate as the single men are about with whom we have sexual relations. What is the proverbial "table" anyway? What you bring to the "table" is YOU, or yourselves if you are a couple. What you have to offer can only be valued by those who would recognize and appreciate your contribution. It isn't a swap meet. (My wife for your wife.) That is a classic misconception about who we are and what we do as lifestylers. During the "key " parties of the 70's this was the general attitude, but those days are gone. We are a much more sophisticated breed now, who have exprienced a sexual evolution unlike anything our parents could have imagined, thanks to the addition of the internet and sites like this one. There are GAY swinging couples comprised of 2 MEN. We have no desire to date them, but we do not disagree with their right to participate....Are they swingers? Absolutely! Why not? They seek what we do for all of the same reasons. Who are we to determine their place, or value in the lifestyle? A lot of couples take a very narrow view on this subject, which to me is very sad. I am here to tell you that the word "swinger" is absolutely NOT synonymous with the phrase "wife swapper". That archaic, stupid phrase only hurts us as lifestylers, and is not truly representative of who we are, and what we do. "Threesome" does not ONLY imply 2 women and a man. We come in all flavors, with varying desires and fantasies to fullfill. Many times (and we have seen this too many times to count in the last 13 years swinging) it is the MAN of the COUPLE who is too insecure to allow HIS wife to be with another man, 3some or couple! So they only date single women... or attempt to atleast. LoL. I am not saying that this is true for everyone. But I have seen it too many times to count. The hypocrisy is staggering. Everyone makes choices, and we are all free to make them. We do not judge those who choose to only date couples. YES, there are single male assholes in the world. The fact that they are single does NOT make them a health risk. Swinging COUPLES have far more sex than ANY of the single men I know! Most of the COUPLES we know have done things in the clubs that these poor guys can only jerk off too in their dreams, with far far more regularity. A well dressed, well mannered, MATURE, professional male who is not cheating on his spouse, looking to attempt cause trouble in someone's marriage, and wants to have a great time with an honest couple is out there. We have met scores of them! Police officers, doctors, lawyers, business professionals....you cant sell me that they are all midnight "corner store" Johns looking for a cheap sexual fix with any pussy that comes along. Geesh, guys have standards too. I have FAR MORE sex than ANY single man I know! And so do the rest of you couples! Unless ofcourse they are college kids, and then....come on! What wild and crazy college aged 22 year old man ISNT looking for pussy in bars and strip clubs? Is THAT who you would swing with anyway? If there were as many single women swinging as single men, there would be quite a few single WOMEN assholes out there too. We live right next to The University of Maryland, so I employ some of the biggest hookers I have seen anywhere, anytime. I say, pick through the weeds, be selective about with whom you have sex (shouldn't we anyway?), and let the chips fall where they may. Thats what the lifestyle is all about. Just my $1.25... Luvbugs! (mR.) ;)

Gloryhole - Any glory holes in northern utah? - So from what I've gathered, Habits is a common place for swingers. My girl and I are new to the life style and it seems our schedules never match up with the meet and greats. It is good to know there is a place we can go to when we are free to meet similar people.

How is it to be in the lifestyle and have small kids. - We are new to the lifestyle. - well we have been in this life style for 4 years now and hav many friends that are swingers tht we dont play with . and they know our kids after we was sure it would been a very safe thing to do. and everybody gets along great . but our kids dont know of our life style . but when they get od enough to know and ask we will tell em the trueth . we have even had a cpl come in from another state one time aand they brought there kids but agian it was a friendship thing and no sex was involved. we dont make a habbit of doing that . if we havent known a cpl for awhile we dont . we even had a falling out with a cpl .but when we see them we still talk to them. we really feel the best meeting for the first timein town ,out to eat . or something like that. and for the new folks trying out this lifestyle is dont be surprsed if all 4 dont click. that is alot harder then you think.like we said we have been in this for 4 years and you would think dang 4 years i bet they have been with lots of cpls. well no 1 full 1mmf and 1 ffm so dont get your hopes up . if it happens it happens carl and hollyh

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College Students - Adults going to school - Going to Slcc and having a great time. just curious if others here are going to school or going back to school, lets meet up for lunch or coffee, why cant swingers go to school....let me know

weekly parties to help the community (TAMPA) - - Hi, We are trying something new, we will be hosting a swingers party this week, We will be holding our parties in the middle of the week, so now there is something to do all week long. Another thing that makes our parties different is the donations, we ask for a 30 dollar donation. This money goes to help needy people across the bay area, alot of families are without electric due to tecos high rate increases, we are trying to help these families get turned back on!!!! What better way to do this?? A great party, and helping people at the same time. All are welcome, sibngles, couples, doesnt matter. There will be some gangbang girls around, fetish seekers and lots of sexual people. We are going to hold these parties every wednsday night. We need the following help: Places to host the parties, hotels are small and congested, we will use the sailports for now, as they have private balconies, bedroom and a living room. They also have a full kitchen in each room. Gangbang girls- we need girls who love gangbangs, we can get a lot of support for our cause from the gangbang community And mostly, we need you, come on out have a great time and help yopur community, as well. All parties are BYOB. We hope to see you all soon, if interested in attending, please email us here or at [email protected], we will be putting an informational page on our website soon. www.xwaveproductions.com . Thanks to all and we hope to see alot of you tommorow night for our first event. Gene and Karen P.S. we are going to try and put together a small gangbang party tonight!!!!! anyone interested please contact us before 8pm.

To cover up or not to cover up - Slut shaming and the lifesyle - The two of us are both sexual by nature. Repressing our sexuality, to conform to conservative standards never felt quite right. Human sexual desire, and a full measure of sexual self expression, for most of us, requires at least one other human being that you can trust and that you want to share your sexual expression with, that also trust you and in return wants you sexually too. For some of us sexual self expression and fulfillment may include the desire to be sexually active with more than one person and in some cases include a desire for more than one gender. Swinging and the ever expanding category of people that are included within the community, perhaps, make the potential for sexual fulfillment more available. So how do you feel about balancing the joy of freely expressing your sexuality and the need to self protect in a world where not everyone understands boundaries? Can we agree that person to person, couple to couple, or members within a play group, involved in any actual in the flesh connections, that may include sex, that can and are happening within the community, in the vast majority of instances, only include people with an established attraction, and an certain level of established trust? People can only cross physical boundaries, if and when, they are near enough to the person with the boundaries, they are either invited, or not invited to cross. In the digital world, visual expressions and written displays of our sexuality, and some among us are overtly sexual, are kind of like a message in a bottle, flung to the tide. No matter how much detail you include in the messaging, anyone, walking along the beach might and will read it. If they get a little or even considerable pleasure from the message, so be it, no harm done. If they know they are not your target market or recognize that you are not what they're looking for, no harm done, so long as everyone remains respectful and understands the concept of consensual. Understanding messaging, when direct, or subtle, is perhaps a key that opens doors, that lead to other doors, that lead to places within us and in others, we want to have visited, but not by just anyone. Lelu, the Fifth Element, played by Milla Jovovich, in the movie of the same name, at one point in the movie, tells Corbin Dallas, played by Bruce Willis, "Not without my permission". Lelu, in just so many words, tells Dallas volumes about, who she is, and at that moment how she sees him, and that possibilities may exist, but are always consensual. As is the case, with Lelu and Dallas, we all send out messages, subtle and not so subtle, about our desires and our sexuality. We all open doors within us to people that discover the key and some doors are really not so hard to enter, whereas, others are. Perhaps, one sure way to close a lot of doors, is to behave like some construction worker cat calling "come on baby, you know you want it" to a attractive woman, walking down the street, as if her dressing sexy and revealing, for whoever she is heading to see, or just so that she might send a subtle message about desire and mood, entitles anyone to anything more than a respectful visual acknowledgement of her beauty. A subtle, respectful acknowledgment, with no expectations, and no pressure, such as a smile and a nod may, perhaps, begin something. Banging on her door, and taking verbal liberties, without an invitation, is more than kind of creepy. Perhaps, not to understand that, it's creepy, is even creepier. Slut shaming and taking liberties at any level, even within the lifestyle community, remains kind of creepy. Should swingers let their fear of the creepy sort inhibit their outward expressions, like an attractive woman, might decide to go out of her way to avoid the ignorant, uninvited comments made by a few workers without a clue and consequently without a hope or a prayer, to have anything consensual with a woman like her? Is reading, remembering and respecting signals when sent, perhaps paramount toward the development of all sorts of relationships, including swing relationships?

Are we really as judgmental as vanilla people? - - It strikes me that, [i][b]in general[/b][/i], people fall into one of two groups: A. Those interested in the total social experience the lifestyle offers (multi-faceted). B. Those interested primarily in sex (very goal-specific). The number of people in group B is considerable. 'B' folks are much more likely to hold appearance and physical desirability as the only criteria for evaluating playmates. 'A' folks are more interested in the total package. I don't think it's necessarily right to fault those in group B for their limited interest in people beyond their sexual skills and desirability. How they conduct themselves is another story, however. Immaturity has been mentioned. Selfishness and poor social skills also surely come into play. Society in general continues to become more and more hooked on instant gratification, leaving little room for concern for others. This issue is reflective of society in general. Those in the lifestyle are, in fact, just a microcosm of the bigger picture, as previously pointed out. Does anyone really think swingers are any different? If anything, they are a subgroup [i][b]even more[/b][/i] into instant gratification and seeking only specifically what they want.

Bashing - Isn't it sad !!! - [quote=CPLINTOOELE]Well Psyche not the point I was making here I can take a good joke and fun play .. I was just saying why even respond to something if you are not interested in it ?? and your only purpose is to down the persons with the idea or question.. yes fun I understand but rude ass comments I don't ... [/quote]Do you have a recent example, CPLINTOOELE? Otherwise I guess ya may have missed MY point, which is usually the most important one. [em]Emo_17[/em] Your last post, the one that people seemed to be jumping on, was a booty call posted in the forum. There are 35 Booty Calls (in my area) right now. Can you imagine if all those people just kept re-posting their booty calls every day in the FORUM area? Nothing would be on the front page of the forum except for booty calls. How 'bout if the party groups, "Perfect" or "Swingers Circle" always posted their party announcements on the FORUM instead of in the Events section where they belong? Same difference, there'd be no Fun discussions left on the forum, only Event announcements (and booty calls). There's an organization to this place and if you use it where possible it just makes it easier and more enjoyable for other folks trying to navigate the site. Apparently you've used the Forum repeatedly for what is essentially a booty call and a few folks have gotten annoyed. It's understandable, I hope. And, If you REALLY want to advertise your desire to get laid during the daytime, just get in your bikini and stand on the corner of 25th and Wall in Ogden with a cardboard sign dangling from your neck that says, "Cheap Floozy for rent, 25 cents." Seems to work for me!! [em]Emo_54[/em]