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Todd's Tips for Single Males - This should be incorporated into this site! - We have decided that some of these single guys that send friend request and e-mails with their phone numbers are new to a swingers site and just do not realize that anyone that has had a profile for some time has received several similar request each and everyday. We have most recently put a form letter in our letter file we send out when we get these request. We hope it helps them and it is better than just getting upset. Some of these guys must be good guys. It reads as follows:
[quote]Hi there,
As it states twice in our profile our agreement as a couple on single men is as follows:
"Single men unfortunately, because the bad apples have done such a good job of poisoning the water we would prefer that you not contact us. We only play with single men that we either already know, or that have good recommendations from our friends and that Mrs. Delicious has expressed a desire to meet. If she is not really impressed really early on it just won't happen. Married men playing without their wife, with or without permission need not apply."
If we should ever meet a guy, by chance, at a meet and greet, and Mrs. Delicious is intrigued, or a friend we already know sings his praises and highly recommends him that might change. Otherwise we stick with our agreement as a couple in regards to single men. Therefore we do not block all single men collectively but we might block a male individually. We do not like doing that.
You should really think about read profiles before you send these e-mails or a friend request. You obviously did not read ours. That is one of the most common complaints we have had with the hoards of single men that approach us. What you are doing, in the minds of the two of us and some swinging couples we know, makes you appear to be a spammer and therefore you fall even farther back on the list of potential playmates we will consider. Imagine you are getting 5 to 10 e-mails or friend request everyday just like the one you sent us from people that did not read your profile. If they had read your profile they would have known not to contact you. If you can visualize that as it might apply to you personally, you might get an idea of how we feel and how you might be viewed by any couple, like us that has had that same experience since establishing a profile. You possibly had not thought about that. You probably are a really great guy and so we ask you to respect our wishes and not contact us. Good luck in your endeavors, and we mean that sincerely, We hope you have success, joy, fun and some sex, but you should not waste your time barking up our tree. Best of luck!
Mrs. and Mr. Delicious
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Which Motorcycle Survey? - In the market and want your opinion... - Oh, I have strong thoughts on this subject folks. And I am really doing my homework and shopping very thoroughly. I'm taking my time because I won't be buying until Feb/Mar at the earliest. And I've been watching the Can-Am develop over the past 3 years now. One of our nearby dealers carries them alongside Big Dog Choppers and Suzuki. Interesting line-up.
It's not that what others think will make my decision or unduely influence it, but I am interested in reading others' opinions and thoughts to compare to my own. And I'm checking with a few different demographic groups. Let's face it: swingers tend to march to the beat of their own drum more than most folks! LOL
I brought up the "cool factor" and image stuff in the context of what our own perceptions are of bike culture. I mentioned that we are cruiser types, not crotch-rocket people. I wear western style riding boots and a black leather jacket. But my jacket has armor inserts, all the modern upgrades, and even reflective piping on a traditional cruiser jacket frame. I wear a Bell military-style open face helmet and goggles. My wife rides a blacked out (Raven) 2011 Star Stryker. So we sort of blend the old w/the new a bit. I guess I'm hesitant about the style change.
Thanks for the input and please keep it coming. You're helping me cogitate. LOL
Swingle males. What's in it for you? - - Okay Mrs. Delicious, who is not much into the forums, tells me that in our case, it is not the husband who is more likely to have a problem with a single guy but the "she" side ,the "wife" and that in her opinion that may be true with more couples than some single guys might recognize because as is the case with the two of us the wife leaves it to the husband to deliver the bad news. So I suggest that if we change that trend and that the "wives" straight out tell the single guys thy are not attracted to that "hey I am just not into you" that maybe some of the perception that there is a conspiracy against them may diminish. Seriously, if a swinger couple plays with some single guys and will not play with others as many, many, many swinger couples do then they are not rejecting a whole class of swingers. Rejection is delivered on a case by case basis. Who do you think is mostly making that decision?
What Percentage Swinger Are You? - Maybe this is interesting - Pretty small. Some would probably consider us semi-retired or maybe even posers. We've been in the lifestyle for a long time and have pretty much fulfilled all or most of our fantasies so now we're sort of opportunistic swingers. We like to socialize a bit and if the mood stikes us or we meet a particularly enticing person or couple we go for it. If not we go home and have amazing sex with each other. :-)
How did you start the lifestyle? - - Mine started before his did. I for some reason have a vibe girls like. Even though I was straight at the time girls just liked me for some odd reason to me. My first girl is Morgan and I met her at a club one day when dancing. She instantly wanted my friendship soooo I thought but as the friendship rolled on she would tell me she loved girls. I just did not think it was me as I was no where near being a lesbian or like women in that way.
A few months into our freindship I met Josh and we clicked like magic. He was sexy as could be. I just love tht man to peices.
Now know that Morgan was also married to a man at the time and has 3 kids like I do. So when i met Josh she somewhat loved that we were three. She soon left her husband and dated another guy. Who thought Morgan liked my husband and its always been thta she liked me. So they broke up and she moved in with us. During this time we had lots of girls come play and I soon realized you did not have to be lesbian to please a girl and can still remain friends too.
Josh loved that women liked me that way why wouldnt a man not like that lol. So we expanded to more girls and had Morgan play too.
About 6 months later we were full swingers with women. We decided to start looking for couples as it seemed hard to find a pair who would play. We looked on Craigs list and found just single boys or lots of red flags.
We went to club edge often which also Utah Uncensored would host sex parties and we fell in love with all the sexual people who came to them.
WE were told to go to swingular and have had a wonderful time since.
Josh and I have been together for almost 4 years and got married in April of 2010. We have never looked back and just keep going. We have enjoyed meeting playmates and new friends on here. We finally found were we like to be socially and love it completely!!!
We have not played with anyone but our friends here and there and then coming here has opened the door to enormous possiblities and we have had soooooo many fantasies come true can not wait for more!!!
sara n josh
What really defines a TRUE swinger? - - [quote=CHLOE468]""Most single males don't know the meaning of "NO" and are just like stray dogs in heat that just keep coming back no matter how many times you hit them with a newspaper. Bad dog. Go away!!!"" Wow......most of the men I have had to 'swat' away with the newspaper are the married swingers whose wives get all the cock they want...but they are left with nothing. I consider myself a happy swinger...I enjoy sex but also known my limitations and respect others no matter what. Guess a happy swinging Adult..???[/quote]
The same experience here, been saying it for years...
Are there single males who fit the mold? Of course, however, they don't last long before being banned.
Are there married males who fit the mold? FAR more than single one.
Are there single women who fit the mold? Of course, but far more rare.
As far as who's a swinger? Anyone who wants to be....It is a state of mind, not a marital status.
Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - Being that we are in the older bracket, I would say that yes age can be a factor. It depends on the individuals involved, but many times people put upper limits on play partners and anyone over that age is a null factor. There are several women on this site over the age of 50 who may make some couples rethink their age limit or make an exception for them. Weare very active in the club scene here in NC and people know us and age doesn't seem to be much of a factor. I don't think that staying in ones own age bracket is the thing so much as the perception that older people are over the hill both in looks and performance. Just remember if you get too old to cut the mustard, you're never too old to lick the jar it came in.
On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - Mavenx, if it were in Wendover; we could go mountain biking out there. I'm not much for casinos (except for the buffets) but Wendover has some good mountain biking.
Do your friends and family know about your lifestyle? - - Well... does our families know?
12 years ago Kelly and I went to our first swingers party. I was nervous and it was made worse by seeing my mothers boyfirend there with his wife. No my mother did not know he was married. Am I going to go tell on this asshole..... no. He told on me!! My mother came alll the way into to Salt Lake (which she has only done 3 times in the 13 years I have lived in Salt Lake) to give me a rash of shit over it and explained that was the reason her and my dad got a divorce (I assume he wanted to do it and she didn't). She said the Kelly and I were going to end up the same way. I of course told her it was a one time thing and we didn't plan on ever going to another party. I know how very small this world is, and it is very small, I like to think that I have kept it secret enough that the only people who knew were fellow swingers and the ones I have elected to tell.
Do my friends know?
Well I have a good friend who I have told yes.... but the operative word being GOOD friend... and her and her hubby have decided to give it a try. See if they like the extra spice. In a snese if I tell someone I end up promoting the lifestyle.... but it is very few that I have told.
Do co-workers know?
I say only the sexy guys at my job know.... and I mean the really sexy guys... with the brown eyes and brown hair and mustache and goatee and a dick that knows how to pleasure me.
Swingers Club - Swingers Club - Hey KOI. Looks like you might have a not so silent partner in your little venture. ;-)
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